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Living together during divorce while he moves on and I parent alone

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whatis44 · Yesterday 23:45

Living through a divorce whilst still living in the same house is honestly one of the hardest things I’ve ever experienced. Every day feels emotionally draining and I genuinely don’t know anymore whether I’m expecting too much or whether most people would struggle with this situation too.

I work full time whilst also carrying the majority of the day-to-day parenting, such as every single school drop off and pick up, school admin, appointments, clubs, routines, cooking, emotional load, dog walking and all the invisible jobs that keep family life functioning. I’ve tried incredibly hard to keep things calm, stable and amicable for our two children despite everything happening behind closed doors.

Meanwhile, he seems to be living a completely separate life with very little thought for the impact on me or the children. He exercises every single day, three evenings a week after work and now even two 4am morning sessions as well. All while I’m left carrying the emotional load, the day-to-day responsibilities and trying to keep life stable for our kids.

It feels like he’s been able to prioritise his own freedom, routine and social life without ever really stopping to consider what that means for the rest of us or how much pressure it leaves me under.

The part I’m struggling with most is being told that we need to stay “amicable for the sake of the children” whilst also having to deal with behaviour that feels deeply disrespectful.

After telling me he was unhappy and after we both came to the heartbreaking decision that divorce was the only option, he met up with another woman the very next day to tell her the news.

Since then, there have been multiple meet-ups, Saturday morning runs together, evening exercise classes and now even morning classes too. And whats hurt almost as much as the situation itself is the dishonesty around it. There have been times I’ve asked where he’s been and been lied to and I know I was lied to because I could see his location on Life360, which he didn’t realise I still had access to.

All the while, I’ve constantly been reassured that “she’s just a friend.” Yet I see photos of the two of them running together alone on social media, while I’m at home trying to process the breakdown of our marriage and hold everything together emotionally for the children.

Maybe some people would genuinely feel comfortable with that situation. Maybe some people could separate it emotionally. But honestly, I can’t. To me, it feels deeply disrespectful and incredibly painful.

What’s making me feel completely mentally exhausted is the contradiction of being asked to peacefully live together and keep things friendly whilst trust is being chipped away at constantly. It’s hard enough trying to process a marriage ending without feeling like you’re also expected to quietly tolerate secrecy and dishonesty at the same time.

I know relationships break down and nobody is perfect. I’m genuinely trying to be reasonable and self-aware here, which is why I’m asking would most people accept this as part of separation and I need to become more understanding, or is this actually a really unfair and emotionally difficult situation for someone to be expected to live with day in, day out?

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Namechangerage · Yesterday 23:51

Can you address the imbalance of the childcare without bringing emotion into it? What will your arrangement be when you sell the house?

He’s being an insensitive, selfish, utter bellend. But as he has moved on mentally, I think you need to be factual, stern and make him do his bit. Can you take up a hobby or standing appointment to have your own time? Book a week away and tell him you need time to process? I am so sorry you’re going through this, it sounds awful.

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · Yesterday 23:53

The 14 months I spent living with XDH while we were divorcing was excrutiating; you have my sympathy.

There are two separate issues here

  • him checking out of all parental responsibilities and leaving you to pick up the pieces. Is this how things always were? How has it ended up like this? What plans are there for the children’s living arrangements when you split and why can’t you start modelling that now?
  • the other woman and the deception around that. In all honesty I think this is pretty much inevitable and you’d be better off letting it lie. Stop tracking him, try to learn to live with him being with another woman. He’s being massively inconsiderate but this is an inevitable part of your future.
TheSmallAssassin · Yesterday 23:54

It is really unfair and you shouldn't be expected to live with it, why are you? He either needs to move out, or split the childcare 50-50 as would be the expected starting point for when you are divorced. Why haven't you told the children you are separating, how old are they?

Please do not let him sleep in the same room (let alone bed) as you, or do any of his washing or food prep! He really is taking the piss.

Staceyeatscarrots · Yesterday 23:59

He really is a selfish wanker, isn’t he.
I agree with PP that you need to insist on him picking up half the load of running the household. Why should he swan about like a single person while you are run ragged?
Would it be easier on you if he moved out? If so, then suggest that but he still has to do his share of looking after the children.
Honestly you are well shot of him but I understand you might not be at the stage of realising that yet

whatis44 · Today 00:04

We haven’t yet started mediation as he’s dragging his heels. He does not want to go down the solicitors route as it’s too expensive so mediation is our starting point yet it took him over 3 weeks to agree to a mediator. I then gave him a deadline to confirm to one which he has now done but hasn’t booked his MIAM even though the mediator messaged him on Tuesday.

I have questioned childcare and the main reason we are divorcing is because he believes he does his fair share of picking one of our daughters up from a club twice a week and cooks for her. I asked him now he’s able to get up in the morning and do 4am fitness classes maybe he could take the dog for a walk and make our youngest her lunch on the other days. His response was “you earn enough money to pay for a dog walker”.

We have told our kids we are divorcing and have not been in the same bed for over 2 months.

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Staceyeatscarrots · Today 00:07

Why is it always the man who thinks he can just dump his responsibilities?
Im so sorry you are going through this, OP

whatis44 · Today 00:08

As we haven’t yet been to mediation, nothing has been agreed. He won’t move out as he doesn’t believe he should have to. We are also in agreement that we will split the kids 50/50 but I know in reality he can’t do that. Is this something we discuss now or should it be discussed in mediation as I know he won’t be able to drop or pick our kids up. He thinks because I earn much more than him and have more flexibility with my job that I should be doing more of the day-to-day responsibilities.

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OneNewEagle · Today 00:29

He needs to start doing his share of parenting. So half the week it’s your responsibility the other half it is his. And each of you eow.

so from next week decide which days you are doing it would be easiest to go for mon until wed lunch. Wed lunch until Fri and then the weekend depending on whose turn it is.

if he doesn’t want to be married to you this is how his life now is. It is that simple.

plus just saw there’s a dog whoever covers the kids also covers the pets.

NZDreaming · Today 00:36

@whatis44 i don’t have any experience in this area but it sounds like you are in a very difficult situation. My only advice would be to give yourself some grace, you are dealing with an awful lot and need to be kind to yourself.

You need to grieve your marriage, the loss of what you had and the hopes you had for the future. You are allowed to have all the emotions, there is no right way to deal with this. He is being awful and I can understand how painful that must be, the person you loved and trusted most in the world is hurting you (intentionally or not) and you no longer have that person to provide you with support and comfort. He is not your friend, he is just the other parent of your children.

Technically he doesn’t have to leave the house but perhaps you should, just for a bit, to give yourself a break and the chance to take care of yourself. Even if it’s just for the weekend and you go to a hotel, lie in bed, watch movies and cry, allow yourself that time. Leave him to deal with the children and when you come back, be civil but nothing more than is necessary.

You are so strong and will no doubt find strength you didn’t know you had to get through this but remember to be kind to yourself too.

whatis44 · Today 06:01

Namechangerage · Yesterday 23:51

Can you address the imbalance of the childcare without bringing emotion into it? What will your arrangement be when you sell the house?

He’s being an insensitive, selfish, utter bellend. But as he has moved on mentally, I think you need to be factual, stern and make him do his bit. Can you take up a hobby or standing appointment to have your own time? Book a week away and tell him you need time to process? I am so sorry you’re going through this, it sounds awful.

@Namechangerage i wish I could address the imbalance. I brought this up a week ago and he flat out refused because he says he can’t afford it. We have agreed to split our finances 60/40 (he pays 40%) and then he said if he has to do drop off and pick up he will only be able to pay 25%.

No idea what he’s going to do when we are living in our separate houses (which is another major issue) but right now I’m pulling my hair out as I don’t have a life at all.

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Sosadsad · Today 06:14

Do you rent or own the house? How long will it be before you or him moves out? Find a hobby that’s around the time the kids have their clubs so their dad will have to take them.

yellowduckieswalking · Today 06:15

As PP have said, this is two separate issues. Hé has done nothing wrong in terms of his friendship with another woman nor is he required to tell you where he is going. You have both agreed to divorce and he has moved on.

However, he is not doing his fair share of the parenting or housework and this is not ok. This does need to be addressed. I used AI to set up a custody agreement (I am in a similar situation, still co sharing whilst we clear debt Hé secretly ran up) and now that we have this in place, it is much more manageable. But, it is bloody hard work!

start to play around with what you want, and engineer the logistics of this so that you has thiught it all out before you go for mediation. This way you have not been passive and considered thé family dynamics. Be as factual as possible.

Good luck

whatis44 · Today 06:15

@Namechangerage thank you for your reply and I do agree with keeping things factual and stern. The issue I have is when I bring up sharing the responsibilities equally he believes he already does his fair share (😂). He then says he can’t afford to start work at 9am and leave at 3pm so if I want him to do pick ups and drop offs he won’t be able to afford his share of the bills (which is utter rubbish. He just hates the fact that I earn more than him and doesn’t think it’s fair that I have more money to my name!). I did finally get him to agree to splitting the bills 60/40 (he pays 40%) but that was a major challenge.

No idea what he’s going to do when we are living in our separate houses (which is another major issue) but right now I’m pulling my hair out as I don’t have a life at all and he won’t agree to any school pick up or drop off.

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whatis44 · Today 06:20

@LadyGardenersQuestionTime thank you for your reply. Yes this is how things have always been. I’ve genuinely tried to address it but he honestly believes he does his fair share already 😂 He then says he can’t afford to start work at 9am and leave at 3pm so if I want him to do pick ups and drop offs he won’t be able to afford his share of the bills (which is utter rubbish. He just hates the fact that I earn more than him and doesn’t think it’s fair that I have more money to my name!). I did finally get him to agree to splitting the bills 60/40 (he pays 40%) but that was a major challenge.

No idea what he’s going to do when we are living in our separate houses (which is another major issue) but right now I’m pulling my hair out as I don’t have a life at all and he won’t agree to any school pick up or drop off.

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Soontobe60 · Today 06:21

OneNewEagle · Today 00:29

He needs to start doing his share of parenting. So half the week it’s your responsibility the other half it is his. And each of you eow.

so from next week decide which days you are doing it would be easiest to go for mon until wed lunch. Wed lunch until Fri and then the weekend depending on whose turn it is.

if he doesn’t want to be married to you this is how his life now is. It is that simple.

plus just saw there’s a dog whoever covers the kids also covers the pets.

Don’t do this - the children will be the ones who will be affected by his lack of parenting.
OP, one of you needs to leave. Get an EA in to put the house on the market, make sure all your finances are split, make sure all the paperwork for the divorce is in order.

FairyMaclary · Today 06:23

He’s an arse. I’m guessing the woman was waiting in the wings.

But you need to find a way to feel as good as you can. Are you wanting 50/50? If not I’d note the schedules and make it clear he can’t do 50/50. Does he want 50/50 to get more assets? That is my assumption.

I would put more deadlines on the mediation. Jim I’m not sure why you are stalling - please book your session or should we just contact lawyers?

I would reframe how you feel about the situation. You are really lucky to be spending more time with the children at this time. So create more fun rituals. Spend more time doing things with them. Write down a list of things you enjoy doing - smaller free things (tea in your favourite cup watching the sun rise, read 4 pages of your fave book, dance in the living room) slightly larger things in the near future (learn to crochet, learn a dance routine from YouTube, go camping in June) and longer term plans (holiday to Peru, redesign your bedroom).

Write what things you enjoy in life. What you are going to change. Get your kids involved in making the lists. Then do some of them together. The lists can be added to when you have brain space. But you can pluck one from the list when you are having a tough day - make chocolate brownies for packed lunches. But reframe all as a new start. Fresh chapter. Our new family life.

Playlist - call it Chapter 2. Only add songs you hear from today. The song can be old but you can’t know it. Listen for songs in cafes, at friends houses, on tv, in school productions, ones your kids share. You could get the kids involved in this too. If you are down it jogs newer more positive memories rather than ones from the past.

Is he really going to have the kids 50/50? How is that really going to work?

whatis44 · Today 06:23

@yellowduckieswalking thank you for replying and I thought this would be the case regarding the new women, it’s just a very hard pill to swallow 😢

The issue I have re sharing responsibilities equally is he believes he already does his fair share (😂). He then says he can’t afford to start work at 9am and leave at 3pm so if I want him to do pick ups and drop offs he won’t be able to afford his share of the bills (which is utter rubbish. He just hates the fact that I earn more than him and doesn’t think it’s fair that I have more money to my name!). I did finally get him to agree to splitting the bills 60/40 (he pays 40%) but that was a major challenge.

No idea what he’s going to do when we are living in our separate houses (which is another major issue) but right now I’m pulling my hair out as I don’t have a life at all and he won’t agree to any school pick up or drop off.

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Soontobe60 · Today 06:23

whatis44 · Today 06:20

@LadyGardenersQuestionTime thank you for your reply. Yes this is how things have always been. I’ve genuinely tried to address it but he honestly believes he does his fair share already 😂 He then says he can’t afford to start work at 9am and leave at 3pm so if I want him to do pick ups and drop offs he won’t be able to afford his share of the bills (which is utter rubbish. He just hates the fact that I earn more than him and doesn’t think it’s fair that I have more money to my name!). I did finally get him to agree to splitting the bills 60/40 (he pays 40%) but that was a major challenge.

No idea what he’s going to do when we are living in our separate houses (which is another major issue) but right now I’m pulling my hair out as I don’t have a life at all and he won’t agree to any school pick up or drop off.

Do your DC not go to wrap around childcare before and after school? Because once you’re living apart, if he has them 50/50, he will likely need this.How old are the DC?

SoScarletItWas · Today 06:28

Does he work for himself? I ask because he said he can’t afford to start at 9 and finish at 3. What’s his job? I’m amazed that he’s too dim to see he could do business admin from home 7-830. Well, I know he knows. He just doesn’t want to.

The 60/40 bill split will be academic when you live in separate houses so deflect that every time he brings it up.

whatis44 · Today 06:33

@Soontobe60 no I’m in a job that allows me flexibility with the school runs and because I WFH every day I’m always here. The children are 12/9. The older one takes herself off to school but the younger one still needs taking and picking up. He might have to use after school club when he has them 50/50 but the kids will be affected by that as they’re so used to me being here and won’t understand why it has changed. I’m more than happy to have full custody of my kids but he doesn’t want that.

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whatis44 · Today 06:34

@SoScarletItWas yes he’s self employed.

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whatis44 · Today 06:38

@Sosadsad this is another big issue. We own the house but it needs a little bit of work doing to it. We have extended it massively but haven’t yet finished (9 years later!) and he won’t put the house on the market until he’s finished the family bathroom (we’ve extended and now just need to add the suite in) But just to put things in perspective, he hasn’t done anything to the house for almost 2 years. He says he needs as much equity in the house as possible so needs to add the bathroom, but yet he won’t do anything about it.

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Puppalicious · Today 06:40

Why on earth are you agreeing to a 50:50 when it’s clear he wouldn’t be able
to stick to it? I think you need to contact solicitors asap, right now he is really taking the piss. I think you need to find your fight.

Tamtim · Today 06:41

He needs to move out.

whatis44 · Today 06:43

@Puppalicious I totally agree but he’s refusing. We haven’t yet had our MIAMs as it took him over 3 weeks to agree to one. After I gave him a deadline to reply he eventually agreed but he hasn’t yet responded to the mediator to arrange his MIAM who sent us both an email on Tuesday. Mine is booked for Thursday.

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