London 25 March

[Niamer]

See you there!

I voted remain and I am northern. Your anecdotal evidence of seeing some northern remainers on the match doesn't negate the fact that people from the long neglected areas of the industrial north voted leave

I don't disagree with you Captain but when people have been ignored and exploited for decades people will inevitably be tempted to vote for a radical change.

I have been extremely disappointed with the news courage on BBC regarding the march. Couldn't find anything about it yesterday or today.

Unfortunately, cowgirl, this is a radical change that is going to cause considerable harm to those areas that voted leave. There is a difference between understanding why people voted to leave and believing that it will be of any benefit to the people who voted for it. The march was for them as much as for anyone.

For usernumbers:

Kaija Please don't be so condescending to say that you are doing the north a favour and that you know what's better for them than they do. You say this stuff then wonder why, when given the opportunity to resist this condescension, people voted as they did.
I lived through the miners' strike where I grew up. A few decades later and all the politicians were telling the people they abandoned and abused in these towns to vote to keep the status quos,, which of course the political and fiscal elite are keen to maintain, and they then wonder why they lost the vote.

We went on the |march for a variety of reasons, besides wanting to remain. But there are a couple of additional factors ...

1. It was a wake-up call. Despite the broadly pro-Leave "get over it" media, it's clear there are a vast number of people who do agree with us.

2. It's a statement to the future. Whatever happens in future, at least the powers that be (Theresa May et al) won't be able to pretend that "no one objected".

The second point is crucial. I know TAATs are discouraged, but currently on Mumsnet there's a rather dim poster who is trying to single handedly rehabilitate Tony Blair with the support of some equally thick people who are trying to say "actually the entire country supported the Iraq war at the time, so I don't know why they are complaining now ?". Well, my history-rewriting possibly Russian botnet friends, a million people didn't support the war. And they made a line in the sand.

In the lift at Green Park tube, MrsLH met people from Nottingham, Liverpool and Manchester who were all going on the march.

Oh for christ's sake cowgirl. How do you think Brexit is going to benefit the north?

Plenty of middle class southerners voted leave.

And there were very few working class northerners amongst prominent leave campaigners, and a hell of a lot of extremely privileged, rich, powerful southerners.

So don't give me that "you're so patronising" crap.

You know sometimes it's like shouting "fire! Get out of the building" and being met with a wall of people standing in the smoke, arms folded, tutting "how rude! She didn't say please!"

You are incredibly fucking patronising Kaija And then you wonder why people voted as they did. In all honesty, I'd rather struggle than have to take lectures from people like you.

The industrial north voted leave. The actual people. I don't give a shiny shit who the 'prominent' people were

Maybe you're in a position to tighten your belt and "struggle". Maybe you won't need the NHS. Not everyone will be so lucky.

Please won't somebody explain how condescending Remainers who are all middle-class and Southern and who "lost, get over it" will be "kicking" Leave-voters who are all working class and Northern who "won Brexit which means Brexit which means it will be a success?? Pretty please?

The campaigners were the ones who sold Brexit. They are the people who made it happen. Banks, Cummings, Johnson, Farage, Rees Mogg, Davis. And that's before we get on to the likes of Robert Mercer.

Should probably give Corbyn and Milne a mention too.

My do is long term disabled and we use the NHS to keep him going, so fuck off with your assumptions Kaija

The NHS cannot cope at present and this is the reason why many people including those who within the NHS voted leave. I was given a leaflet by a campaign group on that very point.

Dp not do.

Precisely my point. The Leave campaign promised money for the NHS and it is quite clear that there will be less money, not more, as well as shortages of Drs, nurses and care workers. People voted in good faith. Campaigners lied.

I have never said 'you lost, get over it.' I voted remain. I want to be in the EU. The point I am making is that I can understand why people voted as they did. It's not, as much of the media would want us to believe that we are thick racists in the north.

We have been given a financial kicking for years here. Investment per capita in transport, education, the arts is way below the South. I can only see things will get worse for us.

If you think you're going to be better off with a hard Brexit, fine. If not, why would you not protest against it?

You really don't get it do you Kaija I would actually love in your world for a day. It must be jolly spiffing.

I have been extremely disappointed with the news courage on BBC regarding the march. Couldn't find anything about it yesterday or today.

Yes but Cheryl had a baybee, so there was no space to report politicl news...