This is what the leave vote has validated

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I voted remain. I'm ashamed of brin British right now.

Was this terrible shit bubbling under the surface the whole time?

I would say yes, just that people have got more confident to use blatantly coded language or even just say it out loud rather than instead of in selected conversations, being on best behavior at work etc same with sexism.

This is one of political correctness's failings has been to drive it under the surface.

I mean what the hell was up with those people letterboxing polish "vermin" to go home. People and the DC's getting to see this this stuff in their house WTAF

"*Increase in racist attacks from emboldened knuckle-draggers? Good grief, we had absolutely no idea that would happen, there wasn't a single hint of it during the campaign "

The usual 'argument' is racism was always there and has not been amplified by the Brexit campaign and it is the Leavers who are shouting racist to further their own political arguments. or that's at least what I have read so far on MN.

*it is the remainers who are shouting racist

You can deny it all you like, but when the leave campaign has posters of refugees with the slogan breaking point on it. When they repeated again and again and again about infrastructure suffering due to immigration, when they made it one their key policies to "control" immigration.

Honestly you don't think this gives validation to those who have racist views? The leave campaign made scapegoats of immigrants, you can back peddle all you like, but it was the campaign that you backed.

And a remain vote by a narrow majority would have brought out these same racists who instead would be uproarious that we cant get rid of people...

Either way this vote would have aroused those feeling is such small minded people.

I agree, but it would still have been laid at the door of the remain camp,

To be fair, whatever shape Brexit takes (or doesn't take), it's hugely unlikely anyone will be kicked out, and pretty likely free movement will remain. In which case a lot of not very nice people are going to feel very betrayed. Which can only end well.

Although, anecdotally, quite a few immigrants (generally from the richer EU countries) have seen what the Leave campaign said about them, watched it win, and decided to piss off home anyway.

In which case a lot of not very nice people are going to feel very betrayed. Which can only end well.

I trust the tabloid press to distract them from that truth.

the leave campaign has posters of refugees with the slogan breaking point on it

No, UKIP put up that disgraceful poster. The official Leave campaign were horrified and distanced themselves from it immediately.

All part of the leave side though, distance yourself all you like. Also the leave campagn had "Turkey is joining the EU"

Lets put the £350 million back into the NHS etc.

Basically you were dishonest and stirred emotions from the start.

Blame at your door.

Basically you were dishonest and stirred emotions from the start.

The EU is undemocratic and secretive, and the remainers have been dishonest and manipulative.

The smear attempts, trying to associate so many ordinary, moderate voters with racism. Project Fear in all its guises. The bullying attitude from certain EU leaders. Pretending that controlling your own borders isn't what most ordinary countries do, and that it will mean zero immigration and all EU citizens ejected from the country, when actually it would be an Australian-style points system which no longer discriminates against non-EU citizens. Osborne's ridiculous and disingenuous £4300 claim. EU laws overriding ours. EU decisions made in secret trilogues.

Thank goodness enough people have seen through it all.

This stuff hasn't been under the surface all the time. It's been manufactured by a right wing press using divide and rule tactics to gain power.

The factually incorrect, racist message that immigrants are the problem has been broadcast loud and clear to anyone reading the right wing press over the last few years.

See these Daily Express headlines for example. Drip drip drip of the same message again and again.

Plus organisations like Britain First are pretty active on social media.

And we have a backdrop of austerity, people are suffering and they are being directed to a convenient scapegoat.

Osborne's ridiculous and disingenuous £4300 claim.

That claim was originally made by Arron Banks from UKIP, and he regarded it as a price worth paying: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/millionaire-aaron-banks-says-4300-7782726

Shall I explain the £4,300 claim its easy.

They looked at a situation in which the UK would have the same deal as Canada.

They then looked at GDP predictions for both remaining in the EU, and on the deal from Canada.

They then used GDP per capita to divide both predictions up.

They then multiplied it by the size of the average household in the UK currently and came up with the figure and looked at the difference.

Its a projection, based on available data. Still not an outright lie like the £350 million, or £600 million a week figures .

That claim was originally made by Arron Banks from UKIP

The article you've linked to just says what Arron Banks thinks of the Treasury report that made the claim. It doesn't say he initiated the figure himself.

Here's why Osborne's claims don't add up:

The deceptions behind George Osborne’s Brexit report

Umm, I didn't need the spectator blog to tell you how they came up with it A4, I know, you see some us understand economics.

As I said its still far more accurate a figure and more honestly arrived at than £350 million a week sent to Brussles, or the £600 million a week costs.