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To be apppalled by the remain camp attitude

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Rebecca2014 · 24/06/2016 13:13

On my FB feed, social media, TV we are being berated for voting leave, we are being called racist, thick, uneducated, stupid, poor, peasants, benefit scroungers...the list goes on. There is even an petition now to have another referendum because obviously the leave camp know absolutely nothing.

Boris Johnson was whisked away by the police when he left his house this morning as protesters were ranting at him, banging on his car. How is this democracy? why does it only run one way? Yet you cheer at this act of aggression.

I would understand if the vote was closer but it was not close, leave won by well over a million votes. Why cant you accept the results and look for a way forward together, why have a "me vs them" attitude.

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doraexploradora · 24/06/2016 16:18

once,

shocked you actually want us to leave??!! how do you organise that? mass exodus??

how pure do you need to be to be able to stay?

goodness me... it's getting worse by the minute now

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Oliviaerinpope · 24/06/2016 16:18

The researchers have identified that those with a higher level of education tended to vote remain.

This finding is true for my friendship group.

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Oliviaerinpope · 24/06/2016 16:21
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Oliviaerinpope · 24/06/2016 16:23

So it seems then to be true that the less intelligent people tended to vote out. It's a factual analysis and therefore, you should not be offended!

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cardibach · 24/06/2016 16:23

I'm astounded by a PP who wrote that the result 'wasn't even close' at 1 million more votes for leave than remain. Not close? That's 0.015 of the population! It's that sort of lack of understanding which has given leave voters a bad name - a focus on absolute figures has made contributions to the EU seem much more significant than they actually are.

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OrangesandLemonsNow · 24/06/2016 16:24

dora

once states she is a remain voter. I think you misread.

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PuntasticUsername · 24/06/2016 16:24

"Higher level of education" does not necessarily equate to "more intelligent". Yes, there is likely to be a correlation, but it's a bit more complicated than that!

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Alfieisnoisy · 24/06/2016 16:25

All my family voted Leave.

We now have the prospect of a Johnson/Gove even more to the right of centre Govt.
As Carer of a disabled child that makes me very concerned,

So yep....I have called my family on it. I am disappointed in them for being part of a vote which will ensure the most right wing Govt we have ever seen. My son might always need support but won't get it with the likes of Johnson in charge.

I love my family and normal service will resume tomorrow but today I don't want to talk to them.

I have equally challenged every friend posting xenophobic rubbish after the result. I will sit back and watch them implode when in two years time they realise we still have immigration because we...er.....need it.

The Leave camp have been equally as foul with their comments so yes....fuck you all as that's how I feel today....but only for today while I process it all in my head.

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blaeberry · 24/06/2016 16:25

Booing, shouting and banging on Boris' car is not an expression of democracy; it is mob rule.

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OrangesandLemonsNow · 24/06/2016 16:26

So it seems then to be true that the less intelligent people tended to vote out. It's a factual analysis and therefore, you should not be offended!

Clue is in the word tends to. Not all which is what people have been saying.

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Draylon · 24/06/2016 16:26

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TheNaze73 · 24/06/2016 16:29

I've been appalled by some of the things I've seen today by my fellow remainers.

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MrsChrisPratt · 24/06/2016 16:29

It's been true of the people I know as well Olivia but what's the point that's being made?

That less educated people's views are less valid?
Shouldn't be heard?
Shouldn't count?

Because that takes democracy back approximately 100 years, hell, why don't we just re-introduce the male property ownership rules to qualify for voting? (I'm not saying these are your views, but they are inferences many are making...)

Or should we be considering more that those with less education have voted leave because they feel more that they are negatively affected by the EU and all it entails?

It doesn't necessarily follow that less education+different choice from me= stupid+wrong...

I voted remain as well by the way!

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slamdunkthefunk · 24/06/2016 16:29

People are scared and worried. They are allowed to feel angry, it's normal human emotion.
Leavers - tough shit. You got your way,you won. Be happy and allow the Remains some grieving space.
I feel more of a stranger in my own country than ever now. To know that more than half of my fellow voters voted Leave makes me feel less of a patriot than ever. I have no love for Britain any more. This has killed 'Great' Britain for me.

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rale124 · 24/06/2016 16:31

Jesus I though some of the remain camp were bad before the vote.

People do not give a flying fuck that you are upset, whoever lost was going to be. It's completely acceptable to be upset.

People give a fuck that the attitudes been presented are horrifically totalitarian, bigoted, ageist and classist. How anyone thinks it's acceptable to suggest taking votes away from the elderly and the people they consider unintelligent is utterly crazy.

People making such comments... Want to know why the UK voted to leave the EU? Because people like you displayed such horribly bigoted and pretentious attitudes to the very people you claimed to be looking out for. The fact you can bitch and whine about racists considering your own attitudes are just as judgemental and despicable. These attitudes have lost you this vote, carry on and it will probably incite a revolution.

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OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 24/06/2016 16:32

Dora No, try reading what I actually wrote rather than being so reactionary. I didn't say I wanted anyone to leave, but I assumed they would have to due to the result.

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purplefox · 24/06/2016 16:32

There's a group of Remain voters on my FB who were so smug and derogatory during the entire campaign assuming they'd won weeks ago yet their constant statuses about respect for others made them look like complete hypocrites. Of course now today they've decided that half the country is idiotic, uneducated and racist, and of course the result isn't fair as 16 million isn't a majority of the 60 million in the country. Angry

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MitzyLeFrouf · 24/06/2016 16:33

carry on and it will probably incite a revolution.

Tempting!

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MrsChrisPratt · 24/06/2016 16:34

rate totally agree

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OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 24/06/2016 16:34

Olivia So it seems then to be true that the less intelligent people tended to vote out.
Careful not to confuse access to education with intelligence.

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MrsChrisPratt · 24/06/2016 16:35

FFS!!! Bloody typos...rale totally agree!

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JudyCoolibar · 24/06/2016 16:36

I think people aren't really understanding is that this is not like the situation after an election, or even after the Scottish referendum. After an election we are basically left in the same situation as we were before - yes, we'll get a government doing things we don't like, but in some cases we'll get the chance to campaign against it and lobby, in others we'll get another chance to vote them out. After the Scottish referendum we were left in the same position as we were the day before. In both cases, if you're in the losing camp, it's appropriate to be depressed but to acknowledge that that's democracy and we have to suck it up.

But in this case what has been decided is near irrevocable. Voting in another election won't change the disastrous effect on the economy, nor will it change the fact that a lot of very nasty racist types now feel validated. It won't bring jobs back, it won't improve our massively diminished trading position, it won't stop Scotland leaving. We will essentially become "Little England" without any of the industrial and colonial base that we had prior to joining the common market, and we'll have to take whatever trading conditions with the EU that we can get with no chance whatsoever to influence them.

We really are entitled to be worried about that, and to express our worries, and people who suggest that it is in some way bad form are being ridiculous. If it makes Brexiters feel uncomfortable about their vote or their willingness to believe blatantly unevidenced propaganda, so be it. That's reality, and tutting about unhappy remainers won't change it.

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Rebecca2014 · 24/06/2016 16:37

Right so now the uneducated should not vote?? is that what you are saying, please tell me because that is an vile view to have.

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Anna275 · 24/06/2016 16:37

I say this as someone who is an immigrant, highly educated, voted Remain, and earns a salary in London. There needs to be a government that represents the needs of all people, not just those who are well off or live in a specific geographic area. And clearly, quite a few people were unhappy with the current state of things. This was less about the EU and more about a group of people who don't feel represented making their voices heard in a way that couldn't be brushed off or ignored. Is it the best way to make change? We don't know that yet. We can't predict the future. But I saw this on another forum and think it's spot on:

"The lesson here is that if your working and middle classes feel more and more marginalized, they eventually will vote for change, and sometimes it will be based on emotion."

It's okay to be angry a little while. We're all essentially going through a grieving process. But sooner or later we all need to work together to figure out how we can meet in the middle and make the UK work for all of us, not just select groups.

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dollydaydream123 · 24/06/2016 16:37

Britain , what have you done? So many people with a world view the size of a pea! People were mislead - Farage has already made a u - turn on his NHS promises! It's the young people in this country I feel so sad for today.

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