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Westministenders: Up Shit Creek without Wifi.

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RedToothBrush · 29/04/2017 22:12

Theresa May is being held hostage.

There is mounting evidence that all is not as it seems at CCHQ. It makes you don your tin foil hat and ask who is in charge.

Theresa May was a Remainer. She suddenly abandoned that when she became leader. Her proclamation of what would follow next seems directly at odds with her actions. This is not her fault. This is her plea for help and way of telling the outside world that she is a prisoner of Brexit.

At first it seemed like perhaps she had been locked up with Brexiteers for too long. She seemed to be developing a survival strategy which seemed totally irrational to outsiders. The signs of intimidation everywhere though. Instead of criticising those who did this, May joined in with them or was complicit in her silence.

Things are now taking a sinister turn. After repeatedly saying ‘No Election’, May crumbled and called one. She has now not been seen in public since. Instead she is being wheeled out at closed events to the party faithful. They are being dressed as mixing with the people but they are no such thing. The plebs in attendance are set to ‘mute’ or locked out completely.

Behold the coming of the May-Bot. She seeks to ‘prevent tourism’ in Wales. She now no longer knows which town she is currently in. (Much less have a plan for Brexit). She accuses an organisation set up to use its numbers to get better deals, of doing what it is supposed to, except she calls this ‘ganging up’.

May is not transported in a bus. Oh no. Instead she travels by the Bond Villian’s choice of transport; the helicopter.

More worrying still is the mantra ‘Strong and Stable’ repeated as many times as possible. It is almost as if, if she says it enough she might start believing it. She certainly has got her party members brainwashed and acting as if they were Zombies. Who needs ‘Spice’ when you are a Conservative? They ‘Believe’…

The ploy is to hoodwink people into voting for May instead of the Tories. CCHQ have removed Conservative branding from literature and campaigning in the North. The party are still too toxic, but May apparently scores well especially against Corbyn. Ironically however negatively I think of Corbyn he does display something May increasingly seems incapable of: humanity.

Many people might think of May as some sort of dictator figure. Its true. Every vote for her strengthens her hand. But not for Brexit negotiations. Mainly because Brexit is without merit or reward. Not unless you hold power. This is part 2 of the grab for it.

This is May’s power paradox. SHE is not powerful. She isn’t persuasive. She isn’t a healer of divides. She relies on authoritarian measures to get her way. This isn’t a sign of her personal power, but a sign of her personal weakness. She is sly and sneaky in her methods rather than compelling others to come along with her. They are doing so more because they dislike the alternative in Corbyn less.

She is not stable. She has lurched from one drama to the next, and has repeatedly been forced to back down from what she wanted. Nothing says ‘stability’ and ‘good leadership’ like appointing Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary. The lady is not so much for turning and leading, but is already staggering around dizzy whilst blindfolded playing pin the tail on the donkey. And Christ she’s got a lot of them in her Government. Including the numpty who decided to do a live event and broadcast it in an area with no wi-fi. Mind you, that is soon to be the entire country. Or what’s left of it.

She had said she had a mandate for Brexit and did not need this to be approved by the country as she was getting on with the job. This is why we are having a General Election to give her a mandate…

Not only that, but there is a lurking question here that should not be forgotten. Who is pulling May’s strings and making her dance as her actions are not natural? Every puppet show has puppet masters behind the scenes of the stage, hiding in the shadows.

They will dispense with their toy once she has outlived her usefulness like every good baddie.

Is she the one we should be most fearful of?

Hold on tight this is going to be a very bumpy ride over the next two years. Just how many casualties will be sacrificed on the altar of Brexit?

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prettybird · 30/04/2017 10:40

Two years ago today I shared this article on FB, in the run up to the GE. Last year I shared it again in the run up to the HR elections. Today I shared it again in the run up to yet another GE. Shock

Nowt much has changed SadAngry

NB: the title is sarcastic Grin

https://lightinthenorth.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/snp-voters-are-just-a-bunch-of-simple-minded-deluded-clones/

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2017 10:42

The line

"Let me be clear"

Should come with a klaxon and flashing lights and you should sit up and go 'here comes the bollocks'.

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Badders123 · 30/04/2017 10:44

I'm so glad I'm not watching
It would push me over the bloody edge 😡

prettybird · 30/04/2017 10:47

Dh was watching and turned it off. We want to keep a functioning TV Grin

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2017 10:48

HAHAHAH she wants to get out there into communities that feel that politicians have ignored them.

This is why she is running her campaign like this and not doing tv debates.

PPPPLLLLEEEAASSSSSEEEE!

Worst answer of the day. Amongst many.

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missmoon · 30/04/2017 10:58

I can't bear to watch! Thanks for the updates!

missmoon · 30/04/2017 11:00

Lico re. newspaper readership figures by region, the British Election Study might have done something on this. The survey asks respondents which newspaper they read (in addition to all the other variables). You could use this to estimate readership by location based on demographics, vote intentions etc. Possibly someone (or the BES) have done this already.

SapphireStrange · 30/04/2017 11:53

Marking place. Thanks Red.

Cailleach1 · 30/04/2017 12:36

"The line

"Let me be clear"

Should come with a klaxon and flashing lights and you should sit up and go 'here comes the bollocks'."

Thanks Red, that will be my coping mechanism for that term. At the moment I feel like screaming when I am exposed to it ad nauseum.

mybrainhurtsalot · 30/04/2017 12:39

Tim Shipman's Brexit book, All Out War, is £1.99 on Kindle this weekend. I think it was discussed and recommended on previous threads.

Peregrina · 30/04/2017 12:41

At last a promise from Theresa May - she will not raise VAT. (Until of course, she finds it expedient to do so.)

HashiAsLarry · 30/04/2017 12:46

Whenever I hear 'let me be clear' a voice in my head starts going 'the following sentence will contain no facts nor answer the question at hand' Grin

Motheroffourdragons · 30/04/2017 13:01

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Cailleach1 · 30/04/2017 13:01

It is 1984. It is doublespeak.

May still saying that negotiations can take place in tandem and don't need to be phased.

Despite being one of three points to be discussed first, Ireland border not even mentioned so far.

Michael Dougan has a poscast saying that most negotiations take the format politically and legally as EU are doing. Here he is analysing her 'brexit' election pitch.

Gumpendorf · 30/04/2017 13:29

It's that smug, self satisfied smile when she's given her answer that gets me.

I do hope someone manages to ask her about the not really managing, non property owning families, and the younger people who don't stand a chance of getting on the property ladder. And persist until they get an answer.

Not that it will do any good. Michael Deacon commented on Twitter this morning that Cameron did carefully staged events and repeated slogans in 2015. People bought it then ...

BiglyBadgers · 30/04/2017 13:46

Here is a nice graph I got from Twitter showing voting preferences by age. Of course it nothing surprising, but I do like a nice graph, so thought I would share. Smile

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prettybird · 30/04/2017 14:23

I wonder if Theresa May thinks that if she says, "Let me be clear" often enough and loudly enough, then the EU will just capitulate. Wink

Nothing really seems to have changed in the UK's attitude since this very appropriate tweet was posted over a month ago.....Hmm

@JaninGlasgow: Best description I've seen of UK's negotiating strategy; akin to technique of speaking English louder to foreigners😂

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Bearbehind · 30/04/2017 14:41

It's quite astounding.

At what point will her disciples realise she is not getting her own way in this no matter how many times she says 'let me be clear'

Why are people accepting that she is so arrogant that she thinks things the EU have been very clear about are still up for discussion.

Far from strengthening her hand- it's just making her look an almighty twat.

BigChocFrenzy · 30/04/2017 14:43

pretty Very few of the poorest in society are Tory voters.
Homeowners, especially those who are pensioners, vote overwhelmingly Tory.

The Tories have the optimum strategy of how to win under FPTP:

  • ringfence what their 40% chunk of voters want
  • cuts to make everyone else pay for that - especially to finance tax cuts for the better off
  • keep the manifesto vague, but make speeches so the 40% know they'll be taken care of
  • add a big dollop of nationalism and blaming foreigners for anything that goes wrong
BigChocFrenzy · 30/04/2017 14:50

May and her govt ministers keep repeating how she fantasises plans the Brexit negotiations, what the UK will receive and what it will have to give (nothing of substance)

Any deviation from that is the EU punishing Britain
So the public will blame the EU, not the govt

With the demonising of saboteurs / Remainers too, the Tories may keep hold of their 40% vote indefinitely.

HesterThrale · 30/04/2017 14:55

Yes Bigchoc very clear take on the formula for re-election. We could be stuck with them indefinitely.

Re TM's repeated slogans: it's like brainwashing. The first time a Telegraph article ever made me laugh (just a tiny snigger) was on reading this: (sorry, paywall, so I don't know what the rest of it says.)

www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2017/04/29/should-never-offer-theresa-may-cup-tea/

prettybird · 30/04/2017 14:57

I agree BigChoc - I was being very slightly facetious.

Someone recently (can't remember if it was on here, Facebook or Twitter - I'll need to try and look it out) posted an article about how far the Conservatives have moved from the concept of "One Nation Tories". Sad

Calyx72 · 30/04/2017 15:05

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/30/theresa-may-refuses-say-taxes-will-fall-conservatives-win-election/

Not just the poor but now the rest.

"Unless the Conservatives are much clearer in detailing their policies, voters may conclude that the only real choice they have on June 8th is between a party that will raise taxes substantially and a party that will raise them by even more
"Tax take is now at an all time high in peacetime - both in terms of revenue and as a proportion of the economy. It's deeply concerning that the Conservatives don't seem to see this as a problem."

But nothing they have done so far seems to have caused them a problem.

Calyx72 · 30/04/2017 15:09

Just wanted to say by the way that these threads are amazing, thanks redtoothbrush and everyone, back to lurking now SmileFlowers

SwedishEdith · 30/04/2017 15:25

I watched May on Peston - lots of stumbles and nerves etc. I was annoyed he didn't pick her up on her LGBT voting record (as he'd promised on HIGNFY). She also kept going on about a meritocracy. Which sounds fair but is also a tactic to blame people for their circumstances. "But we gave you grammar schools, it's your fault you couldn't get a well-paid job". There was not a trace of compassion for the Not Managing At All (because they don't vote, never mind don't vote Tory).