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Westminstenders: The Continuing Saga of the Prime Minister Who Didn’t Know When to Quit

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RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 21:03

As the dust begins to settle after the drama of a result no one really thought would happen though many hoped, we start to wonder what else will happen.

Initially it looked like the best possible result. The trouble is May has decided true to form to be a pain in the backside and not know when to quit. Her trade mark management style to crash forward in a straight through obstacles, taking everything that gets in her way in the process, rather than taking the more sensible and less hazardous route. She has had a nasty habit of come hurdling to an abrupt and painful messy end as she hits an inpenatrable brick wall of law or circumstance.

The idea that she can be moderated in any way is ridiculous, especially if Nick and Fiona survive.

We now have a situation with a minority government and a prime minister with a manifesto full of controversial proposals that will largely be consigned to the bin out of fear of defeat. Her ambitions over human rights are not in the manifesto so an embolden House of Lords will just throw it out without fear – because constitutionally the Salisbury convention only applies to majority governments. She has become a lame duck.

The trouble is that this is a parliament that needs to pass measures because of Brexit. May’s ability to deal with the Great Repeal Act in particular is going to be next to impossible. Certainly with the time already wasted.

May’s insistence that nothing has changed and its business as usual merely adds insult to injury and makes the whole situation worse. It sets her up to fail at some point, but that could well be after she has single handedly lead the country to economic and social disaster. Her lack of understanding of this just shows her up as the poor one trick politician without real leadership skills and vision. It marks her arrogance and lack of respect for those who are her bosses.

She could have acknowledged that the election result was a wholesale rejection of her vision for Brexit and reached out to other parties for a consensus over Brexit she decided to go rushing in bed with the hardline right DUP.

We now have a situation where her loose agreement with the DUP to prop up her government could be in breach of the Good Friday Agreement, further risking instability in that part of the union. It is not only fool hardy, its reckless. Not only that, without a formal agreement in the form of a coalition, such support means the she can not rely on the back up of the Salisbury Convention.

This is also done without irony after vilifying Corbyn for his association with terrorists. It shows a total disregard for the colleagues who the DUP regard as an ‘abomination’ for being gay, especially Ruth Davidson who basically saved her political neck. She really is a political prisoner to their whims and demands. This arrangement with the one that John Major avoided even when he struggled with a minority government because of the problems it would cause. Of course, if you were cynical you might well argue that May wants to break the GFA.

The rest of the party will cowardly let her lurch from crisis to crisis because the like the spine to rid themselves of the problem. Political crisis which involve NI are particularly difficult and particularly risky. May risks constitutional crisis there, with the House of Lords, over our WTO status, with Human Rights of EU and British nationals, a possible no confidence vote and with EU negotiations. That’s just the big ones we can forsee now. Yet she sees herself as the champion of stability in this midst of it all with a staggering lack of self-awareness or brazen disregard. Its like how the GOP tolerate Trump for their Christian agenda, the Hard Brexiteers will tolerate May to get Brexit through in any way they can; though this now opens it up to being even more chaotic unless the liberals stand up to the ever increasing suicide of it. The reality is that the chances of her being able to persuade both the liberal and right wings to agree to the same plan is slim.

The chances of the house of cards simply collapsing and us left with another election are huge.

There is hope. More than a landslide would have brought, but this path is fraught with pitfalls, it is difficult to see May doing anything but charging headlong over a cliff and missing the best way out of this mess. David Davis has admitted that there is now no longer a mandate for hard Brexit and we will need to stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and Greg Clark is summoning business to support the course. There are calls from Sarah Wollaston, Heidi Allen and Yvette Cooper for a cross party approach to key issues. This of course is the last thing that the Wing Nuts – and May - will allow willingly.

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 11/06/2017 17:06

Cunt keeps health

Actually thinking about it thats probably a good thing what with another election before christmas, thats how I'm reading it anyway Grin

boldlygoingsomewhere · 11/06/2017 17:08

Shock Can't believe Hunt is keeping health. Are they absolutely delusional? Do they not realise how much he is hated? It's a big two fingers up to electorate who care about the NHS.

annandale · 11/06/2017 17:08

Red: stuff May has done well - maybe the Modern Slavery Act? I don't know what it is like in practice. Also she is not bad at promoting women, at least compared to her predecessors various.

annandale · 11/06/2017 17:10

Hunt keeps health?? What??

Why on earth is she having a reshuffle at all? Why not just turn her timesaver or whatever that thing in Harry Potter was and say 'I'm reappointing everyone to the same job'?

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 17:11

I am not even a little bit surprised at Hunt keeping health. May and her gang are absolutely refusing to admit that anything has changed. They will carry on marching ever forward into the abyss.

lalalonglegs · 11/06/2017 17:11

It's beyond shit that Hunt is staying at Healthy but, at the moment, TM can't afford to sack anyone who matters, not even Larry the Cat.

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 17:13

Can you imagine the uproar if she sacked the cat Shock Wink

OlennasWimple · 11/06/2017 17:14

If I were JC I would be doing nothing in public right now, but I'd be shuffling names around on my Cabinet Assembly Board to see what changes I can sensibly make to retain the hard left support that put me in power, bring in the talented centrists who are willing to serve, and ensure a good match up with the emerging TM Cabinet.

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 17:17

I think this might be the least shuffling cabinet reshuffle in history. Hmm

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 17:24

Bet Loathsom ends up standing.

Grayling is staying put at Transport.

No Gove. Yet.

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lalalonglegs · 11/06/2017 17:25

JC would do well to mix his cabinet up a little - he has surrounded himself with his London cronies. Dianne Abbott's ill health gives him the perfect excuse to install, say, Yvette Cooper as shadow home secretary.

NancyWake · 11/06/2017 17:25

There would have been cheers if the cat had got health.

SapphireStrange · 11/06/2017 17:25

Yvette Cooper as shadow home secretary

I would LOVE that. I think she's fantastic.

woman12345 · 11/06/2017 17:26

They will carry on marching ever forward into the abyss
Hunt is great for labour. Trump visit is useful too. Weather's nice too. Smile

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 17:27

Staying I mean.

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RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 17:30

Daphne Romney QC‏*@DaphneRomneyQC*

Our new Lord Chancellor voted against the introduction of caste discrimination and in favour of abolishing the Human Rights Act. #reshuffle

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Gettingthere7 · 11/06/2017 17:32

Thats the end of the NHS as we know it folks. 11th June 2017, remember where you were. Our children's children will hold us accountable for this. This will be our legacy. It won't recover from the damage that is coming.

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 17:37

www.ft.com/content/5271e7f8-4b86-11e7-a3f4-c742b9791d43

Foreign money laundering inquiries to UK leap 12%
London’s financial and property sectors favoured by kleptocrats and corrupt officials

Inquiries from overseas authorities investigating the trail of dirty cash flowing to the UK have risen to a record level.

Requests from foreign governments as part of investigations into money laundering leapt 12 per cent to 163 last year, according to official data that underscore concerns that illicit funds are washing through UK banks and its high-end property market.

The number of so-called mutual legal assistance requests to the UK was more than double the figure for 2012, when they stood at just 73, according to Home Office data released through a Freedom of Information request.

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CaptainBrickbeard · 11/06/2017 17:38

I'm worried that Corbyn's success could evaporate. I really hope he reconciles the Labour Party.

Does anyone really expect us to believe that WhatsApp chat is genuine???

HashiAsLarry · 11/06/2017 17:39

C would do well to mix his cabinet up a little - he has surrounded himself with his London cronies.
Not that I disagree with the sentiment but Jc was hardly left with a choice in that matter.

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 17:42

Profile of Mays new bestie, Arlene on R4 at the moment. Should be interesting.

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 17:44

Indeed Hashi. He did have a mixed cabinet until the centerists walked out and tried to stage a coup to oust him Hmm

woman12345 · 11/06/2017 17:46

Thanks Bigly on R4 programme and I am Angry at Owen Patterson's comments on abortion dates. DUP and tories' are showing their true colours at least.

annandale · 11/06/2017 17:47

Just holding my breath to see whether 'JC' the inspirational, authentic person wins out over Corbyn the perpetual rebel retreating to his comfort zone.

Sorry if that sounds a bit Blairite today.

TheColdDoesBotherMeAnyway · 11/06/2017 17:48

Hunt has kept Health?

She really is sticking her fingers in her ears in the manner of a petulant toddler singing 'lalala not listening' isn't she?

Angry