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Daughter accused of being racist

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Loopylou19861234 · 08/09/2018 15:27

oopylou19861234

Hello i am not sure if this is the right place to post but here goes.... i need advice please.
Yes yesterday I had a phone call from my daughter's stating that there had been an incident of a raciel nature full stop when I enquired what had happened I was told that during a game on the playground my 7 year old daughter had referred to a boy as the Black Boy this was used in descriptive nature not as an insult but nevertheless she was pulled out of class for the rest of the day but up for racial insults which is going on her permanent record and is being referred to the board as a serious matter I am very confused over this matter as I don't think it's true or correct that my daughter has been branded a racist by the school what can i do?

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peteneras · 08/09/2018 15:49

You ought to think very seriously about pulling your 7-year-old DD out from that damn school. She won't be learning anything in there except bigotry - certainly not getting an education which I'm sure you sent her there in the first place. Bloody ridiculous!

starryeyed19 · 08/09/2018 16:08

Who told you what had happened? The school? You need to have a look at their policies and see what they define as racism or ask someone to explain it to you

Plus, there are other ways to describe someone. I'm guessing your 7 year old doesn't say "the white boy" often?

OnwardMarch · 08/09/2018 16:14

Starry -
Yes, but if there is only one black boy amongst the group of boys OP's Dd was referring to there is nothing wrong with saying the 'black boy', its an easy identifier and black people or the sane ones i know, do not object to this. This type of nonsense does not help race relations at all, its just going to make the little girl scared of making friends with ethnic minorities in case she gets pulled up for saying something wrong.

starryeyed19 · 08/09/2018 16:25

I think there might be more to it tbh. It seems overkill on the part of the school to react this way. Who heard her say it? Where? In what context?

I get that you might find it a little extreme and that most "sane" people might find it OK but it's generally acknowledged that defining someone by their race is a form of othering. She's 7, I don't expect her to be clued up on racial politics or anything, it just seems like a really odd situation.

Moominfan · 08/09/2018 16:31

Is there more to this? Was referring to the "black boy" necessary? What was the rest of the conversation?

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 16:43

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WhatFreshHellisCis · 08/09/2018 16:48

@3girlmama have you just deliberately used a massive racial insult in fake wide eyed innocence? Grim Angry

LaMainDeFatima · 08/09/2018 16:50

The word black isn’t derogatory . The intention wasn’t derogatory . We should ignore people’s ethnic origins. He is black. It is a correct statement .

They need to concentrate on the real issues of racism that will be happening in the school .

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 16:54

I think I must have typed something offensive without realising it.....

missyB1 · 08/09/2018 16:58

Oh God it’s this kind of bollocks that prevents really racist issues from being taken seriously. A seven year old child still tends to say what they see, and why would they think the word black was offensive? She wasn’t “othering” because 7 year olds don’t consciously think that way. Like pp said if she had described a red head or blonde haired child by the colour of their hair no one would have batted an eyelid.

I honestly despair about what some schools are teaching kids.

Cjoness93 · 08/09/2018 16:59

@3girlmama .. you just said "she was calling a spade a spade".. do you not get how that is racist and offensive? Shocked

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 17:00

Thank you @missyB1
You've said what I said and I don't see anything wrong with what I said so why have I been told I've been racist by a P.O.?!

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 17:00

Pp not op

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 17:03

@Cjoness93
Oh for goodness sake
It's a saying, like saying 'adding 2 and 2 and getting 5'
What it means, ergo what I mean, is she was saying as she saw. She saw a black child and said the black boy. Is she saw a spade she would say a spade. I really am not a racist and feel really offended you even think that from one comment
Far too over sensitive

Cjoness93 · 08/09/2018 17:05

@3girlmama
Definitely not too sensitive at all. Use better words. It's not hard. Use the counting analogy rather using a word that was used as a racist, derogatory word. It was a very stupid thing to say.

honeysucklejasmine · 08/09/2018 17:06

A lot of children think that to describe someone by their ethnicity is racist. They go to quite extravagant lengths to avoid saying "the black one" or "the Chinese one" when legitimately describing someone. I used to work in an international college and it was very common.

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 17:06

When has spade ever been a racist word 😳🤔

Bluecloudyskies · 08/09/2018 17:06

loopy you need to get in the school on Monday and fight your dds case.

It was unfair for them to label her a racist.

honeysucklejasmine · 08/09/2018 17:07

Cjoness was spade used as a racial slur? I didn't know that. Will have to look in to it and remove it from my vocab.

Ginorchoc · 08/09/2018 17:07

It is considered racist due to the word spade being used as a derogatory nickname for a black person. I’m aware it’s a racist term, maybe because I’m from London, I’m in a city now very behind and very white! I’ve heard it used here before and they didn’t have a clue of the history but they also use other words such as coloured and call me ridiculous when I challenge them.

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 17:09

I have just googled 'is a spade a racial slur' and it appears it is! Well I never ever knew that!
It refers to the spade on a playing card I believe!?

the expression "to call a spade a spade." For almost half a millennium, the phrase has served as a demand to "tell it like it is." It is only in the past century that the phrase began to acquire a negative, racial overtone.

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 17:09

I've learned something new today!

honeysucklejasmine · 08/09/2018 17:10

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade

Apparently it's a very old saying, with the tool updated to reflect the times. Greek origin. But in 20th century "spade" was used as a slur for African Americans so there can be confusion on your meaning. Hmm, learned something new today.

upsideup · 08/09/2018 17:10

Why didnt she use his name?

3girlmama · 08/09/2018 17:11

I inserted a quote from the page I found online. Honestly didn't know so to anyone I caused offence to, I apologise.
Things change meanings I guess
Like gay years ago was happy but now is homosexual