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To not be able to speak to my near neighbours who voted leave?

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TooMuchCoffeeMakesMeZoom · 24/06/2016 23:43

My children's future has been put at stake. Our economy risks ruin. Our relatively -well-off neighbours in a place with nearly full employment and very low recent immigration (local care companies and NHS are desperate for staff) have voted leave. They are only around fifty.

I'm gobsmacked.

The irony is that the small business they are in is affected by the growth of China as an economic powerhouse. So why on earth do they feel that leaving the EU gives them more power? It gives them less.

I am so angry and feel so let down by my country. These people, and people like them ahem destroyed my hopes for a continued peace in Europe.

How on earth am I expected to talk to them on an equal footing, knowing what they have done through their own greed?

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CremeEggThief · 27/06/2016 23:20

I can deduce who they are from previous things they've said or posted online. It's not hard. And it's rude to directly ask people how they vote, Just5minutes.

PortiaCastis · 27/06/2016 23:21
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ealinggirl2016 · 27/06/2016 23:22

I just wonder would you talk to your neighbours if they go to swingers club, do voodoo or smoke pot? All three activities have very polar attitudes towards it in our society. However, something tells me that you would talk to them still. So why not after Brexit? Legal referendum was held democratically. This referendum was demanded to be carried out for many years previously. Now people had voted and more than half have different opinion to yours. However, isn't it strange that hysterics, scaremongering and insults are thrown in backets towards those who voted out. The more I look at it the more I am happy that 'out' won, as such fascist attitude of 'my way or else' somehow is displayed by 'remain' bunch.

Just5minswithDacre · 27/06/2016 23:25

And it's rude to directly ask people how they vote, Just5minutes

But not rude to 'get rid' of them on the basis of a suspicion? Okay then.

CremeEggThief · 27/06/2016 23:28

Get rid of means deleted from Facebook, which for some reason didn't post before. Of course it's more rude to directly ask someone how they voted than to deduce how they voted by posts they've shared on Facebook.

MangoMoon · 27/06/2016 23:43

I suspect your ex FB chums feel a bit like this....

To not be able to speak to my near neighbours who voted leave?
Achingallover · 28/06/2016 00:53

No, you're completely within your rights to tell the sun reading racists to take a hike. I'd move house if I were you. They've cost you a bloody fortune 😂

AppleSetsSail · 28/06/2016 04:30

Never thought I would ever say this but the sight of a St George flag is starting to make my stomach really turn. Can't stand the sight of it right now amongst the streets of UK.

I'm a Brexiter so am extremely thick & easily led, but someone told me that there was a football tournament on somewhere.

MangoMoon Grin

slgsue1979 · 28/06/2016 06:48

Cremeeggthief my DH assumed I would vote leave because he knows me better than anyone else, so if he was to go by your standards of suspecting people and getting rid of them based on your guess work, he would have destroyed our marriage,............. assumption is the mother of all fuck ups! I wanted to remain ;-)
Be careful who you people alienate you may just be wrong

Iloveowls2 · 28/06/2016 08:50

Really hope the OP has got a grip. It's not a disaster really is it? We've had recessions whilst we are in the EU and we've moved on. Society and political structures change throughout time. It causes a bit of upheaval but generally works out ok in the long run. Or perhaps you would have preferred it had the lords of the land not challenged the status quo and signed the magna Carter. Maybe we should have maintained the status quo and let the king retain absolute power that damn Cromwell. Maybe we should have sat back and let the Germans invade us as that whole thing caused a bit more than the loss of a few jobs. So maybe, if we are upset about challenging the status quo we could be sat here with no rights, a queen with supposedly absolute power? Society changes get over yourself and move on.

HarrysMummy17 · 28/06/2016 09:08

I voted out (and I'm in Scotland so figure that one?!)

The reason we voted out had nothing to do with immigration. After reading a lot about it I wasn't happy with how Brussels governed up. We live in a farming community and British farmers are now in decline because Brussels said all farms have to have 3 crops. That meant the potato farmers here had to also grow things like barley and turnips. Many farms went out of business when these rules were endorsed because the farmers couldn't afford the new machinery and produce. All of the oil seed rape field around my mums village in England have started to disappear because the farms couldn't grow 3 crops. They didn't have the money or the space. I also don't agree with the fishing policy. British fisherman are not allowed to fish the waters around our country. We have to let the European countries fish it and then sell us back the fish as they are landlocked and have no waters of their own. I know they aren't big reasons but they are important to my community.

Cameron should have never given us the vote in the first place

DianaRoss · 28/06/2016 13:40

I cant stand my friends and neighbours telling me its time to get the foreigners out and displaying their flags everywhere?

I know quite a lot of Latvians and Poles, and both groups have told me that they would never have allowed to happen to their countries what has happened in the UK. (And they are referring to themselves as part of the influx). Towns in Lincs have become 60 percent Polish, for example. They agree it serves their purpose, but at the same time they say unequivocally it would not be allowed to happen back home.

Wake up, and consider how & what other EU migrants think. Not everyone thinks in the way that you do.

DianaRoss · 28/06/2016 14:24

Free Movement of people was always going to be one-way. There's naff all in Poland or any of the Baltic countries. Those Brits who do work overseas are mostly internal transfers within their companies. Those OAPs who live in Spain are living off their own pensions, not claiming benefits.

fakenamefornow · 28/06/2016 16:57

Towns in Lincs have become 60 percent Polish

What towns are they?

Just5minswithDacre · 28/06/2016 16:59

I know quite a lot of Latvians and Poles, and both groups have told me that they would never have allowed to happen to their countries what has happened in the UK. (And they are referring to themselves as part of the influx). Towns in Lincs have become 60 percent Polish, for example. They agree it serves their purpose, but at the same time they say unequivocally it would not be allowed to happen back home.

But Lincs was facing considerable economic issues already, wasn't? And still does.

That's why there was so much work available there.

fakenamefornow · 28/06/2016 16:59

British fisherman are not allowed to fish the waters around our country We have to let the European countries fish it and then sell us back the fish

Could you please direct me to that law, I can't find it.

Just5minswithDacre · 28/06/2016 17:01

Those OAPs who live in Spain are living off their own pensions, not claiming benefits

You can't really hold Brits on the Costas up as shining examples of how do be the 'ideal immigrant' (if there is such a thing) can you?

Integrated communities with balanced economies and high percentages of residents able to participate fully by speaking the local language are what works best.

And when that doesn't happen, it is government that needs to take the blame for being laissez faire.

Fannydoesit · 28/06/2016 17:15

Voting 'leave' doesn't necessarily make them xenophobes OP. My DH voted leave and I voted 'remain' ... I did get a hit cross when he was dancing around the telly as the results came I the next morning, but he had his reasons as I did mine for voting as we did. Not xenophobia - we're both migrants who've naturalised in the UK. Live and let live, m'dear.

LightstepPeter0 · 28/06/2016 20:49

what towns are they?

I grew up in Lincolnshire and it was reported it had highest Brexit vote.

Lincolnshire voters were among the most Eurosceptic in the UK, with more than 75% of voters in Boston voting to leave. The town recorded the highest majority of Brexit voters in Britain. Also East Lindsay, S. Holland in that county.

TulipsInAJug · 28/06/2016 20:59

I've got rid of everyone I know or suspect to have voted Leave.

So much for a peaceful, tolerant, democratic society!

I voted Leave. I'm well-educated with several degrees and there is not much immigration where I live. Are you going to disown me?

I voted for reasons of sovereignty and democracy. I am glad I voted the way I did.

So many Remainers have shown themselves to be elitist, anti-democratic, neo-Liberal, bitter and grudge-bearing. I'm just glad that the majority of British people were courageous enough to take a clear stand for democracy and independence.

louisagradgrind · 28/06/2016 21:08

I recall Mary Beard on Question time in Lincolnshire, sneering at the local people who voiced these fears. She told them that immigration was a great thing and they should be glad about it.

The Brexit Result is what happens when you do this.

louisagradgrind · 28/06/2016 21:26

I think the town was Boston and she was challenged a number of times by locals but displayed condescending attitude.

I do wonder if Mary and others like her, in the wake of the result wish they could go back in time and show a more sympathic attitude or at least take concerns seriously.

RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs · 28/06/2016 21:55

Iloveowls2 Tue 28-Jun-16 08:50:00

^ spot on.

I think I remembered that clash Louisa, made me feel very cross watching it. I do not think for one second they can possibly stand outside of their rigid set in concrete views and think for one moment what has driven people to this.

This is why the old chaff needs to be swiftly cut loose and people like Frank Field need to come to the fore.

iwantadragon · 28/06/2016 22:03

How many people who voted Leave are struck dumb when sharing office space or schoolyards with those who wanted us to submit to a Euro Super State.

I shake whenever one comes near and so does my three month old baby, as I have explained to him that they dangerously risked a superstate run by Mr Juncker.

I'm still shaking. I recover for a while and then, thinking of the near miss, run amok and shake again. It is exhausting. I have gone NC with them.

too funny

fakenamefornow · 28/06/2016 22:40

DianaRoss

Still waiting for you to tell me what towns in the UK are now 60% Polish.

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