This is what the leave vote has validated

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I voted remain. I'm ashamed of brin British right now.

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Incidents of Racial Hate Speech / Mailicious Communications (in person and online) jumps 540% in 36 hours.

There are no words.

People aren't saying that voting leave has legitimised racism. They are saying that voting leave has made the people who are racist think that they can now express their racist views publicly. That is what we're trying to say. We know that not all leave voters are racist - but for those leaver voters who are also racist, this result has made them think it's OK to tell people to 'go home' etc. They think that this result means that they have the right to say these things. That they are right. That everyone else thinks like that too. What we need now is strong leadership to stop this - but as far as I can see all the leaders have run away.

Well said Judy

One of the first things parliament could do is legislate to make Britain First an illegal organisation and therefore have their political platforms removed from Facebook and other social media.

80s mum is that actually possible!

Dh was in in the local shop yesterday, with the 2 DC, who are 8 and 7, just after school, so about half three. The shop is ran by an Asian family, and some drunken fool wandered in and shouted at the man behind the counter "yay, we voted leave, now fuck off out of our country"

I myself voted remain, however, I do not for one second think that all those that voted leave are racist, the vast majority of the British Public are tolerant, leave or remain, HOWEVER what this seems to have done, for the minority (and oh how I hope it is a small tiny minority, but I worry not) of those intolerant bigots is give them free reign to shout their intolerance to the world as they now believe they have a legitimised allowed viewpoint. A legitimised hatred.

Something does need to happen. I am genuinely saddened we voted leave, it is not what I wanted, but it is done. What is done is done. We need to come together to stop the bigots and not allow it to stand.

If you voted leave, for whatever reason, you can say in life why you voted leave for any number of valid reasons, but not on the ballot paper. It is simply a vote for leave. But that leads to be the leave vote being hijacked by groups like BNP or Britain First and their ilk and supporters, as they can start spouting, "oh look 52% of the population want to take our country back from the foreigners blah blah blah" Now that is clearly not correct. But they dont care. It is just a figure they can use to try and legitimise their "cause"

Did you say anything to the drunken idiot? Did you tell the Asian family that they are welcome and most people don't feel like that?

80s mum unfortunately in a free and democratic society they are entitled to their opinion I don't believe making it illegal is the solution. If we stop free speech however much we disagree with what they are saying it makes us as bad if not worse than them.

birdsdestiny You have summed it up. "You can't control what we think."

That is the problem and it is why we have more racism now than we ever had in the 80s and 90s. People who raised perfectly legitimate concerns about immigration were called bigots, racists and the rest of it, so for the most part they didn't say what they really thought, probably because they thought they would be prosecuted and all the consequences that would follow. Then the Left kidded themselves that we were a happy multi-cultural society when in fact a lot of anger was just below the surface.

We have all read in the past couple of years about people ranting against Muslims on buses and trains in London. Those people haven't just been white; they have been black as well, probably born in London and feeling just as British as white people. The fact that they have started to rant shows that they are very frustrated about mass immigration and sometimes are so angry they cannot control their feelings. I am not condoning this. I am simply stating a fact.

user1466690252 Sun 26-Jun-16 12:21:54
Did you say anything to the drunken idiot? Did you tell the Asian family that they are welcome and most people don't feel like that?

Me? Well no, since if you read it you will see that I said DH was in the shop. Not me. And he most certainly did say something.

Although if it had been me on my own with the children, I may have hesitated to say anything to a drunken confrontational man, when I am on my own with the children. Dh who is 6ft 2 (and hence a ft taller than me) and a rugby player thankfully has no such hesitation. So would that be alright with you?

This makes me so sad :( I'm not English (Norwegian), and my son is mixed English and Norwegian. I now feel scared to speak Norwegian in public, in case anyone decides it's not acceptable. My accent doesn't give me away, and I am white, so I can easily blend in as English. However, I want my son to be happy about his roots and his heritage, not scared to be judged over it. This worries me a lot.

Yes yes, that 80s sentiment feeling. There'll be Paki Bashing next.

You voted Leave and now you are telling Northlurker and others to get of her arse and do something??

Basically since Friday the Leave have been asking the rest of us to sort out the English pound, to stop the big companies rellocating abroad, to clean the mess and to stop racism.
Okaaay. We 'll get off our arses then and move our magic wards.
Because oh the poor lambs didn't know what they are votting.

THE BEST CURE IS PREVENTION!!
Yes i am shouting.

Basically when you vote you aim to prevent the worst. Have you??

How to repair the damage?
Answer: Don't fucking cause the damage!!!

Wow that was really aggressive!! I was asking did you say anything? Out of interest? I see now it was dh but again I was simply asking did you say anything? I don't live in an area where this is prevalent, so I was asking about general reaction. I was going to congratulate you, or you dh or whatever, and say thank you as it was a brave thing to do and im proud and pleased with have people willing to speak up. Bur if your gunna be an arse about it crack on?!

Validating the intolerant racists.

User, you might want to change your username. Lots of goady fuckers on the forum at the moment using temporary names like yours - you're more likely to be misinterpreted. I think I need to change mine back but can't on threads where I've already spoken on this one!

user1466690252 Sun 26-Jun-16 12:41:14
Wow that was really aggressive!! I was asking did you say anything? Out of interest? I see now it was dh but again I was simply asking did you say anything? I don't live in an area where this is prevalent, so I was asking about general reaction. I was going to congratulate you, or you dh or whatever, and say thank you as it was a brave thing to do and im proud and pleased with have people willing to speak up. Bur if your gunna be an arse about it crack on?!

And I took your question as rather confrontational. But that is what happens with words on a screen.

Maybe I am rather sensitive at the moment. I live in Birmingham (the vote in Brum was particularly close) and in particular in an area that has a large Polish Community. They also have, given the 2 pubs near me, a sizeable group of drunken idiots like the one in my OP.

I walked to school on Fri morning, with the mother of my daughters best friend, who is Italian, and her husband is Polish. She has spent most of the morning crying. She was telling me she had generally found the UK tolerant, compared to where she is from in Italy, which as she was telling me, as a country is rather more obviously racist (not sure how true, but that was her experience.)

In general, it just feels a bit tense and edgy round here at the moment. And as such probably has me tense and edgy. And I clearly took you question in the wrong "tone" and responded accordingly. So for that I apologise.

I still probably would have hesitated to say something on my own with the children.

That is the problem and it is why we have more racism now than we ever had in the 80s and 90s. People who raised perfectly legitimate concerns about immigration were called bigots, racists and the rest of it, so for the most part they didn't say what they really thought, probably because they thought they would be prosecuted and all the consequences that would follow. Then the Left kidded themselves that we were a happy multi-cultural society when in fact a lot of anger was just below the surface.

Actually, no. What happened was that, all over the place, you saw comments like "I can't say what I really think about immigration because I'll be called a racist" and, frankly, you knew that what they really thought was racist. Now they feel that the brakes are off.

"You were very vocal about your right to vote leave, these people are hijacking your argument and now everyone wants to turn a blind eye. We make this better. By showing there is more good than bad and this is not wanted."

Quite, not that it would make much of a difference though. Isn't this the type of things xenophobes and racists demand the Muslim community in the UK do, whenever there is talk about ISIS? As in take an official stance against Muslim extremism? So non-racist Brexiters, organise ourselves and start your peace demos.