So Leavers what happens Friday if you win? What's the plan Stan?

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Hello...My name is Showme..and I am a remainer

But I am also pragmatic, and a planner. My concern is the Leave campaign has no Plan. At all. Nadda

For me with objectives you have assumption oh and plans. I see an awful lot of we will be x better off, there will be x less of blah blah. But how?

So they win. And on Friday what? Day zero?

There is no 'void'. That is what Article 50 provides for.

That seems to suggest we abdicate responsibility for the consequences of our votes Titsy and that really isn't how it works. Brexiters need to suggest a plan at least.

hubris there is a void for all those people who believe the immigration argument. They really do believe actions will happen quick. Just to say we are not Switzerland. This is the first referendum in my lifetime. Without explanation of how it works. I really think people think it's similar to an election - you vote - job done

Without explaining timescales or plans there is a void. So people just wait and see? That is not Brexit have said - smoke and mirrors

If there's a leave vote and article 50 is invoked the EU negotiates the terms of our leaving. Not what they can offer us to make us reconsider.

How can they have a plan when they aren't in control? We aren't voting in a government here!

If people think we would be out of the EU on Friday they should have looked into it more!

I'm unsure about this second referendum DH mentioned but the renegotiation talks are 2 years. So until that is sorted we will still technically be in the EU.

Well, Remainers - what is YOUR plan, going forward, if we stay in? I think it's hang on to the EU for dear life and pray that they don't mess it up. Because you will have zero say in what happens.
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There is no second referendum. Thursday is it, no second chance.

In event of Brexit I would expect,

Cameron to resign.
Tory infighting/leadership contest
£ devalued
Months/years of uncertainty
Cross party fighting/recriminations of Brexit fallout
2020 GE - with parties promising to end the economic uncertainty of previous 4 years.

I was wondering earlier what would happen too - if Cameron resigns, would we have a general election? And theoretically could labour or even consevatives have an election pledge to stay in the EU? And if they then won - would that over turn the referendum?
I can't see how its going to work. There is no political party that want to deliver this change.

Do you have any idea how many people think this means as from Friday we are out of the EU

I'd be very surprised if even one person truly believed we'd be out if the EU on Friday. I have seen nothing to suggest that's true. It's a daft thing to say.

Titsywoo We do not have referendums in this country generally - so how are people meant to understand when there has been so little education?

Also it is very possible to plan when not in control - we have had MEP's who are anti-EU for a long time. MP's who have been anti-EU for 20 + years

It really isn't hard to create an idea of a plan when you know who all the institutions operate and what you claim you will achieve. A plan is a plan - you do not need to be currently in power to write one

I think if people have been duped when they are not used to referendum's it is hardly their fault (am not condoning the anti-immigration stance)

I think slowly over the next 10 years things will change

No one expects change overnight that's a load of guff.

Leavers expect change over the next decade maybe longer.

Do you think all leavers are stupid or something..?

A plan is a plan - you do not need to be currently in power to write one

But what good is it if you can't put it into practice?

The current governments plans aren't MY plans -but they affect me on a day to day basis more than the EU. I just like to understand how the 'promises' are going to affect my country socially and economically - and how and when that will happen.

Saying 'its just a referendum' and down playing at this stage when asked for plans and reassurance is worrying

Whats Perhaps the people you are aware of are not the same as the one's I am. Tis not daft I'm afraid - but thanks for the comment - will add it to my list of fairy dust

Fwiw, I know plenty of people who think a leave vote will take effect on Friday morning so they can "get our country back!". None of them seem to know about the negotiation required, or that a referendum is to gauge opinion only. But they just won't be told. After all, they can't wait to get their country back from the unelected bureaucrats.

Titsy All good business people and politicians plan and plan and plan. Most plans are tweaked, are adapted are adjusted. But without a plan you have nothing

Titsywoo do you honestly think there's no point planning unless you have the power already? Lordy. Job interviews would be interesting. "So, how do you plan to develop the post over the next five years?" "Oh, I don't know. I'll figure that out when you give me the job."

One wonders what manifestos are for, if that were the case. Of course we know they are mostly bollocks, but they do at least pretend to have a plan.

But when a government get elected they have plans that they CAN carry through. This is just being asked your opinion. NOBODY knows what will happen either way. You just have to go with your gut feeling to be honest.

This is why it should never have gone to referendum. We may as well just flip a coin!

Frankly given all the European parliamentary sessions and committee session Nigel Farage didn't attend as an MEP you'd have thought he'd have thought of a few likely events post a leave vote, jotted down a few thoughts etc. He couldn't have spent that much time on his expenses.

Who are you asking to plan honeysuckle? Boris Johnson? Ok he probably has plans in his head but he isn't Prime Minister. Same for Gove. Cameron? Well he isn't going to make plans for leave but if it happens then he will have to start the process with the EU then we will see what happens. Or maybe he will resign. Maybe maybe maybe. I'm not sure where you want these plans to come from and who you want to enact them.

What you are saying doesn't make sense!

Salene It is not a load of guff. Maybe amongst people you know. Nut amongst some people I know

There has been no explanation of the process at all - and the bexit 'leaders' are so disparate they will implode my concern they will be unable to address peoples concerns

How will they communicate to the people when they are not a party. Have no power (as so many of you have said) and can not work together past tomorrow?

David Cameron resigning wouldn't trigger a general election. That would only happen if the government resigned (and even then the Queen has the theoretical option of seeing if another government could be formed) or if the govt lost a vote of confidence in the Commons.

I imagine that if a vote of confidence was likely, all Conservative MPs, Leave or Remain, would line up behind the leadership.

I think if Leave wins, DC will stay as PM for a bit, but a lot of planning will be going on behind the scenes. I don't think it's anything like certain that Boris will take over. It will need to be someone capable of uniting Leavers and Remainers; I don't think Boris is that person.

But who cares what Nigels plans are littlebear? He isn't in power!

Your list of fairy dust? Eh? Great comeback.

The current governments plans aren't MY plans -but they affect me on a day to day basis more than the EU

The current government's plans aren't always its own plans, they're the EU's. And the EU is becoming more and more powerful, and making more and more plans on your (and the government's) behalf all the time. That is the WHOLE POINT of the referendum. The fact that you've missed the point entirely, with less than 48 hours to go, is incredible.

Yes they should have explained what would happen if a leave vote wins. But to be fair all the info is out there for you to see if you are really interested.