Custom Union

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If as it looks likely the U.K. will be in some form of custom Union, what should us leave voters do?

Would it be better to stay as we are ?
Go on a protest march ( hasn’t helped remain )
Make the conservatives suffer at the next GE,
Or has anyone else got any suggestions ( no not you remainers, with just get on with it was a waste of time anyway etc etc)

Really, after the Referendum there should have been another one to ask, which of the Leave options was preferable. We didn't get that, we got Theresa May trying to appease her rabid right wing.

Theresa May might have voted Remain, but I get the impression that she didn't have any strong opinions either way, much like most of the population!

Being in the Customs Union is not incompatible with being outside the EU, so I don't see why any Leaver has a problem.

It is incompatible with being 'free' from the EU because it involves paying for access, abiding by their rules, having restrictions on external trade deals and likely retaining FOM.

Binary Referendums should be restricted to issues where there can only be a yes, no answer - e.g. back in the 1960s Wales had a Referendum on whether Counties should remain dry on Sundays. Either the pubs opened or they didn't - no half way house.

Or something like, 'do we have a new flag?' I I think NZ did this - offered a choice of three new designs or keep the current one.

Worked quite well for the Labour Party at the last GE!!
I'm not a Labour supporter, but I certainly don't recall them offering huge sums of money and a 3-day week to anyone. If you're going to comment, why not make a stab at accuracy?

twofngers you can't argue with the logic of someone who gets all their information from the Daily Mail

I'm not a Labour supporter, but I certainly don't recall them offering huge sums of money and a 3-day week to anyone. If you're going to comment, why not make a stab at accuracy?

No similarity then to wiping off student loans with no credible explanation as to where the money for that was coming from?

No similarity then to wiping off student loans with no credible explanation as to where the money for that was coming from?

No, there is no similarity to what you originally said.

TBH, if you think Brexit is affordable there must be endless magic money trees growing at Downing Street.

Actually, thinking about it, that might be the solution to the whole thing; if the Daily Mail ran a headline saying 'WE'VE LEFT THE EU' (in capital letters, obviously) that would probably be enough for Leavers like user given they've absolutely no idea what leaving entails anyway!

Okay then

bearbehind That is something I agree with you on, it shouldn’t have gone to the general public, because it was very obvious leave was going to win,
If your boss offered you a10% pay rise would you accept it or try and work out how the company was going to afford it, or would you think thanks boss they must know what they are doing. Shouldn’t the government consider the implications of the vote before giving the public the vote ?

Since we are leaving ( maybe) what would be the best outcome for you, And don’t say not leaving as we just go around in circles

I am amassed at the amount of remainers that seem to read the Daily Mail, they know every headline and what’s inside the pages, I often wonder who reads that rubbish

it shouldn’t have gone to the general public, because it was very obvious leave was going to win

You really are talking nonsense now

annandale I like your analogy, but up until the ref we had to always eat at that restaurant, because the previous generation had voted that this is the restaurant to join, over the years the restaurant changed from its original design and kept buying buildings next door and got too big, a lot of people didn’t like eating at that restaurant anymore for various reasons, they kept complaining but nobody took any notice, so when the first chance came up decided to move restaurants, time will tell if that restaurant will be any good,

Maybe those of us who voted Remain should just shut up because our views are not valid anymore. You only count if you voted Leave. Things really have come to a pretty pass.

bearbehind If the government didn’t want or expect a leave win they shouldn’t of gone to the public vote as it was obvious leave was going to win, I was surprised it was that tight

gussyfinknottle Your views are valid, apart from staying( for a minute leave that behind) what would be the best outcome for you going forward, we are all going to have to compromise, you want to stay, more people want to leave, something has got to give or we have to compromise

The government believed remain would win. I expect one of the reasons for this was that given there was no implementation plan, they probably thought 'The public won't vote for something so major when there's no plan, would they?'
But 37% of the population did just that.

bearbehind Why am I talking nonsense, I’m trying to say if there had been no referendum, the people that wanted to leave would still now ( as your are) be unhappy, but would be getting on with their lives and still grumbling, but they were given the vote and voted and as you and others say it shouldn’t have gone to the public and surprisingly I agree with you

twofingerstoEverything How would the public know there was no plan, we are not privy to that sort of information, the secret workings of THOC, You keep throwing that 37% about, it is still more than voted to remain, the rest I presume were indifferent either way, if they felt as strongly as you they should have voted, perhaps you should be angry at the no voters
Why didn’t the government expect the leave vote to win, they had not been listening to the people in the street, they were aware of the rise of UKIP

If your boss offered you a10% pay rise would you accept it or try and work out how the company was going to afford it, or would you think thanks boss they must know what they are doing.

But how would you feel, if you said yes please to the 10% pay rise and then next month the boss came along and said that there would have to be compulsory redundancies and you were likely to be one of them? Pretty cheesed off, I would imagine.

Why shouldn't the public have had sight of a plan? The Scottish Independence Referendum produced a plan - whether it was reasonable or not, it did give people a good starting point for debating the issues.

How would the public know there was no plan, we are not privy to that sort of information, the secret workings of THOC
If you mean The House of Commons, you do realise that Hansard provides an edited, verbatim report of everything disussed in the House? What 'secret workings' are you referring to?
You keep throwing that 37% about
...erm. I do? Where?
you should be angry at the no voters
I am. I'm also angry that Commonwealth citizens were allowed to vote, while UK residents from the EU couldn't, and that younger people, who would be most affected by this, weren't allowed to vote, or UK citizens who had lived abroad for more than 15 years. I am angry at Southern Rail for being so shit that several friends of mine couldn't vote because their journey home (in torrential rain that day) took almost five hours instead of the usual one, but most of all I'm angry that people like you thought it would all be so simple when common sense should have told you it would be a messy, expensive shambles.

Peregrina I wouldn’t feel good, but that is the boss’s fault surely he didn’t have to give you a pay rise, let’s be honest 100% of people accept a pay rise without worrying if the company can afford it

user there are a Leavers who voted for a specific reason, usually immigration and genuinely don't give a shit what the repercussions are.

Whilst I disagree with them, at least they're honest.

You're the worst kind of Leaver in my opinion; you are taking absolutely no ownership for your choice and looking for places to lay your blame for it not being easily solved.

That's disgraceful.