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So.....how are we all?

Mummy, there are health and safety implications for under 18's in the workplace. The hours school kids could work is also limited. It is not going to fill the void left by migrant workers. I see the reality not the brexit fantasy.

Corcory, I'll let you break the news to those that campaigned for less immigration, that you intend to invite migration from not only EU countries but beyond.

Seems to be abit of confusion amongst Brexiteers about who will pick the strawberries - British school kids or Non EU foreigners?

Ghost - Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme - read our own article!!!!

We need to be selective with immigration. Only have the workers we actually need. not the ready made plumbers etc. so industry doesn't have to bother training up local talent.

I still remember the fruit farm at the end of our road knocking on the doors and asking if we wanted £1 an hour to come and pick fruit as they had a bigger order that needed to go by 1 in the afternoon, 10 children turned up, and we picked a field dry of berries, 4 hours and £4 later we all went to town and the pictures and a burger.
If kids miss out on things like this isn't it a sad state of affairs, it was a right of passage that you were old enough to go and do this job. Seasonal summer work isn't a bad thing to let your children do to earn under £100 a week, it's not a job a working person would want and yet there are 1000's of jobs like this that students do and are very grateful for having.
The good life, oh you mean a child working for some spends, instead of sat staring at the phone.

Strawberry pickers - yes! Qualified plumbers - no!

but, but, but British jobs for British workers! Take back control! Does Brexit Britain feel like a welcoming place for migrants? Applications for nurses from the EU are already down! Would the chance to pick fruit instead sway them?

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/12/96-drop-in-eu-nurses-registering-to-work-in-britain-since-brexit-vote

Also they don't have to be non EU or school children - students used to do these seasonal jobs. As far as employing children is concerned. I have employed children in my retailing business. I have always employed over 16s and only employ them for longer hours in the holidays.

Oh yes good old ELF and Safety, with rules on everything including picking your nose.
Did you know a gardener of 50 years got the sack, as he didn't have the qualifications for mowing the lawn he had moaned for 50 years.. TRUE
Common Sense isn't as bad as you think, cos the idiots only get to do it once.

Here's an idea.. lets train some nurses, rather than buy them in.
You don't need a degree to wipe a nose, or give bed bath.

Ah yes lets overlook the welfare and safety of employees.

Ah yes lets overlook the welfare and safety of employees.
Did you know there is actually a H&S paper on how to wipe your arse.

Just because something happens doesn't mean you need a how to for people to be safe. How big is your H&S manual to use your own home?

Here's an idea.. lets train some nurses, rather than buy them in.

Brilliant idea! Lets cut bursaries and make nursing a more unattractive profession for British students! Fucking inspired!

Nursing degree applications slump after NHS bursaries abolished

www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/02/nursing-degree-applications-slump-after-nhs-bursaries-abolished

Ah yes lets overlook the welfare and safety of employees.
Did you know there is actually a H&S paper on how to wipe your arse.

Just because something happens doesn't mean you need a how to for people to be safe. How big is your H&S manual to use your own home?

Just because something happens doesn't mean you need a how to for people to be safe. How big is your H&S manual to use your own home?

I'm responsible my own safety at home. Employers are responsible for providing safe workplaces for staff. Say, if we cut H&S regulations how tempting do you think it would be for unscrupulous employers to cut corners, save money by not providing adequate training or safety equipment?

My teenagers struggled to find work until they turned 16. They were keen from 14 upwards to earn their own cash but there wasn't many, if any opportunities.

I babysat for a family (3 kids) from the age of 14. I was paid a measly £1 an hour. They were high functioning alcoholics though so I worked 5 sometimes 6 nights a week which helped the cash stack up.

Why do you need a degree in the first place.
Nurses used to go onto a ward and be trained by a matron, to do general nursing, the older nurses who had more training used to do the harder jobs, and the senor nurses would help the Doctors.
If training was needed it was done on the job, or training days.
If you wanted to specialize you were then trained up in that section.
Your pay went up the more you learnt and some nurses never progressed as they were happy where they were.
Now they go to uni and get a grant and spend less time on a ward than in a hospital.
I think this may be called on the job training.

I'm responsible my own safety at home
So are you saying your more stupid at work?

Because nursing is a profession and requires the relevant academic qualifications to be recognised as such.

Fully appreciate that Brexit is about dumbing down though. Perhaps we could get nurses to pick fruit during their lunch breaks?

isn't over regulation just as bad as under regulation?

So are you saying your more stupid at work?

No. Are you saying only stupid people have accidents?

Why would you make a nurse pick fruit, when you don't have enough nurses?

Not every aspect of nursing means you need to have a degree.
If it bothers you so much don't call them a nurse. call them a nursling.

I really want the government to rethink the bursaries situation for nurses. It can't be right to penalize UK student nurses only to employ others from other countries and agency nurses at huge cost.
I want to see fewer employers like Sports direct who exploit foreign workers who don't understand the employment standards expected here getting away with their current pattern of employment.

In agriculture more and more mechanisation is being invented so there will be less and less need for so many workers in these fields.

isn't over regulation just as bad as under regulation?

If accidents are still happening in workplaces how can they be over regulated? Regulation is there to safeguard workers and the public.

www.healthandsafetyatwork.com/listing/news-and-prosecutions

But isn't a lot of H&S aimed at the level of a stupid person.
Basic observations that once read and confirmed you have understood should be then take for read, that someone has to do this.