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Westministenders: Up Shit Creek without Wifi.

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RedToothBrush · 29/04/2017 22:12

Theresa May is being held hostage.

There is mounting evidence that all is not as it seems at CCHQ. It makes you don your tin foil hat and ask who is in charge.

Theresa May was a Remainer. She suddenly abandoned that when she became leader. Her proclamation of what would follow next seems directly at odds with her actions. This is not her fault. This is her plea for help and way of telling the outside world that she is a prisoner of Brexit.

At first it seemed like perhaps she had been locked up with Brexiteers for too long. She seemed to be developing a survival strategy which seemed totally irrational to outsiders. The signs of intimidation everywhere though. Instead of criticising those who did this, May joined in with them or was complicit in her silence.

Things are now taking a sinister turn. After repeatedly saying ‘No Election’, May crumbled and called one. She has now not been seen in public since. Instead she is being wheeled out at closed events to the party faithful. They are being dressed as mixing with the people but they are no such thing. The plebs in attendance are set to ‘mute’ or locked out completely.

Behold the coming of the May-Bot. She seeks to ‘prevent tourism’ in Wales. She now no longer knows which town she is currently in. (Much less have a plan for Brexit). She accuses an organisation set up to use its numbers to get better deals, of doing what it is supposed to, except she calls this ‘ganging up’.

May is not transported in a bus. Oh no. Instead she travels by the Bond Villian’s choice of transport; the helicopter.

More worrying still is the mantra ‘Strong and Stable’ repeated as many times as possible. It is almost as if, if she says it enough she might start believing it. She certainly has got her party members brainwashed and acting as if they were Zombies. Who needs ‘Spice’ when you are a Conservative? They ‘Believe’…

The ploy is to hoodwink people into voting for May instead of the Tories. CCHQ have removed Conservative branding from literature and campaigning in the North. The party are still too toxic, but May apparently scores well especially against Corbyn. Ironically however negatively I think of Corbyn he does display something May increasingly seems incapable of: humanity.

Many people might think of May as some sort of dictator figure. Its true. Every vote for her strengthens her hand. But not for Brexit negotiations. Mainly because Brexit is without merit or reward. Not unless you hold power. This is part 2 of the grab for it.

This is May’s power paradox. SHE is not powerful. She isn’t persuasive. She isn’t a healer of divides. She relies on authoritarian measures to get her way. This isn’t a sign of her personal power, but a sign of her personal weakness. She is sly and sneaky in her methods rather than compelling others to come along with her. They are doing so more because they dislike the alternative in Corbyn less.

She is not stable. She has lurched from one drama to the next, and has repeatedly been forced to back down from what she wanted. Nothing says ‘stability’ and ‘good leadership’ like appointing Boris Johnson Foreign Secretary. The lady is not so much for turning and leading, but is already staggering around dizzy whilst blindfolded playing pin the tail on the donkey. And Christ she’s got a lot of them in her Government. Including the numpty who decided to do a live event and broadcast it in an area with no wi-fi. Mind you, that is soon to be the entire country. Or what’s left of it.

She had said she had a mandate for Brexit and did not need this to be approved by the country as she was getting on with the job. This is why we are having a General Election to give her a mandate…

Not only that, but there is a lurking question here that should not be forgotten. Who is pulling May’s strings and making her dance as her actions are not natural? Every puppet show has puppet masters behind the scenes of the stage, hiding in the shadows.

They will dispense with their toy once she has outlived her usefulness like every good baddie.

Is she the one we should be most fearful of?

Hold on tight this is going to be a very bumpy ride over the next two years. Just how many casualties will be sacrificed on the altar of Brexit?

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prettybird · 30/04/2017 18:28

Who cares? It demonstrates strong and stable leadership and she is very clear about it. Hmm

Who are we to argue? Wink

BigChocFrenzy · 30/04/2017 18:34

So "strong & stable" now means pretending to hold a children's birthday party Confused [baffled]

Was she supposed to be the clown ?

I'm baffled that there hasn't yet been a national "Duh" moment after which the whole country joins in to sing:

"The govt is in the altogether, the altogether;
they're altogether as naked as the day that they were born"

Peregrina · 30/04/2017 18:38

I imagine that in a community like the one she booked her fake children's party, just about everyone would know each other, and would know which child had a birthday coming up. She could have got away with that stunt in a large city.

mathanxiety · 30/04/2017 18:38

Just wow, at that Times article, and what it reveals.

I am appreciating Juncker's sense of humour more and more. ('But the dinner was excellent').

woman12345 · 30/04/2017 18:40

It's a bit creepier than that Peregrina
www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/04/theresa-mays-fake-meetings/
Sad

prettybird · 30/04/2017 19:02

Not only did she do her Scottish campaign speech to a captive audience at a children's party, when she did go out for a photo op to find out what real Scottish people thought in a tiny village miles from nowhere (Crathes: voting population

Unescorted · 30/04/2017 19:02

Someone needs to remind the "Tory source" in the Telegraph article that the civil service are in Purdah and therefore are not even advising government officials even less "banning" them from dinners with whomever they please.

Children's party is about right except squabbling toddlers make more sense.

HashiAsLarry · 30/04/2017 19:10

Two things that seem glaringly obvious today but may have been missed.

Firstly, TM and her assurance she wouldn't raise vat. She hasn't chosen to drop it either and it's already 5% higher than it had to be.

Second, EU positioning that the past is dealt with along with EU rights prior to a trade deal is basically them saying 'you can't use people as a bargaining chip'.

HashiAsLarry · 30/04/2017 19:27

On a lighter note one of my friends said someone had pointed out that 'strong and stable leadership' fits perfectly with All Things Bright and Beautiful. Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 30/04/2017 19:33

Local elections

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/25/labour-is-heading-for-disaster-in-local-elections-6596865/

"Ukip is facing near wipeout Grin [cheering emoticon]
The party faces the prospect of losing 105 out of the total of 145 seats they won last time round, many of which they have already forfeited due to defections."

LibDems "stand to gain around 85" seats

Tories to gain everywhere, but especially in Wales:
"It’s very likely we will see Labour lose more council seats in Wales than in the whole of England"

Labour expected to lose many seats in England, Wales & Scotland:
"likely to lose its role as the dominant force in Scottish local government to the Scottish National Party, with Conservatives also making gains."
"The Labour vote has been collapsing, and if you look at some of the by-elections in Glasgow it’s been horrendous.
‘It looks as though Labour is heading for disaster north of the border.
And therefore, it will be very, very surprising indeed if Labour retains control of any council in Scotland."

woman12345 · 30/04/2017 19:36

It probably won't change the inevitable, Sad but
@LabourEoin
Key turning point in the election. 100s of headteachers just gave Corbyn a standing ovation. A serious endorsement

Education is one to watch.

She's timed this 'election' to coincide with the new GCSEs about which there are some very cross parents and very stressed teens.

The school cuts are pretty obvious in every locality and the loss of SEND and CAMHs provision, not to mention potential 4.5 day school weeks.

Might just be very bad timing on this one.

mathanxiety · 30/04/2017 19:46

Apologies if this has already been posted - it's a comparison of the BNP's manifesto from 2005 with today's Tory policies.

metro.co.uk/2017/04/27/some-of-bnps-2005-election-pledges-are-now-mainstream-policy-6599296/

Calyx72 · 30/04/2017 19:53

TM knocking on doors:

www.facebook.com/skynews/videos/1735610159786907/

Keysafes on the doors. Likely frail elderly who can't answer the door themselves so family and/or carers need to be able to open the door.

Pair of absolutely oblivious numpties 😡 or did they do it on purpose?

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2017 20:00

Faisal Islam‏*@faisalislam*

51% those polled by @Yougov /ST say Britain should stay Single Market member. 26% say not. Not on offer from main parties rep 75% of votes
... the pro-Single Market coalition is 80% of Remain voters and, crucially, 25% of Leave voters - rather interesting numbers...

Westministenders: Up Shit Creek without Wifi.
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mathanxiety · 30/04/2017 20:18

Unescorted
The role of the special advisor is a murky one. www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/27/sir-jeremy-heywood-civil-service-denies-pressure-special-advisers-canvass-byelections

Nick Timothy is paid from the public purse but he is a political appointee. The idea that he can be separated in any way from Theresa May or from Brexit policy is ludicrous. Timothy would have been a legitimate presence at the dinner. There are many areas where the role of special advisor diverges significantly from that of an ordinary civil servant.

The reason to stay in the shadows is that the brand of Theresa May ('strong, stable', single leader cutting through the crap and mowing down all opposition - see YouGov poll) must not be watered down by prominent appearances on the part of her eminence grises, Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill.

woman12345 · 30/04/2017 20:28

RedToothBrush can you do a magical correlation between those leave/remain stats and BigChocFrenzy's (scary) local election predictions?

PolynesianGirl · 30/04/2017 20:38

Following

lalalonglegs · 30/04/2017 21:09

Keep forgetting to placemark - doh!

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2017 21:16

TM knocking on doors

Funny eh? Its almost as if she'd lost control of the agenda and the story had started to become about her not meeting the public.

woman12345 magic correlation? Not really. Lots of leave areas are going LD in locals. What seems to be part of the whole general election dynamic is this issue about Labour taking voters for granted and not having changed things. So people will vote for whoever they think might change that (see Brexit), because they don't feel they have anything to lose. (note that people who don't vote at all, tend to be the most likely to be on benefits). My take on Wales, in particular is there are large numbers of people making the connection between Labour on a local level as being 'the establishment' rather than the Conservatives who they haven't had contact with. It already happened in Scotland but the SNP were there to fill the political void.

I notice the estimates on the LD gains at the council elections seems to have gone down. It was around 100.

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LurkingHusband · 30/04/2017 21:23

Is the May/Fake meeting strategy more reminiscent of Hitler (via Goebbels) , or Stalin ??

NinonDeLenclos · 30/04/2017 21:29

Not remotely close to reliable source, but gossip:

skwawkbox.org/2017/04/30/theresa-may-under-investigation-re-brexit-profits/

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2017 21:43

The May under investigation thing looks to me as if there is nothing to back it up. But its believable and that in itself could be damaging in post-truth era.

I'd take it with a pinch of salt as it looks too good to be true, unless someone credible picks up the story

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NinonDeLenclos · 30/04/2017 21:51

Absolutely nothing to back it up, I've looked.

woman12345 · 30/04/2017 21:52

Thanks RTB watching that story too.

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2017 22:16

Ninon just looking again, one of the people in that Skwawkbox story is none other that Natalie Rowe. George Osborne's 'BFF'. (No don't make me repeat her real association with him, as I want to sleep tonight).

She's.... she's.... she's a 'character' (Been on BigBrother, written a book about Tory Scandal, generally has a thing about going on about the Osborne thing).

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