To be apppalled by the remain camp attitude

[Rebecca2014]

On my FB feed, social media, TV we are being berated for voting leave, we are being called racist, thick, uneducated, stupid, poor, peasants, benefit scroungers...the list goes on. There is even an petition now to have another referendum because obviously the leave camp know absolutely nothing.

Boris Johnson was whisked away by the police when he left his house this morning as protesters were ranting at him, banging on his car. How is this democracy? why does it only run one way? Yet you cheer at this act of aggression.

I would understand if the vote was closer but it was not close, leave won by well over a million votes. Why cant you accept the results and look for a way forward together, why have a "me vs them" attitude.

[andypandy55]

Yes your point is interesting but surely since all countries are ethnocentric, it is up to the majority to not allow racism to flourish and unfortunately this is just what this referendum triggered.

[NowWhat1983]

Perhaps the message will sink in when cheap holidays, tobacco, booze, food from EU supermarkets dries up

Cheap package holidays to Spain started in the 70s. Back then there was no EU, no free movement and you got a stamp in your passport to go to Spain......

[SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace]

But it's all very well to say we didn't use to be in the EU because there wasn't an EU, and that was fine: there is one now though, and not being it in once it exists is not comparable to not being in it when it didn't!

[NowWhat1983]

Cheap holidays and flights are innovation.

Very expensive when they first came out, supply and demand pushes prices down. That started before the EU existed.

[BillSykesDog]

But it's all very well to say we didn't use to be in the EU because there wasn't an EU

The name has changed from EC to EEC to EU and a few others. But it certainly did exist for quite some time without us being members.

[turnipturnip]

Democracy is fine, as long is it's my choice that wins. A lot of people are saying that remain voters aren't satisfied. However, those who didn't vote in the election or didn't vote conservatives and weren't happy with the outcome have been ones pushing for the referendum so its 6 of one half a dozen of another IMO. Both sides have whinged the same with their disappointment and wanted the outcome changing. Ppl have a short memory it seems.

[throwingpebbles]

nowwhat the issue isnt about package holidays
It's about free movement of workers

[blaeberry]

IT is not just Gove who can mess up education - the SNP are making an even bigger mess of education in Scotland. I would much rather my kids went to school in England at the moment.

[GreenishMe]

They certainly found their feet for the referendum.

Yes.....because they were passionate enough to actually go out and vote for something they really wanted.

The fact that many Remain voters were too complacent to bother voting is nobody's fault but their own.

[Grassgreendashhabi]

Second EU referendum petition investigated for fraud
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

77000 is a tiny percentage and I'm sure all.major petitions like this have a small fraud margin expected. I wonder why they are publishing this

[Mooingcow]

the chance to travel, mix, learn about other cultures and to benefit from the collaboration of others, e.g. science, medicine, technology etc

Way, way WAY before Britain joined the Common Market in the 1970s, my parents were travelling on the continent, taking us to major cities, camping in forests, seeing friends, letting us pick up languages.

They took us to live all over the world, including in the EU, and many other countries where they needed visas and paperwork and we queued at passport control.

They had gumption, the desire to travel and see the world, explore other thinking in their fields with new colleagues, learn other languages and make friends on every continent, most of whom we still visit regularly.

As far as I am aware, those options are still
open to everyone.

The vote seems to have reduced many to passive, scared people who can't see they remain, as they always were, lucky enough to live in a free country, which they may leave at will, no secret police, no labrynthine visas, no employer holding your passport.

Nobody is stopping anyone from going anywhere. Take control of your own future.

[OrangesandLemonsNow]

Some on here have even said they have signed numerous times using different email addresses.

Those wouldn't be weeded out.

[blinkowl]

The thing you have failed to mention is it turns out the petition was created by a Leave campaigner before the result was known, whe it looked like Remain would win.

I think therefore any Brexiters complaining about Remains moaning should STFU now, don't you think?

The creator of the petition is complaining about it being hijacked by Remain apparently. You've gotta laugh ...

[YetAnotherHelenMumsnet]

Hi all,

After a great many requests, we're moving the bulk of the referendum threads to the new board here.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_

Many of you, understandably, want to discuss this subject at length and in detail - this seems a good way to simultaneously keep AIBU and Chat moving for those who don't wish to participate. Of course, the conversations will still appear in Active.

[Figmentofmyimagination]

"On my FB feed, social media, TV we are being berated for voting leave, we are being called racist, thick, uneducated, stupid, poor, peasants, benefit scroungers...the list goes on. There is even an petition now to have another referendum because obviously the leave camp know absolutely nothing."

Yeh right. Ashcroft did us a huge favour with his private exit poll pointing out that those who voted in favour of leaving the EU were in fact overwhelmingly:

• those with no education beyond formal school leaving age
• those on low paid manual jobs or no work
• those over the age of 65

So you can just fuck off, basically, with your "why are we being berated" bullshit - and while you are at it, take a look at the explosion in race hate incidents since this outcome was announced - with people - even children - being told to "leave now because you are not welcome".

If the cap fits, wear it.

[Littlemisslovesspiders]

So you can just fuck off, basically, with your "why are we being berated" bullshit

How about you grow up.

Unless you know all 17 million voters then you don't know all the details of everyone that voted.

Let's not forget that the majority of those aged 18-25 that could vote couldn't even be bothered to do so.

[Mooingcow]

Figment are you this aggressively quick to demonstrate bigotry and classism and racism and hatred to everyone whose beliefs you don't like?

Do you show the same uncontrolled nastiness to people who dress differently? Choose a different sexuality? Hold alternative religious beliefs to you?

Do you teach your children this kind of intolerant prejudice?

[Aeroflotgirl]

Figment you sound quite aggressive and unpleasent, stop tarring us with the same brush. DH and I both voted leave but were nine of those target votes you described. DH is Maltese, and I come from an Armnian family, but born here. It is sad, that this referendum has brought the racist biggots out from the woodwork, some equally unpleasent behaviour from the remain, above included.

[HildurOdegard]

Figment - given his exit poll was INCORRECT about the most fundamental aspect of it... I'm not sure I'm quite ready to swallow the rest of his figures as fact.

Interesting that nobody's ever noticed before than 17% of the electorate are vile racists, weird. You'd have thought the issue would've been recognised before. It's almost as though it's not true and it's just the sound of manicured Islington hands clutching at straws.

[HildurOdegard]

Sorry, 17 million adults, not 17%. 17 MILLION vile racists, yet nobody picked up on it before. sad face

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

I have noticed that a large part of the population are racist actually.

[Grassgreendashhabi]

Hildur - 17 MILLION vile racists, yet nobody picked up on

And that is why there cannot be a debate or a conversation because some people like you brand people with names regardless of their arguments

[PalaceGirl]

I wish people would stop saying 51percent voted to leave. It's actually 38percent of the electorate that voted to leave.

[Mooingcow]

Hildur.

Those pesky, slippery straws.

Maybe the huge number of suddenly visible racists include the innumerable posters who are quite happy to sling racist, ageist, snobby slurs at the white working class electorate because it makes them feel superior.

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