Sick and tired of this... [sad]

[DemiLee33]

Hello everyone and thanks for listening.

I am at breaking point with my son's secondary school teachers/policies.

For I.E for ridiculous, unwarranted punishments.
Detentions for not having a pen or a shirt untucked.
Most good students in secondary schools are in I.e at least once within their first 2 years of starting. Most students have had at least 10 detentions by the time they have completed year 8.

Once again I have been in meetings, lodged complaints, cried on the phone to them. My son has cried and is so low in mood now because he feels beaten down by them. I have had 2 teachers admit to me that a lot of 'normal' 'good' kids are in i.e or on report.

Their policies are awful! Nationwide, secondary schools are so extreme with their punishments for such ridiculous, unwarranted reasons. Some schools have even started saturday morning detentions!!
I am so tired of not having my voice heard. Anyone else feeling like this? I have started up a fb group to vent about this and it may take off it may not. I have emailed relevant organisations and lodged complaints but these schools are a law unto themselves.

Sorry for moaning
xx

Omg that sounds ridiculous.
Look into options to move your son in September- the school found out of touch and uncaring.

Sound out of touch

Would it be possible to move him?
When the dc started their comp in Year 7 I remember feeling like they were very detention happy compared to how i remembered things. But once the dc got into the swing of remembering what they need, they can go whole years without getting a detention, as long as they do homework and behave themselves. So not all secondary schools are like that and it might be worth moving.

Can he not just tuck his shirt in and remember to bring a pen?
DS's school are the same. He's well behaved too, but got detention for losing his calculator today.

What would your behaviour policy be then ?

Do you work in a school ?

Why can't he have a pen in his bag and tuck his shirt in? They're not asking for the moon on a stick...why are you in meetings crying because he's lost his pen again?

How many times has he not had a pen?

If you don’t agree with the school’s behaviour policies, move your child or help your son to bring a pen to lesson. I know it is a difficult thing to do but he can do it with help, support and unconditional love.

I know it is a difficult thing to do but he can do it with help, support and unconditional love
Seriously!
Tell him to tuck his shirt in and carry a pen. It's hardly difficult , is it? It certainly doesn't need help, support and unconditional love-just a bit of common sense!

I think GHGN was being sarcastic

My DD2 has ASD and can be forgetful. I decided before she started Secondary School that I would buy her an organiser folder. There is a slot for every subject, so she can keep her books/work/handouts organised. She has her pens/pencils in a pencil case which stays in her bag, and she uses different pens/pencils/ruler for homework. Would that help your DS?

I know it is a difficult thing to do but he can do it with help, support and unconditional love
Seriously!
Tell him to tuck his shirt in and carry a pen. It's hardly difficult , is it? It certainly doesn't need help, support and unconditional love-just a bit of common sense!

I know it is a difficult thing to do but he can do it with help, support and unconditional love
Seriously!
Tell him to tuck his shirt in and carry a pen. It's hardly difficult , is it? It certainly doesn't need help, support and unconditional love-just a bit of common sense!

I know it is a difficult thing to do but he can do it with help, support and unconditional love
Seriously!
Tell him to tuck his shirt in and carry a pen. It's hardly difficult , is it? It certainly doesn't need help, support and unconditional love-just a bit of common sense!

Sorry, it seems to have posted several times!
I also clearly need to set my sarcasm-meter a little lower!

Sorry, it seems to have posted several times!
I also clearly need to set my sarcasm-meter a little lower!

What punishment do you think your DS should receive when he breaks the rules?

Not being goady, I'm genuinely curious.

So good it clearly needed repeating ( and if this posts twice too, I have gremlins!)

Honestly? I’d expect an untucked bit of shirt to lead to a “tidy yourself up” instruction. Not what I assume is “internal exclusion” so missing teaching. Totally ott and counter productive imo for something not affecting anybody’s learning.

Their policies are awful! Nationwide, secondary schools are so extreme with their punishments for such ridiculous, unwarranted reasons. Some schools have even started saturday morning detentions!!

Oh. Hello Daily Mail. Quiet news day?

Most good students in secondary schools are in I.e at least once within their first 2 years of starting. Most students have had at least 10 detentions by the time they have completed year 8.

& what do you bases these statistics on? My DC managed to complete years R to 12 without a single IE or detention and I would imagine the majority of their friends are the same.

I agree with pp

I have 2 boys at a very very strict secondary (in Y8 and Y9)

Neither have had any discipline issues or detentions

My second child is justvagvthe and of year 11. Neither of them has ever had an internal exclusion and my youngest has had no detentions . My eldest had one lunchtime one once for throwing bits of sandwich at a seagull. He was in year 7 then.

I teach, and am a y8 tutor at a standard comprehensive
I have numerous kids in my tutor group who have yet to have a negative, let alone a detention or isolation. Those who get detentions or iso are very much in the minority ( very much so)
Suggest telling your kid to follow basic instructions, if he struggles help get his stuff ready the day before.