Leavers Lagoon - all systems are go. all lights are green

[surferjet]

Good news yesterday < gets out green highlighter >
Still work to be done but it’s another step in the right direction.

Ps: completely given up on the Brexit Arms as it’s been taken over by remainers.
This is our chilled out place to post on in the run up to March 2019.

Positive people only

Surferjet, that's the same Nigel Farage who was on the fishing committee at the EP and never turned up, yes?

Misti as Gary Lineker said: That's hakenews

But, yes, the very same Farage. What a hypocrite.

Team Remain? Wtf is that? The only person who benefits from a divided Britain and an undermined EU is Putin's Russia.
I used to live there. This is classic foreign policy. And, weirdly, it appears to be working.
No, I don't think we should all share the same view to keep Russia at bay. That would be a stupid idea. We are a democracy and disagreements are a wonderful part of that. However, those stoking division (this notion of Team Remain, ffs) need to be mindful of whose interests it serves.

And the fishing industry accounts for 0.05% of GDP, or comparatively, the equivalent of the productivity of one Nissan plant in the UK.

And the UK fishing industry that sold its own UK licences to EU operators.

And the UK fishing industry that realises, now, that it sells a significant proportion of the catch not eaten/wanted in the UK in other EU member states. That would be products that would have a limited 'shelf life' subject to Customs checks if exported to the EU once we have left.

@twofingerstoEverything - so much easier to painstakingly try to pick my posts apart than simply apologising to Surfer for berating her use of the umbrella term 'mental' (about a post directed at her, regarding her mental & emotional stability).

Crack on love.

Strawmen are clearly your pals.

Hakenews . Nearly wet myself with that one.

We don't eat enough fish. The extra could be frozen and or made into food we can eat at a cheaper cost as more caught cost per fish will go down..

"Person obsessed with staying in a union". You do know our country is a union? This vote has screwed things up for peace in part of that Union. And goes against the vote in two members of that Union.

Well we may have to eat that fish/crustacean catch. But at present the UK consumer chooses not to.

Why do you think the fish quotas are in place? More fish caught is a short term approach that may result in a drop in fish prices, as you suggest, but at what long term consequences?

If we don't eat a lot of fish in this country (I do fwiw), that is the market talking.

We don’t eat much fish that’s true.
I wonder why that is? We are an island after all.

Yes we are an island but we also have a land border with the EU. I know that many people don't want to think about that. Hence the vote.

mummmy do you honestly think people are going to change their eating habits because Brexit wants them too?

I don't doubt that tastes could be encouraged to change. At one time we didn't eat 'foreign muck' like spaghetti or tikka masala and now we do. Calamari sounds much pleasanter than squid, not that it tastes better in my book - it still tastes like fried rings of rubber.

Why is the situation of the fishing industry being hailed as a reason for leaving the EU even though leaving will result in a far greater loss of productivity in industries that contribute far in excess of 0.05% to UK GDP?

I am talking about the fish they throw back....
No extra cost but extra profit...
We don't eat fish due to price, not that we dislike fish.

And how much do they throw back, and why?

Who says we don't eat fish due to price? The fish/crustaceans caught and sold to the EU member states is because there is no market in the UK not because of price.

And why does the UK fishing industry trump other more productive UK industries that will be adversely affected by leaving the EU?

Will the car workers (as per Patrick Minford and pals report) have to relocate to UK fishing ports and retrain?

Perhaps the car workers will go an pick fruit, or go and work in the hospitality industry? The trouble is both are predominantly summer work, what can we find for them to do in the winter?

Eh? What fish they throw back?

Surely they could do something with that now if it were commercially viable.

What an odd comment.

I don't eat fish due to the price. Fish ands chips is £6 a meal. No longer a chip food.
There are loads of reports about how much has to be chucked away due to EU quote of one fish so the rest of the catch has to be ditched not used.......

most of the UK catch is herring and mackerel - which we export to the EU, whereas we prefer to eat cod, haddock etc. a lot of which is imported from Denmark, Iceland & Norway. The cost of a fish supper post Brexit will therefore probably rise as we pay tariffs on the imports.

Which part of 'we will still have to adhere to EU rules' are you missing mummmy?

We don't eat fish due to price, not that we dislike fish.

I'm slightly repeating Ifailed here, but there is plenty of cheap fish available in the UK – coley, mackerel, sardines –that people just don't buy or eat that much of. We don't have to only eat the expensive things like bass and cod.

Bear you lost me. Your logic again.
If you have a quota for one fish you have to Chuck the other fish back. DEAD...
Your are not allowed to sort and sell your whole catch.
If we don't have boats to catch cod, maybe it's because they were priced out of the market. New rules soon....