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to share with you the croudfund link for the new legal action to stop brexit

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MarieBurnham · 10/12/2016 09:23

www.crowdjustice.org/case/brexit-for-the-100/

I've only given a tenner, but there are plenty of rich people (unless it's all stealth boasting about dipique candles) here, so we should be able to help.

It's currently at 18.507k and needs 70!

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JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 13:53

There IS a way to scrutinise the deal and make amendments.

JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 13:54

Are people just ignoring the facts?

80sMum · 10/12/2016 13:54

justanother does that apply with regard to any deals negotiated after Article 50 has been invoked?

amispartacus · 10/12/2016 13:56

There IS a way to scrutinise the deal and make amendments

Really. When?

JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 13:56

does that apply with regard to any deals negotiated after Article 50 has been invoked?

No, Which is why i think this campagin is good

however it's been damaged beyond repair by the OP claiming it's to stop the EU exit, rather than telling the truth.

NotDavidTennant · 10/12/2016 13:59

I explained up thread labour gained parliment the right to do this 3 days ago in return for backing May's March timetable.

Erm, no right has been gained until the appropriate legislation has been passed by Parliament. Until then we are reliant on the promises of politicians.

JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 13:59

Really. When?

When the 'Brexit plan' is published.

80sMum · 10/12/2016 14:00

does that apply with regard to any deals negotiated after Article 50 has been invoked?

"No, Which is why i think this campagin is good

however it's been damaged beyond repair by the OP claiming it's to stop the EU exit, rather than telling the truth."

^^ I agree with you wholeheartedly on this! The OP has completely misunderstood the point of the campaign!

JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 14:00

Until then we are reliant on the promises of politicians.

We are always reliant on the promises of politicians.

Suppermummy02 · 10/12/2016 14:00

This is NOT about stopping Brexit! Um yes it is, people aren't stupid, stop lying to us.

people who may have voted Leave on a "take back control" ticket now appear perfectly happy to relinquish all control to the government!
Do all remoaners have such low intelligence? We want to leave the EU so our democratically elected government has control, and whom we can sack every 5 years if we dont like what they are doing.

amispartacus · 10/12/2016 14:01

I think this will be one of the most difficult things done by Parliament and there will be a lot of people who will not be happy with the outcome. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

I also worry that Theresa May is being egged on by the Tory press and is going to antagonise the EU even more.

Do we need them more than they need us?

JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 14:02

Do we need them more than they need us?

It's too entangled to tell.

amispartacus · 10/12/2016 14:03

Do all remoaners have such low intelligence? We want to leave the EU so our democratically elected government has control, and whom we can sack every 5 years if we dont like what they are doing

One of the things that's come out of this debate is the divisiveness in this country. Language like that really helps Hmm Just like the language in the OP doesn't help either.

The thing about the EU negotations is that we (our elected representatives) need to have a say.

Do you think Parliament needs a say in the negotations and what they would like to see? Or should that be done secretly by the Conservatives?

JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 14:05

It's also why the UK can never totally make a perfectly clean break from the EU, so much business and legal matters are tied together that it's impossible.

I do have faith in parliaments ability to find compromises though.

JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 14:07

Not so much faith in the goverment figureheads, but the lower ranking members currently doing the work.

NotDavidTennant · 10/12/2016 14:07

We are always reliant on the promises of politicians.

What are you talking about? If something is a legal right then it's not dependent on the promises of politicians. We have such a thing as the rule of law in this country.

JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber · 10/12/2016 14:08

If something is a legal right then it's not dependent on the promises of politicians. We have such a thing as the rule of law in this country.

Even law requires trust in people to follow it.

NotDavidTennant · 10/12/2016 14:09

Do all remoaners have such low intelligence? We want to leave the EU so our democratically elected government has control,

Are all leavers such as ignorant blowhards? We elect Parliament in this country, not the government.

restinginmyaccount · 10/12/2016 14:12

I'm a Remoaner but I won't waste my time or money funding a legal fight against the outcome of the vote.

NotDavidTennant · 10/12/2016 14:13

Even law requires trust in people to follow it.

But it doesn't require us to rely on the promises of politicians, which is what you were asserting.

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MarieBurnham · 10/12/2016 14:14

I agree with you wholeheartedly on this! The OP has completely misunderstood the point of the campaign!

Sorry I was cut off on the title, I was going to add "without proper checks"

The fund is slowing down, just crossed 40k. I'd say to keep giving as the sooner it reaches target the better for the economy and less uncertainty.

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WellErrr · 10/12/2016 14:14

I don't want to say anything inflammatory but it was the less educated people below middle class that voted en mass for it

Thank you op, when I read stuff like this - I get on my knees and kiss the ground that the vote went the correct way and we voted LEAVE.

Because as repugnant as that sentiment is - there are many in the EU hierarchy who feel the same as you op. They want to inflict an un voted for political ideology on the EU and they don't care what is in their way, they will proceed at literally all costs. They care nothing for the poor and un educated people across the EU, collateral damage - fodder in the face of the Great EU Egoistical Juggernaut.

So thanks for reminding me what we voted against. And thank the good folk of the UK for voting to get the hell out of it.

Very well said.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 10/12/2016 14:16

Sorry I was cut off on the title, I was going to add "without proper checks"

Hmm

Of course you did... that's why you'very not mentioned it in any of your subsequent posts.

WellErrr · 10/12/2016 14:16

I'd say to keep giving

😂😂

80sMum · 10/12/2016 14:16

suppermummy02 we have a parliamentary democracy in the UK. You seem to be angling for a dictatorship!

Do all remoaners have such low intelligence? We want to leave the EU so our democratically elected government has control, and whom we can sack every 5 years if we dont like what they are doing."

OK, so if you want to give all power to the government and not Parliament, what's to stop that government passing a law banning general elections? Or banning any opposing parties from putting forward parliamentary candidates? You wouldn't be able to sack them then!