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To be apppalled by the remain camp attitude

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Rebecca2014 · 24/06/2016 13:13

On my FB feed, social media, TV we are being berated for voting leave, we are being called racist, thick, uneducated, stupid, poor, peasants, benefit scroungers...the list goes on. There is even an petition now to have another referendum because obviously the leave camp know absolutely nothing.

Boris Johnson was whisked away by the police when he left his house this morning as protesters were ranting at him, banging on his car. How is this democracy? why does it only run one way? Yet you cheer at this act of aggression.

I would understand if the vote was closer but it was not close, leave won by well over a million votes. Why cant you accept the results and look for a way forward together, why have a "me vs them" attitude.

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/06/2016 18:03

Talking of manicured Islington hands is reverse snobbery and just as bad.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/06/2016 18:04

Have only seen passionate and sometimes angry Remain voters but have seen so many Leave voters being goady twats on here.

BertrandRussell · 27/06/2016 18:12

I have actually noticed that a reasonable % of the British population are racists, actually. I have a couple of hundred friends on fb- and my friends tend towards the pinko-liberal. But among them I have 4 overt racists. Who post racist things. So 2% of my fb friends are prepared to be racist in a pretty racism- averse group.

Headofthehive55 · 27/06/2016 18:15

mooing yes travel will still I expect be an option. However the paperwork needed will be greater, take more time etc. For business travellers, this amounts to a impact on their time available to be able to do business which creates money. In essence decreases efficiency.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/06/2016 18:16

Go and look at the comments on any UK newspaper story about Muslims online

gardenrosie · 27/06/2016 18:26

I voted remain. I am appalled at what is happening to the country, to the value of the pound, to my European friends who already don't feel welcome, the list goes on.

I am not cross that the vote I cast didn't win - I am cross that I have lost two contracts already because people aren't certain of their future, my Dad's pension is 35% smaller, my husbands job is uncertain... but most of all I am cross that there was no plan for this situation.

I could accept what's happened if it felt as if it was expected or anyone had a clue what to do. Instead I feel as if we have been shoved out of a plane and are in freefall, waiting to find out if there is a parachute or if we are going to smack into the ground.

I can't help but feel cross with the voters that created this situation - I don't give a toss where they are from or what their IQ is, that isn't relevant, but their vote to leave has had a massive detrimental effect.

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 27/06/2016 19:01

BertrandRussell I agree. Out of my FB friends (40, I can't keep up with hundreds!) . 3 were posting overly racist material. Two of them family members and the family members not posting it on FB have said it in front of me.

I have relatives who think having a baby with a black or Asian person is grounds to disown them. They'll never say it in public but behind closed doors...

I could post about every family gathering where racism, islamophobia, sexism and homophobia comes out.

The only difference now is many feel Like they have been given a pass to do it in public not just in their own homes.

People who deny this exists are just as bad as the racists themselves imo.

blaeberry · 27/06/2016 19:25

I can think of only one fb friend (now ex friend) who was racist but she wasn't British and didn't live in Britain. But quite a few fb friends seemed to have friends posting racist messages after the last Indyref in Scotland - all anti-English.

Mooingcow · 27/06/2016 20:26

Head in my company, we factor in extra time for visas, queues etc. But if time were so important I'd say it was far more efficient to conference call or Skype.

Usually it's the new clients we'd travel to and that tends to be a more fluid, social thing anyway.

For leisure, I can't get too bothered frankly. Some airports are efficient, some you're stuck whatever your passport.

Always carry a fat novel.

Headofthehive55 · 27/06/2016 23:41

Time is money. Time queuing is wasted time. I agree that Skype is useful, but can't always be done. It's hardly helped the process has it?

Small things add up. Little decisions by lots of people all insignificant as each one is examined but they have a nasty habit of adding up.

NorthorSouth · 28/06/2016 08:03

I am another remain voter who is also having to stay on radio silence with my leave voting father. Now I will immediately say that our relationship is already strained due to his history of domestic violence against me and alcoholism. So we definitely fall into the difficult relationship before Brexit camp, it is just him laughing in the background on the morning after the vote while was speaking to my mother has not improved relations!

I have two friends who voted leave, I disagree but we shall remain friends just probably avoiding political topics until everything settles down.

Personally (I could be wrong) I see the main reason why us remainers are so panicked is that this is a major change to the status quo. I went through the Scottish referendum but the status quo was not changed, the one benefit the yes side had was that although they'd lost at least they knew what to expect in the days and weeks afterward. It may not have been what they wanted but they the economy didn't go into a nosedive and the job market was pretty much the same as the day before.

This time the status quo has been smashed and I think leavers have to acknowledge that can be very frightening. Everything could work out fine in the long term but at the moment both the economy and government are in chaos. There is uncertainty about jobs and many people don't know if they will be able to continue living in the home they've made their home for years. This is very unsettling, change always is.

If there was a strong plan and a head of government that looked confident and capable of leading us into an uncertain future then I think the remainers would be a lot calmer. Maybe that will come in the future, it is just at the moment I think everyone would just like to know who is steering the ship and whether they know how to plot a safe course through choppy waters.

My thoughts, for what little they're worth. Smile

GreenishMe · 28/06/2016 14:11

I wish more Remain voters were as reasonable as you North

I fully understand your immediate concerns I have them too but for me it was a case not of miraculous improvements in our way of life if we leave, but an overwhelming discomfort of the insidious changes that will/are occurring in the EU.

I see it becoming less and less democratic and increasingly dictatorial. The referendum felt to me like our last opportunity to escape...and I had to take it.

I was aware that there'd be financial consequences to leaving the EU because we're so entangled in it after 40 years. However, democracy is priceless....which is kind of ironic considering how many people in the UK are now intent on undermining it.

So although everything is really shitty on the face of it, I think we need to see how things transpire in the EU over the next few years before we can really know which decision was right or wrong.

One thing I'm certain of though is that if we weren't already in the EU and the referendum had been about whether to join, I'd have no doubts at all ....I'd run a mile.

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