'The Brexit Arms' is now open. Friendly cosy pub with log fire for leavers & remainers to chat & ponder life, the universe, & Brexit.

[surferjet]

You are all most welcome

Damn right people don't feel welcome here

I am afraid your making an un true goady and sweeping generalization. My own family is a rainbow of so many countries. Including POlish SIL who has been here for years and many long term friends from Europe. None of them feel un welcome, I can however understand why some people may feel this, but to make such a sweeping generalization is a falsehood. My DH is only a quart British.

Bear why do you think I or anyone one else would?

I also dont know who you think you are or anyone else is - to tell people what their realities are or are not?

Gloria - Asia is horrified by the racist belligerence and imbecility!! I really don't know what to say to that.

autumn simple question - why do you think the EU is corrupt?

surferjet Or so she said. Not that it makes any difference either way.

Really Gloria? Asia is shocked by one of the most liberal inclusive, multi cultural success stories in the world is it?

It's shocked that one of the most liberal, inclusive, multicultural success stories has degenerated into racist, xenophobic little dump.

I assume you read the papers.

Is that your view too Gloria?

How odd Gloria when many minorities have called the EU the "white fortress" and expressed gratitude at being able to just "be" to a greater degree in the Uk than elsewhere.

I dont see a little dump I see a country that wants to embrace its old pal the EU but also look to the rest of the exciting big wide world.

I don't think this country is past saving, whether it's possible to save it is another matter.

Bear its not that simple a question but it is simple to google it all and do your own research. Which I assume one would do to make a sensible voting decision? I looked at both sides, I understand both sides, but on balance felt it was better to Leave.

I strongly felt there was no room for reform from within either.

We can certainly save it, once we are out of the EU.

Do you not grasp the difference between pre and post referendum?

The narrative coming from UKIP, the Leave campaign and the Tory conference casts a new unpleasant light on a country that has always been perceived as tolerant.

It is a simple question, stop waffling.

If you think it's corrupt - why?

Bear, I know my reasons, but what do you think? You must have considered these points when you voted? Its not possible to look at the EU a a cohesive functioning place.

It doesn't matter what I think, its really best you do your own research and learn about it and come to the knowledge in your own way.

It is a simple question, stop waffling.

^^ ha! Why dont you stop asking the question and simply do your own research

OMG Gloria, I assume you have seen the papers this week, the neo-nazi clashes in Germany, the brawling in Paris. This country is nothing like that and I find your comment about it being 'not too late to save the country' very insulting.

Isn't it? Every time I go online I see Leave voters threatening violence if they don't get their way.

God this is tedious.

If you truly believed in your own research you'd shout it from the rooftops.

I've read the myths about the accounts never being signed off blah, blah blah and it's bollocks.

What makes you conclude the EU is any more corrupt than the government?

She read it in the DM QED.

No, not threatening violence if they don't get their way but yes I can see unrest for sure if the decision is overturned.

Yes I agree its tedious But since the vote has gone the way of Brexit I truly feel its best you look for yourself to see why people may have voted leave. BUT there is no point looking with prejudice, you have to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
You can't read stuff and declare...its nonsense its not reality!

Yes but autumn your representatives are going to have to justify and debate the reasons for and methods of leaving and now you are shitting yourselves because you don't know the answers to the questions so you're more then a little concerned that there actually are no answers,

Just google 'EU corruption' people, plenty of nice bed time reading there.

Night night.

But the answers are so long, and you wouldnt listen to it from me. As surfer suggests just try looking some stuff up.

No probs,.

Clearly neither of you have an actual opinion if your own.

As ^gloria* said QED

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