To urge you to write to your MP today if you wish to remain

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The margin by which Leave won is too small to base such a huge decision on. This needs to be debated further especially now it's clear many people based their decision on misrepresentations made by Brexit campaigners on immigration and spending on NHS or made a protest vote.

Johnson is continuing with the myths claiming Britain will still be in Europe. Of course we will be geographically but that's all!

The referendum was advisory and not legally binding. If you want to stay in the EU please email your MP today.

Done!
Thanks so much for sharing your letter earlier today on this thread MyLettertoMP

Scotland has a very legitimate complaint about the referendum arrangements failing to reflect the devolution settlement; but I can't see how that makes any difference at European level.

Maybe, maybe not. All bets are currently off. But I'm pretty sure another IndyRef will happen and Scotland may well leave the UK, EU or no EU. NI has a whole heap of nastiness to wade through now. I seriously worry about what that is going to spark off again. Plaid Cymri has put Welsh independence on their list, but...well...I'd be surprised!

Leave the EU - leavers who voted on the basis of tighter immigration rules and more money for services hacked off, fascists who voted on the basis of deporting immigrants hacked off, 48% of the voting electorate hacked off. Very possible break-up of the UK, Scotland at least.

Remain in the EU - 52% of voting electorate hacked off, Farage begins endless tirade of bile hacking off the 48%.

We're screwed either way.

And Cameron, whose ridiculous, dangerous idea this all was, has just gone shrug, lol, bye.

That's the point though, what people like rum are posting is not true, it is hyperbole. It is project fear, round 2.
Enjoy your blinkers and negativity in the echo chamber of the Internet, I'm off to bed.

keepinrunning Maybe this would help crystallise some thoughts?

My MP was one of the Labour lot that's resigned, no idea where that leaves me right now!

La la la project fear la la.
What future for a country whose people think in soundbites? It has never been clearer to me how profoundly decadent we have become. We have just lost all ability to behave like serious people. How has this happened?

[Grin]must have imagined my first in International Law from Russell Group uni! Never mind the postgrad thesis I wrote on crimes against humanity, and the frankly harrowing research that entailed. Or the work I have done to support the poorest and most vulnerable in society since.
No you are right I am simply not qualified to comment.

Theorchard

But the Remain camp care about everyone, including all of Europe. They are worried about everyone losing their job and everyone losing money, aren't they?

Or are they actually only interested in their jobs, in large companies and businesses, cushy jobs in finance. Are they only actually interested in their finances, their savings, stocks and shares, private pensions.

Or are they only interested in Europe because that too is focussed on finance and spreading wealth to the richer members of society.

Where were these people in 2008/09 when the poorest people lost their jobs, their homes. Because of people in Finance, who remain unpunished! What about the people in Greece who have lost everything because of the EU, massive unemployment in Italy, Spain and Greece.

When did the remain people shout, "Hey people are losing their jobs and homes". They didn't because they were alright.

Exactly. The EU has failed so many people in Europe, and I cannot understand how people cannot see this, how they can continue with their blind assertions that we must be part of this awful political organisation that screws over and then ignores the people it purports to represent. When I voted leave, it was not just for the UK it was for the disenfranchised across the EU. We tried to change the EU from the inside, it didn't work, this was the only way to drive much needed change.

AuntDotsie, your MP has not resigned as an MP, just a member of the shadow cabinet.

I know that First, I was talking more in terms of what kind of reply I can expect when, what kind of power or influence and stance he's likely to have now, what this whole Labour implosion will mean over the coming months - in general and for constituents - that sort of thing.

Has anyone else seen this? Now who's racist?
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Bloody hell! That video is seriously weird. I don't think it is possible to list the many ways it is just wrong!

... and may be good evidence of the truth of that EU Army

wordgirl

Asprilla11 you've made me rather angry there - yes, I care a hell of a lot about all those things, but the rest of the population keep swallowing tabloid crap and voting Tory, and democracy! so there's fuck all I can do.

Well, I can do stuff, I campaign politically and on single issues, I write to my MP, I sign petitions; but one poster of Ed MIliband in Alex Salmond's pocket and suddenly it's best to elect the party that has consistently crapped all over the poor, the disabled, the NHS, the regions...

So don't give me that "I'm all right Jack" shit. Because I do care.

OMG at that video, I am truly

I note that it's a few years old, but still,

Isn't it telling that the same people who are quite happy to give away our sovereignty to unelected officials are the same people who are now undermining democracy in the UK by suggesting we ignore the result of the referendum. Coincidence?

caitlinohara you've hit the nail on the head.

What does sovereignty mean day to day ? It's just political jargon.

EU parliament is elected. God knows, someone elected Farage in there

MEPs are elected. Commissioners, who hold the real power, are not.

Wonder how many people bothered to vote for their MEP

If not many people have voted for their MEP it's probably because MEPs are so distanced from people in everyday life. For example, I don't think I've ever seen anything written by my MEP, or about them, locally. We hear a lot about what the MP and council are doing though.