Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Elderly parents

Cockroach cafe 🪳 Summer 2023 🪳

984 replies

MereDintofPandiculation · 24/07/2023 20:27

Welcome! I’ve done a really good clean of the place overnight, and brought in sweet peas, and raspberries from the garden to go with the scones and clotted cream.

Come in when you want to share good news, or to rant, or to ask a small question that doesn't warrant its own thread. Or just to hang out with others who understand what you're going through.

For newbies: why cockroach? Previous long term resident of "Elderly Parents" Yolo's DM attended a 'small animal event' in a nursing home, and was presented with a "small animal with a hard back" the name of which species she couldn't remember. Her ever helpful DB suggested cockroach, and it has become a toast on here. So 🪳 mes amis/amies, and may you all live to fight another day.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
9
EmmaEmerald · 19/10/2023 20:06

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2023 19:43

Sorry, that's kind of what I meant.
I'm not blaming you but it sounds like you have a lot on your plate still.

No offence Shell but you sound like my mum with that statement of the obvious! 😂

Yes, I do have a lot on my plate and trying to figure out how to make it better.

Mum5net · 19/10/2023 20:20

Emma, you need Path of Least Resistance
At work when things went really tits up, and we were panicking, this was like an emergency switch. The cry would go up, Path of Least Resistance’, and we would de-escalate and literally do the easiest thing to survive the moment.

funnelfan · 19/10/2023 20:22

I operate on a basis of not taking major decisions while under stress. So on that basis and the fact you haven’t said the £10k loss would wipe you out financially, I would cancel the sale of your old flat, mothball your new one until you can face doing the necessary to rent it out and move as much as you can manage to the old one and get better.

I’m saying this from the perspective of someone that has an unexpected mid-week visit to my mum this week due to a suspected health issue. She’s ok and I only had to stay one night, but I still had a moment in the kitchen at lunchtime and am feeling a bit wrung out. Everything you are saying shouts that you want to go back. So go back. Your only loss is financial and if you can take that, then take it.

EmmaEmerald · 19/10/2023 21:38

Thanks for the replies

funnel sorry you are feeling wrung out.

countrygirl99 · 20/10/2023 08:05

I need to have a difficult conversation with my mother. It's about toilet cleaning. Or rather lack of it. The rest of the house is OK but my the loo is, to use a mumsnet favourite word, grim. I checked the cupboard and there was no toilet cleaner , descaler or bleach and the loo brush has vanished (if she hadn't lost her tablet charging cable and then the replacement months ago I'd think she'dbeen on mumsnet loo brush threads! ). She's also still got her obsession with kitchen bin liners being hideously expensive but doesn't clean the bin after emptying it🤢.
Had a chat with DB2 about a GP appointment for her assessment as she's had somewhere between 1 and a few falls in the last couple if weeks. Apparently she told him she hadn't seen me for a few weeks - the day after I'd got her emergency cash, taken her for vaccinations and to the supermarket.
But she hasn't got dementia no, no. She can't understand why anyone would think that as her memory is fine and she doesn't need any help.

WhatHaveIFound · 20/10/2023 09:50

countrygirl99 · 20/10/2023 08:05

I need to have a difficult conversation with my mother. It's about toilet cleaning. Or rather lack of it. The rest of the house is OK but my the loo is, to use a mumsnet favourite word, grim. I checked the cupboard and there was no toilet cleaner , descaler or bleach and the loo brush has vanished (if she hadn't lost her tablet charging cable and then the replacement months ago I'd think she'dbeen on mumsnet loo brush threads! ). She's also still got her obsession with kitchen bin liners being hideously expensive but doesn't clean the bin after emptying it🤢.
Had a chat with DB2 about a GP appointment for her assessment as she's had somewhere between 1 and a few falls in the last couple if weeks. Apparently she told him she hadn't seen me for a few weeks - the day after I'd got her emergency cash, taken her for vaccinations and to the supermarket.
But she hasn't got dementia no, no. She can't understand why anyone would think that as her memory is fine and she doesn't need any help.

Completely understand this as my DC stopped using the bathroom at my parents house some time ago so we now stop at the motorway services on the way there & back instead. I wouldn't mind but DM has a cleaner. It's just that she doesn't clean in-between the 2 weekly visit.

I'm also having mum problems as I don't think she's been taking her gastric tablets. Her latest endoscopy showed a worsening of her oesophagitis and I know she was issued with 4 weeks of tablets which would have run out on Tuesday if she was taking the correct amount. I am angry that she shows so little regard for her health and that I'm expected to take her to all the hospital appointments this results in.

countrygirl99 · 20/10/2023 10:14

@WhatHaveIFound I'm going to stock on loo cleaning products for my next visit. It's possible that she's just run out and forgets to buy more given the rest of the house is OK. I know from February's mouse infestation that she doesn't necessarily click that something is a problem - she just shook the mouse poo out of a mug before going to make me a cup of tea! Took me and DS all afternoon to clean the kitchen cupboards and contents but the next day she'd forgotten it happened.

TheShellBeach · 20/10/2023 10:30

WhatHaveIFound · 20/10/2023 09:50

Completely understand this as my DC stopped using the bathroom at my parents house some time ago so we now stop at the motorway services on the way there & back instead. I wouldn't mind but DM has a cleaner. It's just that she doesn't clean in-between the 2 weekly visit.

I'm also having mum problems as I don't think she's been taking her gastric tablets. Her latest endoscopy showed a worsening of her oesophagitis and I know she was issued with 4 weeks of tablets which would have run out on Tuesday if she was taking the correct amount. I am angry that she shows so little regard for her health and that I'm expected to take her to all the hospital appointments this results in.

Could you tell her you're not going to take her if she isn't cooperating with treatment?

Newmum738 · 20/10/2023 13:03

EmmaEmerald · 19/10/2023 17:29

Hi all

this might seem an odd question to ask here but I feel like you all know me best in terms of helping me get clarity

And you certainly know all the stress of elderly parents and how it warps your brain

To recap - i moved partly to be close to mum and save on the horrible train journey, having to spend nights there etc, and partly to escape an area that was turning to shit.

but sadly the new build property I've moved into is not good - loads of issues, of course the building ccompany is fulky legalky covered and I have tried and failed at dealing with them.

I am so completely broken I don't feel able to rent either of them out. But my original home needs about 3k electrical work before it can be rented out anyway.

I am very homesick for my old flat (but not the area which is a shithole). Plus, I'm in a smaller flat and now I can't use space at mum's, I'm really struggling, total cabin fever, and winter will be worse. I prefer not to go out in winter.

I can say up front that my choice - if I could face packing etc, would be to be pull out of the sale and go home for the winter at least.

But then I'm stuck with two properties, two sets of mgmt fees, the possibility that mum will produce another crisis etc etc.

Of course, my buyer is now - after five months - saying he can exchange "very soon".

I know if I sell up, I will be weeping for the home I should not have left. I've already done that a few times here. But I also stand to lose a lot of money - actual cash - if I keep them both.

Plus the relentlessly awful process that is now property sales - I'll have to do it all over again - on a high rise with a tripartite lease, that's £2k in legal fees this tome. No doubt the price will rise next time.

I don't know what to do. I know what decision makes me happy, but that decision will cost me at least £10k for a possible six months of feeling better? And I'm sure mum will have another crisis - and I can't give that responsibility to anyone else.

I don't know what to do. I don't want to make a worse mistake. In the new place, the soundproofing is so bad, it only takes next door to have a baby and I'll need to poke my eardrums out with a cocktail stick.

Any thoughts? Maybe in six months, I'll be sufficiently recovered to rent out the new flat? I had my breakdown in late July and still feel dreadful.

thanks for any thoughts.

Pull out! It doesn't sound like you're ready and it will just be a load of hassle and unhappiness.

WhatHaveIFound · 20/10/2023 13:12

@countrygirl99 I deep cleaned my mum's kitchen last time she in hospital overnight and stealth clean most times I visit. She always tells me not to bother and that the cleaner will do it but I can't stand the mess.

@TheShellBeach that's probably worth a try though I know I'll feel guilty that she has no one else.

countrygirl99 · 20/10/2023 13:22

@WhatHaveIFound that's the plan, just need to work out how to sneak in bleach etc😆. The bathroom cupboardwhere cleaning stuff is normally kept was bare so I couldn't do a sneak clean this time. I know if I say anything she will be puzzled how it got that bad because she will be convinced she cleans it regularly. I do suspect she has run out, forgotten to buy more because she doesn't keep a list to update as things run out but decides what to buy in the shop. She will look in the cupboard and think I'll skip this week must buy next Tuesday, forget well before Tuesday. And so on forgetting that she skipped last week and several weeks before. If I do a sneak clean and leave stuff in the cupboard we may possibly get back to normal. Kitchen and living room were fine.

countrygirl99 · 20/10/2023 14:15

@thesandwich the cistern is built in behind cladding and I'm not sure how to get to it with dismantling the whole wall. Mum never liked seeing cisterns. Now I'm facing this issue I'm determined never to buy a house with a hidden cistern.

thesandwich · 20/10/2023 14:58

Ahhh! Under the rim block thing?

countrygirl99 · 20/10/2023 15:05

Hadn't thought of that. Good idea.

Nodancingshoes · 20/10/2023 16:19

Same with the bathroom at my nans. The rest of the house is fine (if rather cluttered) but the bathroom smells. I always put bleach down the toilet when I visit but it smells quite strongly. I will have to bite the bullet and clean it but I'm not relishing the thought...

Nodancingshoes · 20/10/2023 19:19

It's been a hard week. Work has been mega busy, I've had parents evening, 6 ton of washing to do and my sister has been away. I know my nan thinks that we are not doing enough but I can't make more hours in the day. I've been in to her every other day and my neice went in once aswell. I've thought about maybe increasing the carers to evenings too but, tbh, she doesn't let them do anything except make her bed and porridge every morning so would it be worth it.. I know she is lonely but I don't physically feel I can go and just sit there with her listening to the stories of her health and medications anymore than I do. She lives in a development for over 60's with a social room but she won't join in with anything they do anymore - she did used to. I guess she is 98 and I should just let her moan on and on but it is draining it actually gives me a physical pain in my head. Sorry for the moan - just wanted to offload. I know it could be much worse and that some of you are in much worse situations. Wishing everyone a peaceful and stress free weekend!!

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 20/10/2023 19:54

Been lurking quite a while but I decided it was time to join in.
My mum had a massive stroke in 2020, wasn't expected to pull through but she did - paralysed, without speech and catheterised, she is still at home with my dad and the customary carer visits. I'm an only so all the support falls to me although I'm much better off than many of you heroes on here. I think I'd have a meltdown if I had to live with them. I go in pretty much every day for at least an hour and spend one full day a week to give dad a break.
really excited as DD13 abd I are off to Venice for 4 days on Monday. It's the first time she's flown since 2019 abd she's very excited indeed, I only told her yesterday.
really looking forward to a break from it all. And the phone ringing...

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/10/2023 09:09

Nodancingshoes · 20/10/2023 16:19

Same with the bathroom at my nans. The rest of the house is fine (if rather cluttered) but the bathroom smells. I always put bleach down the toilet when I visit but it smells quite strongly. I will have to bite the bullet and clean it but I'm not relishing the thought...

Might have soaked into the floor if she splashes.

OP posts:
Nodancingshoes · 21/10/2023 10:08

@MereDintofPandiculation maybe. Mind you I've got 2 teenage boys so if I didn't clean it, our bathroom would smell like that too!! 🤣

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/10/2023 11:39

Some good news for the thread instead:

Ever since the coronation, my father has had a TV in his room, which he is now watching enthusiastically. Tipping Point! Aargh!! Goodness knows what he makes of it all. It makes a change from him asking me if I've spoken to his aunt Emily (who would be about 130 years old), and telling me that the nursing home is staffed by people on Community Service.

So I was astonished on Thursday that he was telling me that there was flooding in Scotland, that he was up to date with Israel, that he recognised Sunak and had strong views on his honesty.

OP posts:
countrygirl99 · 21/10/2023 12:22

Crikey @MereDintofPandiculation that sounds a huge turn around.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/10/2023 12:39

countrygirl99 · 21/10/2023 12:22

Crikey @MereDintofPandiculation that sounds a huge turn around.

Not so much a turn around but a glimpse into a bit of him I haven’t seen recently.

OP posts:
Mum5net · 21/10/2023 12:41

‘Golden time’ is what my DSis and I called that @MereDintofPandiculation. My DM did this once every couple of years. Just a tiny window of lucidity when she would ask about my DMil and knew who we all were. It made everything seem better for a while. Lovely for you and him.

funnelfan · 21/10/2023 13:48

Welcome @StiffyByngsDogBartholomew

Swipe left for the next trending thread