To be apppalled by the remain camp attitude

[Rebecca2014]

On my FB feed, social media, TV we are being berated for voting leave, we are being called racist, thick, uneducated, stupid, poor, peasants, benefit scroungers...the list goes on. There is even an petition now to have another referendum because obviously the leave camp know absolutely nothing.

Boris Johnson was whisked away by the police when he left his house this morning as protesters were ranting at him, banging on his car. How is this democracy? why does it only run one way? Yet you cheer at this act of aggression.

I would understand if the vote was closer but it was not close, leave won by well over a million votes. Why cant you accept the results and look for a way forward together, why have a "me vs them" attitude.

Remain edged well forward at about 2am and the market was still dropping.
Tbf the expert opinion at the time was that although ahead in terms of the votes that had been counted, remain were behind on where they needed to be to secure a victory. So even to a reasonably casual observer (like me) the odds of a Leave victory seemed high.

It is uncertainty that freaks out markets the most. Hopefully the Leave campaign can come forward with their plan now, to ease some of that uncertainty and settle the markets.

happyandsingle that is a very small minded attitude you have, assuming that all Remainers hate working class people. I am working class, I live on a council estate, I am 100 % behind remaining in the EU (and just for clarity, I have no issues with any person in any class - I have issues with xenophobic, homophobics, racists etc - and just for further clarity I am not saying everybody that voted leave is any of those things). My stance in this has not changed once. I truly believe we would have been better off in (and that my children would have a better future if we remained in).

"Hopefully the Leave campaign can come forward with their plan now"

What plan is that? If they had one, do you not think we might have heard about it by now?

I'm working class and I voted Remain!

It's all about money and power, there are a lot of the establishment afraid the UK have demanded more equality. And nothing squeals louder than a fat middle class remainer being told the majority want a share of the pie.

Armi you sound like such a charming person. So leave voters are thick and racist. You seem like a horrible person another reason why I'm so glad I voted out. We are seeing the true opinions of the remain voters and my beliefs are sadly confirmed.

Rosie, no, they couldn't call it (ie declare a winner). But throughout the night it was clear that leave were doing better than expected.

I thought your point, tho, was that the markets were jumpy when they thought the remain campaign were going to win. Hence my point that at the time the markets didn't think remain were going to win. I must have misunderstood, as it seems your point is that nobody had any clue how it was going to go all night.

Sorry, blink, I was being facetious. I don't think anybody in the leave campaign had an actionable plan for what to do if they won.

I'm at a loss to know why anyone working class would vote for a leave campaign with led by three extreme right-wingers. It's like voting for your own execution. Or voting for trump.

They don't care about you. Gove, Farage et al want out of the EU because it has given such robust rights to workers, women, the disabled etc.

I'm yet to see a good argument to leave. Everyone just spouting easy to refute myths.

Don't worry what Armi thinks, happyandsingle - the Far Right of the world, LOVE YOU.

All part of "the leave plan" though right?

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/24/european-far-right-hails-britains-brexit-vote-marine-le-pen

Armi you sound like such a charming person. So leave voters are thick and racist. You seem like a horrible person another reason why I'm so glad I voted out. We are seeing the true opinions of the remain voters and my beliefs are sadly confirmed.

No. You saw the opinion of one Remain poster. That poster being Armi.

Ironically, to suggest that Armi is representative of all people who did not want to leave the EU isn't the best way to tell her she is misguided in her opinion of Brexiters.

don't forget Stick, she is a bit thick afterall

"We are not educated enough. Proud to of won".

Sorry am sitting on hands here. Don't like grammar pedants but there's a fair bit of nastiness being dished out on this thread...

mrscpratt
maybe join the Conservatives so I can vote in the leadership contest to try to avoid Boris???!)
good luck with that - unlike labour the party leader is not chosen by members but by other mps

Throwingpebbles how right you are

That's interesting I know in the past they have used a system of 'emergence' but on the news this morning it was said that the parliamentary party will pick two candidates to then be voted on by the wider party so thought it had changed. Could be wrong though but that was definitely said on ITV this morning

What do you expect OP? Do you really think that people are going to be jumping for joy and assuming that leave voters have made intelligent decisions based on all the facts and know better than nearly all economists regarding what this will do to the UK?

That's was to Mollie123

I'm at a loss to know why anyone working class would vote for a leave campaign with led by three extreme right-wingers. It's like voting for your own execution. Or voting for trump.

Yes. It is like turkeys voting for Christmas.

www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/03/andrew-rosindell-party-members-should-have-a-greater-say-in-the-next-leadership-election-heres-a-plan-for-reform.html

Mollie123

Seek every - I respect people's anger but the vile name calling and outright nastiness is just not called for. Ita like some people on here think they have the right to abuse what the majority has chosen.

And as for the pound plummeting - that was about the only absolute given of what happens next if the leave campaign won. I really don't get why this came as such a shock to everyone. It was the one certainty that was going to happen immediately.
Hopefully is short term whilst this even out.

Yes be angry but don't be nasty.

And as for the pound plummeting - that was about the only absolute given of what happens next if the leave campaign won

Well, precisely - so what I can't figure out is why on earth anyone voted that way! I'm not shocked it plummeted when we left - I'm shocked anyone voted to leave in full knowledge of that certainty!

Before the vote, there was so much misinformation and uncertainty on both sides. I'm only 30 so dont have huge experience of elections but this one really did seem different in that regard (I mean, I know different parties abuse statistics and stuff normally, but this seemed on a whole new level!). So it's hardly fair to blame people for being confused and uncertain. And it got really playground-y, flinging insults at each side.

Plus, whichever side won, the other half of the country would be saying "Oho! We were right" about anything bad happening as a result (like after any election...). Except with the "leave" result it all happens faster because it involves a change from the status quo.

It's also unusual to vote on something so specific; we don't normally get to vote on a specific issue/policy. Take the immigration aspect of Brexit - if a voter is concerned about immigration placing a strain on services and housing, but are offered only (as they see it) option A) carry on as we are, or B) stem the flow of migrants, then is it any wonder they choose B? Because they have no say on other decisions, for example C) fund services properly with all that extra money immigrants/EU membership brings.

[Also... I'm a remain voter but can't understand why European nationals don't have to go back to their "home" country. I mean, I didn't expect it to be instant but surely if we do go through with this and leave then they will no longer legally be allowed to be here? Or is it to do with negotiating trade deals, where migration would be part of the deal?

Am also surprised at results in London considering the housing situation there.]

ta like some people on here think they have the right to abuse what the majority has chosen.
yes it's called freedom of speech and its still allowed - and it's democratic. Remember all that passion for democracy the leavers have? Well it is being exercised today too.

We are allowed to be angry and think a massive mistake has been made that will have enormous negative repercussions for Britain.

leavers are the only ones who want to be part of a fantastic Britain, and many of us think that this has been snatched away from future generations by "turkeys voting for Christmas"