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Westminstenders: The Continuing Saga of the Prime Minister Who Didn’t Know When to Quit

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RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 21:03

As the dust begins to settle after the drama of a result no one really thought would happen though many hoped, we start to wonder what else will happen.

Initially it looked like the best possible result. The trouble is May has decided true to form to be a pain in the backside and not know when to quit. Her trade mark management style to crash forward in a straight through obstacles, taking everything that gets in her way in the process, rather than taking the more sensible and less hazardous route. She has had a nasty habit of come hurdling to an abrupt and painful messy end as she hits an inpenatrable brick wall of law or circumstance.

The idea that she can be moderated in any way is ridiculous, especially if Nick and Fiona survive.

We now have a situation with a minority government and a prime minister with a manifesto full of controversial proposals that will largely be consigned to the bin out of fear of defeat. Her ambitions over human rights are not in the manifesto so an embolden House of Lords will just throw it out without fear – because constitutionally the Salisbury convention only applies to majority governments. She has become a lame duck.

The trouble is that this is a parliament that needs to pass measures because of Brexit. May’s ability to deal with the Great Repeal Act in particular is going to be next to impossible. Certainly with the time already wasted.

May’s insistence that nothing has changed and its business as usual merely adds insult to injury and makes the whole situation worse. It sets her up to fail at some point, but that could well be after she has single handedly lead the country to economic and social disaster. Her lack of understanding of this just shows her up as the poor one trick politician without real leadership skills and vision. It marks her arrogance and lack of respect for those who are her bosses.

She could have acknowledged that the election result was a wholesale rejection of her vision for Brexit and reached out to other parties for a consensus over Brexit she decided to go rushing in bed with the hardline right DUP.

We now have a situation where her loose agreement with the DUP to prop up her government could be in breach of the Good Friday Agreement, further risking instability in that part of the union. It is not only fool hardy, its reckless. Not only that, without a formal agreement in the form of a coalition, such support means the she can not rely on the back up of the Salisbury Convention.

This is also done without irony after vilifying Corbyn for his association with terrorists. It shows a total disregard for the colleagues who the DUP regard as an ‘abomination’ for being gay, especially Ruth Davidson who basically saved her political neck. She really is a political prisoner to their whims and demands. This arrangement with the one that John Major avoided even when he struggled with a minority government because of the problems it would cause. Of course, if you were cynical you might well argue that May wants to break the GFA.

The rest of the party will cowardly let her lurch from crisis to crisis because the like the spine to rid themselves of the problem. Political crisis which involve NI are particularly difficult and particularly risky. May risks constitutional crisis there, with the House of Lords, over our WTO status, with Human Rights of EU and British nationals, a possible no confidence vote and with EU negotiations. That’s just the big ones we can forsee now. Yet she sees herself as the champion of stability in this midst of it all with a staggering lack of self-awareness or brazen disregard. Its like how the GOP tolerate Trump for their Christian agenda, the Hard Brexiteers will tolerate May to get Brexit through in any way they can; though this now opens it up to being even more chaotic unless the liberals stand up to the ever increasing suicide of it. The reality is that the chances of her being able to persuade both the liberal and right wings to agree to the same plan is slim.

The chances of the house of cards simply collapsing and us left with another election are huge.

There is hope. More than a landslide would have brought, but this path is fraught with pitfalls, it is difficult to see May doing anything but charging headlong over a cliff and missing the best way out of this mess. David Davis has admitted that there is now no longer a mandate for hard Brexit and we will need to stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and Greg Clark is summoning business to support the course. There are calls from Sarah Wollaston, Heidi Allen and Yvette Cooper for a cross party approach to key issues. This of course is the last thing that the Wing Nuts – and May - will allow willingly.

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HashiAsLarry · 11/06/2017 18:59

There's environment now.
Gove in charge of giving the farmers what they asked for?

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 19:04

Confirmed. Gove gets loathsom's job

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Tanith · 11/06/2017 19:08

They're getting in line, sharpening their knives, waiting for the supreme moment...

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 19:09

Wasn't his father a fisherman or something?

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IrenetheQuaint · 11/06/2017 19:09

Well, Gove did a reasonable job at Justice - it will be interesting to see how he approaches the complex post-Brexit challenge of farming subsidies.

woman12345 · 11/06/2017 19:12

They're getting in line, sharpening their knives, waiting for the supreme moment...
Gove can practise his sad face for when he does the inevitable to May.
How they can govern and pass legislation will require Crikkety Wikkety's best magic tricks.

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 19:15

@ shippersunbound
Nothing says "I know I've got to bring you back but I really don't want to" like Defra. May grudgingly gives Gove the worst cabinet job.

Gove/Johnson v May as leader?

I might keep May yet...

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BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 19:17

Owen Jones is organising an anti-May/DUP protest in London on the 17th. m.facebook.com/events/290268031384019

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 19:17

Macron's looking like he's going to win 400 out of 577 seats in French parliament. Just to spite May.

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RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 19:19

Michael Gove now responsible for fields of wheat...

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woman12345 · 11/06/2017 19:20

Bigly one in Leeds too on the 12th:
m.facebook.com/events/1994282190817724
12 JUN Leeds Protest: May Must Go - No Coalition of Chaos and Hatred
Public · Event · by Leeds Stand Up To Racism
Tomorrow at 17:30–19:00 Dortmund Square, Leeds

Tanith · 11/06/2017 19:21

Just read a suggestion that Gove got Environment as a tribute to the work he and his wife did in preventing the New Road in Royston Vasey Grin

BirdBandit · 11/06/2017 19:23

Tanith Smile

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 19:23

@ waggers5
At the DfE, Gove tried to remove climate change from the curriculum. Now he's environment secretary.

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RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 19:29

@ kirsty_williams
Gove's appointment does not bode well for post Brexit agri policy that respects and understands devolution.

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Tanith · 11/06/2017 19:40

You have to wonder what on earth the farmers have done to deserve Paterson, Truss, Leadsom and now Gove!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 11/06/2017 19:41
Grin

Tom Wilson @feedthedrummer
MICHAEL GOVE IS NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR FIELDS OF WHEAT.

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 19:52

Given agriculture is one of the biggest issues for NI Gove getting it is a double slap in the face for some.

It does suggest Murdoch isnt giving up. He wants Gove/Johnson in. I suspect thats not what Tory MPs want and unless they can agree on someone else. Which is why I suspect May might just limp on.

Leadsom as leader of the house is a poor appointment though. It's jeapardises the Tories and puts them at risk of it all falling apart and sparking election.

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borntobequiet · 11/06/2017 19:57

Gove on climate change in education.

Read to the bottom: political or ideological...

www.conservativehome.com/leftwatch/2014/04/climate-change-on-the-curriculum-education-or-brainwashing.html

NancyWake · 11/06/2017 20:01

Yes, when Gove was education secretary he tried to remove climate change from the national geography curriculum, he was overruled.

www.theguardian.com/education/2013/jul/05/michael-gove-climate-change-geography-curriculum

Previously he had described himself as a 'shy green' but in office he

"voted in favour of badger culling and the privatisation of UK forests, and voted against the Green Investment Bank acting to support the UK’s emissions targets" according to "They Work For You":

energydesk.greenpeace.org/2016/07/06/may-gove-leadsom-brexit-conservatives-climate-energy-funding/

IrenetheQuaint · 11/06/2017 20:01

"It's jeapardises the Tories and puts them at risk of it all falling apart and sparking election."

To be fair, this was already quite a serious risk Grin

I know I'm ignorant, but what exactly does the Leader of the House do? Is the role basically just making the trains run on time or is there more to it than that?

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 20:05

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-regulations-michael-gove-environment-drugs-a7649041.html

Bye bye British wildlife. Gove's coming

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RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 20:07

It's what appears before parliament. So deciding what bills are presented. In this case ensuring they will pass before timetabled.

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IrenetheQuaint · 11/06/2017 20:08

Thanks RTB. Bit of a high-wire act in this government, then!

flippinada · 11/06/2017 20:09

I find myself utterly, underwhelmed by the cabinet reshuffle. With bought Gove back in that speaks volumes about who's really in charge.

Apols if it's already been mentioned upthread but did anyone see Alastair Campbell's interview on BBC Breakfast upthread? If so, very interested to know what folk thought.

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