So Leavers what happens Friday if you win? What's the plan Stan?

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Hello...My name is Showme..and I am a remainer

But I am also pragmatic, and a planner. My concern is the Leave campaign has no Plan. At all. Nadda

For me with objectives you have assumption oh and plans. I see an awful lot of we will be x better off, there will be x less of blah blah. But how?

So they win. And on Friday what? Day zero?

The current government's plans aren't always its own plans, they're the EU's. And the EU is becoming more and more powerful, and making more and more plans on your (and the government's) behalf all the time. That is the WHOLE POINT of the referendum. The fact that you've missed the point entirely, with less than 48 hours to go, is incredible.

Quite. As I say this should not have gone to referendum. It's a clusterfuck.

There has been no explanation of the process at all

Googling 'referendum what happens next' brings up articles on the BBC and most of the broadsheet newspapers.

*Whats' Nope. On a day to day basis the rubbish being collected, the police being available, the NHS etc affects me. I am refusing to acknowledge any factious monetary factions you may have regarding money savings re the EU etc as even the Leave campaign is now backing down on some of them

I don't believe for one second I would have more freedom out of the EU in anyway. Or be in any way richer or more importantly that my local community would be better off. I have no issues with immigration apart from how we deal with mass immigration due to refugees and the heartless way we treat them.

Thanks for another diss to my fairy dust.

So everyone should just Google

Google is the forefront defender of our democracy? Brilliant!

I was listening to Michael Gove on radio 4 this morning.

Immigration from outside the EU is currently running at double the Tory manifesto pledge.

So, basically, immigration that they can control, they're not.

But it's much easier to blame furriners than actually admit to the people that voted for them that you have no intention of reducing immigration, because it's needed to make capitalism work.

I'm sorry to upset your vision of Leavers being thick and not knowing that if we win that we will then have at least two years working towards our extraction from the EU.

So many Remainers on here assert that Leavers are xenophobic, racist fools when, in fact, for most of us, immigration is only one issue and for me, and I suspect for many, is way down the list of reasons. But don't let that stop you spouting nonsense.

As for Cameron - I think you will find that there will be a rapid vote of no confidence - some think the leader of the 1922 committee already has the required 50 letters from MPs dated 24 June. I assume his successor will depend upon the outcome of the referendum to a certain extent but doubt there will be a general election.

I will be interested to see how many other countries hold their own referendum in the coming year. Switzerland has withdrawn their application which is a good start.

The EU will not break up. However, if it did you would end up with european nations looking after their own interests - kiss goodbye to partnership, trade, movement and collaboration. Since Britain's manufacturing and utilities have been sold off I don't know what bargaining power UK would expect to have.

Google is the forefront defender of our democracy

No, you, as a voter, are a forefront defender of our democracy. As such, it's your responsibility to inform yourself.

Ouch Rorty

I think you may have misinterpreted. I have said that many Leavers do believe change will happen as of Friday as we are used to our electoral system and we do not have as a rule referendums

That as nation we are not educated about the purpose or outcomes of referendums unlike Switzerland) and that this lack of education will leave a void for those who are expected swift change

Also I think Googling is not an answer to understanding fundamental issues for our democracy

Oh and that I am extremely concerned there is no plan if we leave.

I do understand the workings generally of the 1922 committee - but it doesn't mean that would happen immediately at all. And/Or if it did Boris would be in for a tricky ride

So no you have not upset me in any way - don't worry

Whats fraid not - not worked up at all about understanding how the country I love will operate over the new few years with a decision to leave the EU but with no party to lead it, no plan to action it, and no will to govern the action

Yes - that concerns me - why are so many people trusting that it will all be OK? It is so easy to prove a negative against the status quo - how about showing how the positives will be achieved

It's actually not that hard......if there is a plan!

Flavia Thanks for the advice......I'll pass it on............when people get angry that no action has been taken....

Well the government will be in charge of negotiating our exit terms so for the moment it has to be "What's the plan Dave?"
There's no Brexit plan because they have no influence on the negotiations. My plans for next Friday have as much relevance as Gove's.
I think the government should be outlining the plans either way rather than being entirely partisan.
The whole thing has been a shambles and Cameron should have been the referee not a captain.

Oh goodness you're not still asking same thing?! It's a referendum. You clearly haven't got a clue about democracy.

It's shocking how some on remain are so confused by this issue. It's an instruction from us the people to our elected represenatives to propose initiatives and debate in House of Commons etc.

You're not the one that was proposing unicorns too? It seems that some remainers are truly unaware of democarcy and maybe why they are voting to remain

Do you really still not understand? Although to be fair I've noticed a good few newsreaders that are slightly confused on why Boris doesn't turn up with a manifesto of proposals.

It is about returning soverinity to our parliament and Justice system.

Well, nothing happens.

The stock markets will be volatile. Cameron resigns.

It will be 2 years before there is any leaving.

I'm voting Leave (although I don't think it will happen). The stock market will recover. It really will.

Giddy: indeed the government are at fault big time over this.

Their role is to be preparing for whatever the outcome, as is the BoE. Not using economic modelling variations to scare the British public.

Show There is one party that would be keen to lead the exit...

You forgot to point out the bit where I'd mentioned monetary factions/notions..?

I feel that you're tarring 50% of the voting population with the same brush: that they're all thick, believe anything they're told, and don't even know how a referendum works. That appears condescending and small-minded of you. This isn't a runaway Remain success, if we are to believe the polls. It's a neck-and-neck race. Are you really saying that half of the UK's voting population is stupid?

I'm still undecided, mainly because I've taken time to listen to both sides of the argument. In fact, the more I read, the less certain I become. (Although I'm swaying towards Remain.) There are compelling reasons for staying and for leaving. The one thing we DO know is that the future is uncertain whichever way we vote.

Well, nothing happens.

The stock markets will be volatile.

This is a paradox. If the stock markets are volatile it will affect investment, trade and potentially lead to a recession.

The whole thing has been a shambles and Cameron should have been the referee not a captain.

YES! I couldn't agree more. Thank you for putting that into words, Giddy. That exactly expresses my unease about the campaign.

Do you have any idea how many people think this means as from Friday we are out of the EU. That they 'are taking back their county' as a PP has stated - this is how the brexit campaigners have rallied people to vote for them

If people are so stupid they dont understand what a referendum is or what they are voting for, there isn't much anyone can do about that. There has been loads of explanation of the process, what its all about, how it works. Few people actually pay attention to all that though, preferring to be swayed instead by screaming headlines and inane commentary on Facebook.
And that goes for both sides.

If a Corbyn led labour party was to be ahead in the polls approaching the next election the stock market would be volatile but no one would suggest it as a reason not to vote for him.

Hod" yes it has been a battle of sound bites. None of which have had any substance. I don't want to vote in or out because a person tells me to. I want facts and plans but it's been a media battle for attention. Facts have been the casualty. Leave don't know what will happen. Remain don't know either. There is no status quo option. There is no reform option. There is no trade agreement waiting option.
Every opinion is biased. Take everything with a pinch of salt.

time oh they would.

What: think you're taking something as personal to you - I was responding to OP I'd earlier spoken to on another thread about the same issue who has implied I was the dim one

I'm not implying anyone is daft - government doing an excellent job of confusing people. But that isn't their job.