'The Brexit Arms' is now open. Friendly cosy pub with log fire for leavers & remainers to chat & ponder life, the universe, & Brexit.

[surferjet]

You are all most welcome

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

It would be nice if it was a different approach, I agree.

[Bearbehind]

And I was condemned for saying some Leavers posted 'inane twaddle' on another thread

This is on a completely different level, one which I find so bizarre I really can't comprehend it.

This doesn't go away by making it all jokey in a virtual pub you know.

[surferjet]

I'm confident this thread will work.
I'll tell you the truth here, on all other Brexit threads I've gone into them expecting a verbal battering, so I've been constantly in 'defence' mode which makes it really difficult to actually listen to what remainers are saying. If that makes sense?

[WinchesterWoman]

I hope so noeuf I hope the current bristling will be tempered by pragmatism. One German figure who previously said normal trade deAls would be possible is now saying no: even though that would be at the expense of the German car industry and thousands offer man jobs, which he acknowledged. The reaso nIs the long term preservation of the Eu and the problem of the rest of Europe watching us do well on exit.

[WinchesterWoman]

Yes surfer I do: for example I can see issues that lie ahead but being attacked incessantly for stupid things that aren't true (racism, greed) means you are batting those off all the time and not talking about other stuff.

[LittleHoHum]

Ye Olde English Local Mead please.

It will be the only thing I will be able to afford once the drink makers pass on the cost of the European ingredients (falling pound). Luckily I like mead and may start home production.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/eu-referendum-brexit-prices-cost-11508968

[WinchesterWoman]

Someone said on another thread that compared to the euro the pound has not skipped as sharply. You might be able to afford a glass of Beaujolais after all

[ClaudiaApfelstrudel]

can I have a half litre of guiness please?

[Bearbehind]

surfer you actually crack me up.

I find it weirdly fascinating that you're so convinced you've made the right choice based on a completely self confessed lack of knowledge or interest in the economy.

You will probably need to be a bit more serious if you actually want anyone to engage with you because dumbing this down quite so much is a very odd strategy.

I'll bow out for now and let you Leavers all discuss how good it will be but I'll be back when I need a top up of the happy juice you're on

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

....settles down with my happy juice....

[twofingerstoGideon]

bloody 'you're all racist thickos' comments
the 'you're all racist thickos' comments that nobody has made? FFS.

Thick&Thin - what's wrong with bungalows? Nothing. Just painting a picture of the leave campaigners around my way, as evidenced by all the Vote Leave/UKIP posters in their windows. I feel we've been fed a bit of a line about many Leave voters being hard-up, disenfranchised north-easterners etc., all of which feeds nicely into the rhetoric about remainers being 'elitists'. Round my way it's the comfortably-off, retired Home Counties types and local landowners who supported Brexit.

[surferjet]

Yes, I agree, most people I know who voted leave are very comfortable, well educated southerners.

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

whats wrong with bungalows

They are a bit short ...i think they all want to be houses when they grow up

My house wants to be a four storey georgian mansion when it grows up

I bloody wish it would get on with it ...i have got nowhere to put the Ha Ha

[Boffered1]

As I north easterner it's not a line you're being fed. A lot of the leave voters I know here are hard up and are disenfranchised.

[surferjet]

Oh yes Bof I know, just saying that not all the 17 million are hard up & disenfranchised, but yes, a fair proportion are.

[Bearbehind]

Ok, I need happy juice already.

boffered I'm genuinely intrigued why you think the leavers you know are happy aligning themselves with the likes of surfer who are rich southerners who what for nothing.

Why do you think their vote and hers are to achieve the same goal?

[surferjet]

Sit down Bear & get drunk with the rest of us.

[TheElementsSong]

An interesting experiment, this thread. Looking slightly ill tempered so far.

Can I have something non-alcoholic please? And absolutely nothing pumpkin flavoured. I have RSI from carving fecking pumpkins. My house smells of pumpkin. My clothes smell of pumpkin. My hair smells of pumpkin 🎃

[SouthWestmom]

bloody 'you're all racist thickos' comments
the 'you're all racist thickos' comments that nobody has made? FFS.

Oh come off it Gideon, every thread on MN re the referendum can be summarised as remainers basically reducing leavers to one or the other or both.

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

element

We are putting light up balloons in the pumpkins

An interesting experiment

[Bearbehind]

surfer if you want to be quite so spaced out there's plenty of places for that- this section of MN is not one of them.

This is a serious subject, stop being so juvenile about it.

I actually can't believe you find it appropriate to let people know you're loaded but you know that your fellow voters are hard up and disenfranchised- It sticks in my throat and I truly don't understand why others accept that.

[Boffered1]

I think i have the same goal as surfer in that i want to leave the EU. I am not really interested in the difference in our personal financial positions.

[Bearbehind]

That really interesting boffered, why do you think we'll be better off outside the EU?

[StorminaBcup]

I'll just pop in for one; hoping to hear one tiny factual positive thing about brexit that stands up to scrutiny!

Don't think much of the bar man though.

[twofingerstoGideon]

Oh come off it Gideon, every thread on MN re the referendum can be summarised as remainers basically reducing leavers to one or the other or both.
Okay. I seem to have got embroiled in a conversation with the surly one that props up the bar and spouts their own belligerent version of 'facts'.
I'm out.