This is what the leave vote has validated

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I voted remain. I'm ashamed of brin British right now.

It is scary to think we have given a voice and political legitimacy to the far right - did none of the people who voted leave bother to check what UKIP really stand for of who their members are
Any poles in my vicinity are welcome - I will put the kettle on!

As a direct result of the leave vote, the union Jack is being used by le pen to promote fascism in Europe. It's not perceived merely as an incidental link by the international political community.

It is that simple.

I for one am relieved that this once-great symbol looks likely to become obsolete as another direct outcome of the leave vote prompting another Scottish referendum. Something I never thought I'd say.

This is no time for a responsibility bypass

Fuzzy what's scary is that my husband is white so the other guy assumed that he'd agree with him and join in. He was at work or else he'd have mentioned having a mixed-race wife but a twat like that isn't worth getting sacked for

Racists will use anything to justify their conduct.

But they weren't behaving so blatantly before the referendum result came out, were they?

As for what we're going to do about it - well, I guess we should ask Farage, Gove and Johnson: they knew damn well that this would happen, maybe they have a plan. But they seem to be keeping their heads well down, don't they?

I posted the album to my Facebook. An out voter has commented that 'them that voted out are getting the same abuse'. I'm speechless.

Kummerspeck, don't be silly. Do you seriously believe that teachers hearing children being taunted are doing nothing about it and are dashing off to post on Facebook instead? That really is taking the ostrich mentality to ludicrous lengths. The trouble is that they can't be everywhere, and they can't do anything about what children are hearing outside school. Plus, as a child, if your classmates are repeatedly telling you with glee that you and your family are going to have to leave and they can't wait for that to happen, a teacher reassuring you that you won't is really not going to help.

Only read the OP.

Most of the people being abusive probably didnt vote, but are using the result as an excuse to show off their racism thinking that it is now sanctioned. They couldnt be more wrong.

I voted leave, as did my black husband who's mother came here in 1960. Immigration was not on our list of reasons why, but I doubt that that will stop anyone accusing me of being racist or of racially abusing him.

Not in my name.

Not everyone who voted leave was racist. But everyone who is racist vote leave.

This is everything i was afraid of and needs to be stopped asap

Sorry, haven't read the full thread. I expect I will be flamed for this, I will be told to calm down and get a grip. On Friday afternoon after the vote DS had his end of year concert at school. We live in Paris, he goes to a school with children of many nationalities. There they were on stage, children from all around the world, but mainly from Europe, singing together and laughing together. His best friend is Japanese, they speak French together, we lived in Italy for six years so DS speaks Italian and translates between his Itialian friends and his Japanese friend. They speak around 20 languages between them in a class of 13, they play together, they translate for each other, they all love the diversity. They all have the usual school ups and downs, but never do they discriminate because one is Ukrainian, or one is Slovakian, or one is American. Watching them singing together I could have cried for the UK voting out, at 10 years old they have something that the UK seems to have lost entirely. They are the future, and the way they view the world is how the future should be, but how can it be for children in the UK who are growing up in such xenophobic world. The out vote has brought much uncertainty for us, but even so I would much rather be living here than in the UK at the moment. Sorry if this is the wrong thread to post this.

It isn't the wrong thread at all. It is brilliant to hear your story, PP, and thank you for posting it. My sons best friends are from South Korea, and many of the kids in their class are from South Africa, Cuba and UK and all seem to great on brilliantly, there is always hope in the future!

You don't need to get a grip LeMesmer, you are completely correct, that is how the future should be.

I saw, and shared, those comments earlier. I'm ashamed to be British. I'm sick of hearing all the Leave voters saying they're not racist. Almost every Leave voter that has been interviewed has said they voted out because of immigration. One bloke said he voted out to get rid of Muslims. He said he didn't mind the Eurpoeans he didn't want the Muslims. That's thick as shit and racist and he's not the only one.

So many people wanted to go back to the past, well we have. We've gone back to a time when people thought it was ok to insult, abuse and harm others due to their race or nationality. Alf Garnett will be on the bloody tele next.

I'm disgusted.

Le Mesmer, that is beautiful, thank you for sharing. It sounds very reminiscent of my own school. As does yours, p33kab00.
I experienced exactly what OP is talking about on Fri, when someone I know well and has been seeing almost weekly, sometimes daily, in a professional context for nearly 15 years and whom I was once in a position to help in a very significant and, at the time, by her own admission, a life-changing way. She pointed out that my DC (born in the UK) and I were lucky to be nice immigrants, and we'd have "something to think about" in the months to come. I was so surprised I didn't know what to say, she sounded so pleased.

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I do think however racism is also being encouraged by the hysteria and panic whipped up and perpetuated by Remain voters who do not want to accept a democratic decision. I have read several posts about children crying at school, afraid they will be sent away but it appears that teachers and other adults would sooner post it to FB than reassure them that there have been statements that people currently here will not have to go anywhere. They are happy to let that distress continue to further their own agenda

kummer Where the heck did you get that from? I've posted about my students being distressed, also that I reassured them. Do I have to explain that I spent the first half of my lesson talking about what the referendum meant, why people voted leave or remain, that my students and their families were very valued, that sometimes children parrot what they hear from other sources without thinking how it may hurt others, that people who say hurtful things will be punished, why it's not ok for people to say hurtful things, who to tell if it happens to you, where to go for support. I let them ask all the questions they needed to and we tried to finish on a positive note. I then investigated who had made the comments and arranged suitable punishment for them for next week, while also trying to arrange a special assembly to stamp this out before it can happen again.

I didn't think I needed to type all that as it should be pretty obvious to anyone with a heart that that's what you would do, also I don't really think posters are interested in the minutiae of my classroom Every other teacher in the school who has been faced with the same problem has dealt with it in an equally in depth way. Who the fuck would even distress children to further an agenda? Well, apart from the people directing racist comments at children perhaps

I'm feeling anxious. I'm mixed race. West Indian and English white. And Muslim too. (since 2009)The only muslim within my biological family as all other family members are either Christian, atheist or rasta. So I stand out as an 'other' despite uk born and raised for obvious reasons. What gets me is my own (English) mother voted 'independence' 'liberation ' and since the results, has ramped up voicing her vitriol against 'non-English' but with Muslims especially, even going as far as saying get them all out as they've no place in our country or society. Erm, hello. Your grandchildren, your daughter? What did we do to you that was so bad to warrant comments like that..? So to hear this from my own mother as it relates to my life choice, then I've no hope for Mr/s joe bloggs around town. This vote has made for an allowance for hate and intolerance. I'm sticking close to home for the immediate time.

Sorry.. My post is all over the place! Half awake with dream feeding baby next me. You get the picture.

"I am saying 17 million people are not racists therefore how can their vote be seen as validating this awful behaviour."

Wake up an smell the chees you are in denial.

We knew this would happen, I have a polish friend who has been ostracised in her small village and was practically in tears when I rang her Friday. I will have her ds for part of the summer because she doesn't want him picking up on the toxic atmosphere.

Yy Ego. The Daily Mail comment section has been eye-rolled at for years but it's been there, insidiously creeping into minds and encouraging them into thinking it's acceptable and normal and indeed admirable.

It's a world away from "my" experiences and beliefs. It was much more comforting when I could consign it to "people just being arseholes on the Internet". Nope - they're real and these are their actual beliefs. I don't know how you can reconcile the two.

This is the sort of thing which might have led to a civil war in the old days. It kind of feels like one now.

There has to be a way to make it stop. Its terrifying

Oh its been this racist for years, how have people not noticed?

You only have to scratch the surface to get to it.

Thee onnly way to stop it is to challenge it, iif you hear a racist remark on the street pull em up on it. Talk to your dcs, make them know its not acceptable.

I agree gowgirl and intend to do so. I'm fortunate that in my community it isn't very prevalent. Bur I really hope everyone starts to.make things better

I ended up hanging up on my mum Friday morning when she rang back I asked here why she was channelling Oswald. Mosley