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Westminstenders: The Continuing Saga of the Prime Minister Who Didn’t Know When to Quit

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RedToothBrush · 09/06/2017 21:03

As the dust begins to settle after the drama of a result no one really thought would happen though many hoped, we start to wonder what else will happen.

Initially it looked like the best possible result. The trouble is May has decided true to form to be a pain in the backside and not know when to quit. Her trade mark management style to crash forward in a straight through obstacles, taking everything that gets in her way in the process, rather than taking the more sensible and less hazardous route. She has had a nasty habit of come hurdling to an abrupt and painful messy end as she hits an inpenatrable brick wall of law or circumstance.

The idea that she can be moderated in any way is ridiculous, especially if Nick and Fiona survive.

We now have a situation with a minority government and a prime minister with a manifesto full of controversial proposals that will largely be consigned to the bin out of fear of defeat. Her ambitions over human rights are not in the manifesto so an embolden House of Lords will just throw it out without fear – because constitutionally the Salisbury convention only applies to majority governments. She has become a lame duck.

The trouble is that this is a parliament that needs to pass measures because of Brexit. May’s ability to deal with the Great Repeal Act in particular is going to be next to impossible. Certainly with the time already wasted.

May’s insistence that nothing has changed and its business as usual merely adds insult to injury and makes the whole situation worse. It sets her up to fail at some point, but that could well be after she has single handedly lead the country to economic and social disaster. Her lack of understanding of this just shows her up as the poor one trick politician without real leadership skills and vision. It marks her arrogance and lack of respect for those who are her bosses.

She could have acknowledged that the election result was a wholesale rejection of her vision for Brexit and reached out to other parties for a consensus over Brexit she decided to go rushing in bed with the hardline right DUP.

We now have a situation where her loose agreement with the DUP to prop up her government could be in breach of the Good Friday Agreement, further risking instability in that part of the union. It is not only fool hardy, its reckless. Not only that, without a formal agreement in the form of a coalition, such support means the she can not rely on the back up of the Salisbury Convention.

This is also done without irony after vilifying Corbyn for his association with terrorists. It shows a total disregard for the colleagues who the DUP regard as an ‘abomination’ for being gay, especially Ruth Davidson who basically saved her political neck. She really is a political prisoner to their whims and demands. This arrangement with the one that John Major avoided even when he struggled with a minority government because of the problems it would cause. Of course, if you were cynical you might well argue that May wants to break the GFA.

The rest of the party will cowardly let her lurch from crisis to crisis because the like the spine to rid themselves of the problem. Political crisis which involve NI are particularly difficult and particularly risky. May risks constitutional crisis there, with the House of Lords, over our WTO status, with Human Rights of EU and British nationals, a possible no confidence vote and with EU negotiations. That’s just the big ones we can forsee now. Yet she sees herself as the champion of stability in this midst of it all with a staggering lack of self-awareness or brazen disregard. Its like how the GOP tolerate Trump for their Christian agenda, the Hard Brexiteers will tolerate May to get Brexit through in any way they can; though this now opens it up to being even more chaotic unless the liberals stand up to the ever increasing suicide of it. The reality is that the chances of her being able to persuade both the liberal and right wings to agree to the same plan is slim.

The chances of the house of cards simply collapsing and us left with another election are huge.

There is hope. More than a landslide would have brought, but this path is fraught with pitfalls, it is difficult to see May doing anything but charging headlong over a cliff and missing the best way out of this mess. David Davis has admitted that there is now no longer a mandate for hard Brexit and we will need to stay in the Single Market and Customs Union and Greg Clark is summoning business to support the course. There are calls from Sarah Wollaston, Heidi Allen and Yvette Cooper for a cross party approach to key issues. This of course is the last thing that the Wing Nuts – and May - will allow willingly.

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OlennasWimple · 11/06/2017 16:37

Green is also Paymaster General (according to Wikipedia - who updates those pages so quickly??)

Lico · 11/06/2017 16:39

Labour's Brexit

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/25/the-guardian-view-on-labours-brexit-out-of-the-eu-but-close-to-it

I find it interesting that last week Corbyn was explaining to a TV audience the consequences of tariffs etc .,Corbyn took the exemple of Airbus. Today Airbus announces the possibility of them relocating. They employ 10.000 people.

OlennasWimple · 11/06/2017 16:39

Greening appointment = rowing back on grammar school promises...?

Lico · 11/06/2017 16:39

10.000 people in UK !

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 16:43

Now, I don't want to seem picky, but I would call time limits on abortions a pretty major social issue. Ffs! Angry

Westminstenders: The Continuing Saga of the Prime Minister Who Didn’t Know When to Quit
OlennasWimple · 11/06/2017 16:43

Sajid Javid = communities secretary

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 16:44

Sam Coates Times‏*@SamCoatesTimes*
Sajid Javid has been confirmed as Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, a sign of just how weak Mrs May is

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IrenetheQuaint · 11/06/2017 16:44

Surprisingly little change so far. Maybe Hunt will stay at Health too!

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 16:45

Well, they was a brief moment of sunshine.

Donald Trump: 'No change' to UK state visit plans, says No 10
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40241220

OlennasWimple · 11/06/2017 16:45

Bigly - abortion is just a women's issue, obviously Angry

JustAnotherPoster00 · 11/06/2017 16:47

Maybe Hunt will stay at Health too!

Thats going to go down like a cup of cold sick

OlennasWimple · 11/06/2017 16:47

JC has said he won't be re-shuffling his Shadow Cabinet at the moment - so Diane Abbott remains Shadow Home Sec

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 16:47

Though this is rather ambiguous: "The Queen extended an invitation to President Trump to visit the UK and there is no change to those plans.".

It sort of suggests that the invitation has not changed, but doesn't mention whether the acceptance of that invitation has changed or not.

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 16:49

Joshua Rozenberg‏*@JoshuaRozenberg*

David Liddington is 3rd new lord chancellor in little more than two years. It used to be a job you did for a decade.

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BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 16:50

JC has said he won't be re-shuffling his Shadow Cabinet at the moment - so Diane Abbott remains Shadow Home Sec

There must be a lot of discussion going on with the centerists right now. I also get the impression that labour are sitting back and waiting it out to see what the Tories do. They wouldn't want to divert any attention from May while she is in slow motion car crash mode.

Golondrina · 11/06/2017 16:50

Guardian reporting that JC delaying reshuffle of shadow cabinet to take the fight to TM. Is this not an error? Should JC not concentrate on getting a really top notch shadow cab now and entrench his success in the party, by bringing in more centrists? I see Yvette Cooper and Chuku have said they would serve. Labour is still capable of gambling away a huge acheivement and JC is notoriously stubborn, I'm worried all this hope and success will crumble.

Golondrina · 11/06/2017 16:51

x post with Bigly. That's a good point.

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 16:54

I think Corbyn does need to be a bit careful about being seen to whisk in centerists who were openly trying to unseat him at the expense of more loyal MPs. I also think there is no hurry right at this moment when the attention is focused on the Tories screwing up. We shall see how it pans out, but I am not immediately worried by him taking his time on this one and making sure he gets it right when the reshuffle does happen.

BiglyBadgers · 11/06/2017 16:55

X post with your post about being x post. Grin

HashiAsLarry · 11/06/2017 16:56

Corbyn wanted to send us back to the 1970s.
With reduction in time limits on abortions 'not being a major social issue' it seems the Tories may be happy to take us back to pre 1967. Probably more in fact, but at least we have a definite minimum now.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 11/06/2017 17:04

He can't just sack Diane while she is ill

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 17:04

Cunt keeps health

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Artisanjam · 11/06/2017 17:06

Lidington not a lawyer. Given that about 2/3 of MPs start as lawyers you'd think they could find someone legally qualified to be Lord Chancellor and oversee the court system.

Artisanjam · 11/06/2017 17:06

Suggestion on the Beeb that people are being summonsed to be sacked and are refusing to go. Apparently confirmation of existing jobs is done by phone.

RedToothBrush · 11/06/2017 17:06

Here comes loathsom

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