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This is what the leave vote has validated

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SocksRock · 25/06/2016 22:33

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I voted remain. I'm ashamed of brin British right now.

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Fuzzywuzzywasabear · 26/06/2016 10:19

It's been this racist but people had the good grace to keep it to themselves on the most part however now we have normal couples out for dinner casually abusing the person serving them. We didn't have that before the referendum.

We've regressed to the 80s it's so sad and terrifying at the same time.

How long before the polish, Asian and black communities start lashing out at the white communities in retaliation for white attacks verbal or otherwise.

I'll probably get called chicken lickin but there has been a definite change in mood throughout the country and I don't think it's going to get better anytime soon especially with lots of people sticking their heads in the sand.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 11:06

It is scary to think we have given a voice and political legitimacy to the far right - did none of the people who voted leave bother to check what UKIP really stand for of who their members are

Bloody hell. The political illiteracy on MN this week is scary.

  1. An out vote was NOT a vote for UKIP.

  2. There was a whole subset of out voters like myself who voted out because we are extreme leftwingers; left of the Labour Party, Marxist, Socialist, Anti-Nazi League kind of far left. We're the kind of people who have actively been opposing the EDL wherever they are for decades.

Some of you REALLY need to grasp the nuance of this.

Fuzzywuzzywasabear · 26/06/2016 11:15

You need to stop ignoring the fact your vote to leave has legitimised right wing racist views whether you meant it to or not.

InShockReally · 26/06/2016 11:16

How do you feel Dacre about the things which racists HAVE said because they think they've voted people out?

Egosumquisum · 26/06/2016 11:21

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Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 11:22

How do you feel Dacre about the things which racists HAVE said because they think they've voted people out?

I think it's awful. I think that it's exactly what that minority of people have always done. I'm wondering if anyone has mapped these incidents. Where the hotspots are. If EDL of BF are involved. And I'm waiting to find out if the ANL or others have anything planned.

The sooner the uncertainty is over, the better. Because Racists and criminals will take advantage.

You need to stop ignoring the fact your vote to leave has legitimised right wing racist views whether you meant it to or not.

But it's NOT legitimate. STOP using the word legitimate. How is it legitimate? Racism is never legitimate. Can you hear yourself Fuzzy?

user1466690252 · 26/06/2016 11:24

There needs to be a stand against them. I would like to see leave voted come together against this racist underbelly. You were very vocal about your right to vote leave, these people are hijacking your argument and now everyone wants to turn a blind eye. We make this better. By showing there is more good than bad and this is not wanted.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 11:25

FFS - people have not said that. I am getting pissed off with the derailing from people who do say that.

Ego look at the point I was responding to.

This vote has encouraged racists to come 'out of the closet'. You can either say 'well, I voted leave and I'm not racist' or you can try and listen to those people who are concerned and who have experienced and increase in racism.

I'm one of the people concerned. See above. But my long history is anti-racism activism (again see above) so I'm going to get on with that again IRL today.

Egosumquisum · 26/06/2016 11:25

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user1466690252 · 26/06/2016 11:26

(Obviously everyone needs to come together both sides of the EU debate im meaning leave need to start this unity in order to distance themselves from this)

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 11:27

2) There was a whole subset of out voters like myself who voted out because we are extreme leftwingers; left of the Labour Party, Marxist, Socialist, Anti-Nazi League kind of far left. We're the kind of people who have actively been opposing the EDL wherever they are for decades.

This^ is what I said if you missed it Ego

And that will be my RL response.

RaeSkywalker · 26/06/2016 11:27

Not all Leave voters are racists, not by a trillion miles. However, this vote has given legitimacy to the views of those that are.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 11:28

(As in I'm getting offline to see what can be DONE)

Egosumquisum · 26/06/2016 11:29

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smallfox1980 · 26/06/2016 11:30

Extreme left wingers who voted out are turkeys voting for Christmas, you will get the opposite of what you want.

When the bonfire of employment regulations happens, I hope you congratulate yourself on being so ideologically stubborn that you let down the working classes.

Fuzzywuzzywasabear · 26/06/2016 11:30

I hear myself telling my husband to be careful when he's out because there are so many idiots out there who now think it's acceptable to voice their views a conversation I didn't feel the need to have with him 3 days ago.

BeagBoo · 26/06/2016 11:31

Lexiters have my contempt more than the rest. You were either too stupid to see this would happen or else you knew and didn't care and were happy to throw immigrants here under the bus and increase misery while you still claimed the moral high ground.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 11:32

Just trying to clarify for you who you're arguing with Ego Smile

MuddhaOfSuburbia · 26/06/2016 11:33

Phone up spout placemarking

I want to find out what we can DO

user1466690252 · 26/06/2016 11:41

Placemarking as I want to know what we can do aswell? A unite movement is needed

birdsdestiny · 26/06/2016 11:44

You can be as outraged as you like. We (remainers) have to put up with the leave vote, and accept the consequences. Therefore leave voters have to accept the consequences of their vote. One of the consequences is that many many people think this vote has legitimised the far right. You can't control what we think.

JudyCoolibar · 26/06/2016 11:50

We've regressed to the 80s it's so sad and terrifying at the same time.

More like the 30s, to be honest.

JudyCoolibar · 26/06/2016 11:58

An out vote was NOT a vote for UKIP.

I'm sure it wasn't, but try telling UKIP that.

Just5mins, when you put your cross on that piece of paper, it wasn't nuanced: you didn't get the chance to explain that you have major anti-EDL motivation. And you certainly didn't get the chance to explain that to the EDL, who were inevitably going to claim to be validated by your decision.

Yes, of course they were always racist. The problem, which you cannot deny, is that since the referendum result they have been happy to express their racism much more openly and aggressively. Frankly, you going and telling them that that isn't what you meant is not going to make one iota of difference: you can't now put the genie back in the bottle.

And you accuse other people of political illiteracy!

Room101isWhereIUsedToLive · 26/06/2016 11:58

Racial abuse is a hate crime prosecutable by law. If people are hurling racist abuse they should be reported to the police. The leave vote hasn't changed the law.

MeMySonAndl · 26/06/2016 12:00

It seems we have gone 20 years back in the space of a few hours.

But do not be so surprised, most of us foreigners have experienced similar at some point in our times in Britain. You simply don't know who are the racists in your office, street and family because their hate is not directed towards you.

I used to work with the NHS with retired people, at some point my boss decided that it was unfair for me to be at the receiving end of such level of bigotry that swapped my role so a local person dealt with them instead. It was incredibly the amount of racism mild mannered sweet looking grannies could spit out.

Having said that, 99% of the British people I know are wonderful and accepting of differences, but go to a pub in a small village and it won't be long before you get those remarks (if they agree to serve you) obviously, this doesn't happen in highly touristic little villages.ll

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