PETITION FOR A SECOND REFERENDUM - 1 million + signatures already

[GertrudeBelle]

A parliamentary petition has been created calling for a second referendum. As I type, it already has 1,061,466 signatures and the number is growing rapidly so it will have to be taken seriously.

I would urge everyone who is concerned about the consequences of yesterday's result to sign it. It only takes a minute. Get your friends and family to sign too.

Link here:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

There's also a map showing the location of the signatories. There are some key Remain territories which don't seem to have picked this up - particularly Scotland and Northern Ireland. Please spread the word. Map here:

petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=131215

Hasn't the petition been officially binned?

Just been looking at images from the anti-Brexit demo in Trafalgar Square, and interested to see so very many young people there

Given the 25% turnout among the 18-25s, I wonder how many them bothered to vote?

They were too busy getting pissed at Glastonbury - now that's over they're all massive revolutionaries < yawn >

Was the turn out that low for the 18-25 age group

How disappointing

How disappointing

You're right, it is - and that 25% figure's from gov.uk itself

How curious that you never see it mentioned when folk rant and froth about how Brexiters "wrecked the future for the young"

4 million! Keep going - This is important. Plenty of people are realising that they have been lied to.

Many of those names on the petition have given false postcodes and many are from abroad. I guess many more zealots have added name sof family members without their permission.

A petition is nothing more than a crude indicator that some are pissed off, and they are, the EU and open borders is an ideology to a significant number of fanatics.

You can sign the petition from abroad if you are a British citizen.

many are from abroad ...

I think I read somewhere that many have come from Antarctica - maybe it's vying with the Vatican City for top spot?

4 million! Keep going - This is important. Plenty of people are realising that they have been lied to.

FFS!

Most leavers feel they were not lied to! I dont feel I was.

The people signing that petition are not disgruntled leavers they are people that voted remain and want to try their luck again by making the idle 18-25 year olds who didnt care enough to vote the first time vote this time.

Whether you feel it or not you were lied to. Why deny it?

I WAS NOT FUCKING LIED TO.

I have been anti EU since I can remember and wanting a referendum for about 10 years.

What is it about the Eu you all think is so fucking fantastic?

The way it handled a crisis: i.e. Greece.

The way unemployment is 50% is the southern Med.

What does the EU actually do for it's citizens other than impose conditions on them?

"I reckon around 2,700 people a signing each minute."

More like 3000 people each signing nine times! Its a farce! It's not comparable to the secret ballot properly counted which was the referendum.

"The people signing that petition are not disgruntled leavers they are people that voted remain and want to try their luck again by making the idle 18-25 year olds who didnt care enough to vote the first time vote this time."

Quite right.
Signing it many times. Spoiled brats who want their own way.

Everyone who signs this campaign should be utterly ashamed that they are attempting to overturn the expressed wishes of their fellow citizens.

The mere fact they are even calling for a second referendum demonstrates their failure to understand or accept the democratic process.

When the only option is your way or no way - that is fascism.

I don't see how it undermines the democratic process when according to British law a referendum is not legally binding. We are exercising our democratic right to protest it. Fascism would be you denying us this as you are trying to do.

Lots of people voted leave because they thought there would be less immigration and more money and that we would be out of Europe. How is it democratic to tell these people that they now have to accept that when they voted 'out' these things would be withdrawn from the table?

Sadly I think the real damage, that of opening the lid on racism and the far right, is now done, and there is no way back.

I didn't realise o was talking to the Farage fan club. I hope your children grow up to be less fuelled by hate.

Speaking of fascism, I've said this before, but the Nazis famously used referenda for their own ends.

1933 Referendum 95% of the electorate voted to leave the League of Nations. It was an extraordinarily popular.

Of course the Geman people didn't actually know what the agenda behind the referendum was, or what the consequences would be.

I've no doubt they would have been very happy directly after the vote though.

For that reason referenda are banned in Germany.

So for those who think referenda are some kind of unassailable democratic tool, they're not. They're a very easily manipulable mob vote.

Considering how close the vote was, the number of people who didn't vote, and the number of people who regret their vote either because it was merely a protecst, or because they didn't grasp the consequences, trying to shut down protest or dissent from such are large is entirely anti-democratic.

You are going to have to get used to the fact that this country will be battling over the results of this vote for the next 10 years.

trying to shut down protest or dissent from such a large proportion is entirely anti-democratic.

Godwin.... tedious...

Jesus you actually don't understand the difference between political history and Godwin?

The fact that Germany cannot hold referenda is of direct relevance to the discussion.

[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship]] , fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.[9][10] Similar criticisms of the "law" (or "at least the distorted version which purports to prohibit all comparisons to German crimes") have been made by Glenn Greenwald.[11]

*missed out the crucial word "Godwin's" at the start of that post - Godwin's law can be abused as a distraction or censorship in cases where it is absolutely appropriate to draw parallels and learn from history...