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Living together during divorce while he moves on and I parent alone

183 replies

whatis44 · Yesterday 23:45

Living through a divorce whilst still living in the same house is honestly one of the hardest things I’ve ever experienced. Every day feels emotionally draining and I genuinely don’t know anymore whether I’m expecting too much or whether most people would struggle with this situation too.

I work full time whilst also carrying the majority of the day-to-day parenting, such as every single school drop off and pick up, school admin, appointments, clubs, routines, cooking, emotional load, dog walking and all the invisible jobs that keep family life functioning. I’ve tried incredibly hard to keep things calm, stable and amicable for our two children despite everything happening behind closed doors.

Meanwhile, he seems to be living a completely separate life with very little thought for the impact on me or the children. He exercises every single day, three evenings a week after work and now even two 4am morning sessions as well. All while I’m left carrying the emotional load, the day-to-day responsibilities and trying to keep life stable for our kids.

It feels like he’s been able to prioritise his own freedom, routine and social life without ever really stopping to consider what that means for the rest of us or how much pressure it leaves me under.

The part I’m struggling with most is being told that we need to stay “amicable for the sake of the children” whilst also having to deal with behaviour that feels deeply disrespectful.

After telling me he was unhappy and after we both came to the heartbreaking decision that divorce was the only option, he met up with another woman the very next day to tell her the news.

Since then, there have been multiple meet-ups, Saturday morning runs together, evening exercise classes and now even morning classes too. And whats hurt almost as much as the situation itself is the dishonesty around it. There have been times I’ve asked where he’s been and been lied to and I know I was lied to because I could see his location on Life360, which he didn’t realise I still had access to.

All the while, I’ve constantly been reassured that “she’s just a friend.” Yet I see photos of the two of them running together alone on social media, while I’m at home trying to process the breakdown of our marriage and hold everything together emotionally for the children.

Maybe some people would genuinely feel comfortable with that situation. Maybe some people could separate it emotionally. But honestly, I can’t. To me, it feels deeply disrespectful and incredibly painful.

What’s making me feel completely mentally exhausted is the contradiction of being asked to peacefully live together and keep things friendly whilst trust is being chipped away at constantly. It’s hard enough trying to process a marriage ending without feeling like you’re also expected to quietly tolerate secrecy and dishonesty at the same time.

I know relationships break down and nobody is perfect. I’m genuinely trying to be reasonable and self-aware here, which is why I’m asking would most people accept this as part of separation and I need to become more understanding, or is this actually a really unfair and emotionally difficult situation for someone to be expected to live with day in, day out?

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whatis44 · Today 06:44

@Tamtim I absolutely wish he would but he won’t.

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Sosadsad · Today 06:46

whatis44 · Today 06:38

@Sosadsad this is another big issue. We own the house but it needs a little bit of work doing to it. We have extended it massively but haven’t yet finished (9 years later!) and he won’t put the house on the market until he’s finished the family bathroom (we’ve extended and now just need to add the suite in) But just to put things in perspective, he hasn’t done anything to the house for almost 2 years. He says he needs as much equity in the house as possible so needs to add the bathroom, but yet he won’t do anything about it.

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Can you buy him out so the house is only in your name? Not sure if you can force a house sale.

whatis44 · Today 06:49

@Sosadsad yes I can but he wants top dollar for the house and once again we can’t agree on a figure.

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SoScarletItWas · Today 06:52

whatis44 · Today 06:34

@SoScarletItWas yes he’s self employed.

And I’m guessing he’s never done anything like equal school runs in the last 12/9 years? Honestly I think you’re fighting a losing battle there - expecting him to do something different because of the divorce that he wasn’t doing before.

I’m not saying that’s right. But hoping the divorce is the catalyst to change something he wasn’t willing to do even when the relationship was happy is going to send you mad.

Everyone knows he won’t do 50/50 and that’s just him avoiding paying anything as a non-resident parent.

I would focus my energy on selling the house and getting the clean break.

Get some quotes for someone else to finish the bathroom. Again he’s not going to do what he hasn’t done for years.

PP above had it in a nutshell: He doesn’t want to be married; this is his life now. If he’s not doing childcare he moves out until the house is sold. When he pulls his finger out and you start mediation, the focus should be how you separate your lives asap.

Sosadsad · Today 06:53

whatis44 · Today 06:49

@Sosadsad yes I can but he wants top dollar for the house and once again we can’t agree on a figure.

It’s up to the estate agent to value the house, not him. Definitely speak to a lawyer tomorrow and ask how you can force a sale.

SoScarletItWas · Today 06:54

whatis44 · Today 06:49

@Sosadsad yes I can but he wants top dollar for the house and once again we can’t agree on a figure.

Oh good god you hold so many cards here OP! Get the EAs round. Get the bathroom finished yourself. Buy him off. He is a dead weight around you.

cafenoirbiscuit · Today 06:54

Sounds like he wants to have his cake and eat it too.
it doesn’t sound like his life has been compromised or made more difficult at all. He refuses to do more with his kids, or to do anything towards the divorce or getting the house sold, but he has added in lots of time and lovely things for himself. No wonder he’s dragging his heels.

this is not fair on you.

baytreelane23 · Today 06:57

He’s taking the piss. Clearly the OW was already on the scene if he met up with her openly the day after the split, and is now spending all of his spare time with her yet is telling you he can’t help with pick ups / drop offs and around the house.

he’s dragging is feet because right now it’s very cushty for him - you’re doing all of the leg work for him whilst he sees his kids daily, and he’s able to go and date whilst you’re cleaning the kitchen and washing clothes etc..
i hope you’re not still cooking for him, or washing his clothes?

I would find some anger and stop enabling his behaviour, he needs to either finish the house or it’s going on the market regardless!!

Watercooler · Today 07:01

I would be going to an estate agent and get the house on the market. Just take a lower price because of the bathroom.

He also needs to move out. He can have a bedroom in a flat share somewhere.

Otherwise the house will never be finished and he will cocklodge with you for ten years.

MimiSunshine · Today 07:01

Instruct a solicitor and get an estate round. You’re being far too passive, he doesn’t want this, he won’t do that.

you don’t need to wait for him to sort out mediation because he says solicitors are too expensive. Just get on with divorcing him.
yes he may drag his heels but he’s already doing that so just stop letting g him set the pace and take control of the situation for your own and your children’s sake.

SoScarletItWas · Today 07:03

MimiSunshine · Today 07:01

Instruct a solicitor and get an estate round. You’re being far too passive, he doesn’t want this, he won’t do that.

you don’t need to wait for him to sort out mediation because he says solicitors are too expensive. Just get on with divorcing him.
yes he may drag his heels but he’s already doing that so just stop letting g him set the pace and take control of the situation for your own and your children’s sake.

👏 spot on

whatis44 · Today 07:04

@SoScarletItWas unfortunately it is driving me mad. But what do I do when he is refusing to help and also refusing anything less than 50/50 custody? He also refuses to move out.

I honestly wish I could sell the house but he won’t agree to anyone else doing the work. He’s a builder!

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SoScarletItWas · Today 07:08

whatis44 · Today 07:04

@SoScarletItWas unfortunately it is driving me mad. But what do I do when he is refusing to help and also refusing anything less than 50/50 custody? He also refuses to move out.

I honestly wish I could sell the house but he won’t agree to anyone else doing the work. He’s a builder!

How did I know he’d be a builder!!

OP read the post from @MimiSunshine. Read it 12 times. This is what needs to happen. Solicitors will only be expensive if he keeps dragging his heels. As other PP said: he doesn’t want to be married any more. This is his life now. It needs to come to an end.

Aabbcc1235 · Today 07:08

If he’s asking for 50/50 for the kids is there any part of that which you both agree on? For example, if you would rather have the kids in the week but agree that you would alternate every other weekend from fri night to mon morning.

Then implement that immediately and physically leave the house for all of the time and stay somewhere else when it’s his weekend. Do no prepping/sorting/organising/planning. This will be the fastest way to stop him pushing for 50/50 as he’ll suddenly realise the work involved.

If you go to mediation and he pushes for 50/50 then agree to trial 4 weeks and leave the house on your “off weeks”. Again do no sorting/organising/helping etc. This might feel a bit unfair on the kids, but longer term will be better for them than a protracted custody battle.

I agree with pp, get the bathroom finished and the house on the market yourself.

whatis44 · Today 07:10

@MimiSunshine i have had 5 estate agencies round and they all gave roughly the same figure but he disagreed with them. Said he now wants to get more round to which I said fill your boots but guess what, he hasn’t done it.

I honestly don’t know what I can do? My MIAM is scheduled for Thursday so hopefully I’ll find out more then.

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SixAndJuliet · Today 07:12

What a lovely life he has. Lives in his nice home with a housekeeper/nanny for his kids that he doesn’t have to pay and gets to see his girlfriend and has loads of free time on the side. There is absolutely no incentive for him to move forward with the divorce or sell the house as his life would become infinitely harder.

People are telling you to get a solicitor. You NEED to get legal advice and see how you can move this forward. He’s not going to improve in terms of responsibility for the children so I’d give up on that argument. It might be worth keeping a daily diary of who did what in relation to the kids though (he doesn’t need to know this) so if it does end up in family court proceedings, you can evidence how little he is involved, not that it may make a difference.

Please get a solicitor.

oviraptor21 · Today 07:13

He won't have a choice about putting the house on the market if the divorce financial settlement is drawn up properly.
Can you list all the chores you currently do -both you and him - with time allocations and ask for his opinion on it.
I'm not surprised he wants 50:50 as he doesn't want to pay you any child maintenance.
At the moment he's got his head in the sand or is wilfully making the best (most selfish) use of his time until the shit hits the fan.

whatis44 · Today 07:15

@Aabbcc1235 I honestly don’t think he knows what 50/50 actually means. He’s never taken them to the drs, dentist or been off work when they’ve been sick. I did think when we go through mediation that we should trial what a typical 50/50 split would look like and he even suggested 1 week with him and 1 week with me, but when I bring it up he says I will only contribute 25% towards the bills 🤬

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Aabbcc1235 · Today 07:18

whatis44 · Today 07:15

@Aabbcc1235 I honestly don’t think he knows what 50/50 actually means. He’s never taken them to the drs, dentist or been off work when they’ve been sick. I did think when we go through mediation that we should trial what a typical 50/50 split would look like and he even suggested 1 week with him and 1 week with me, but when I bring it up he says I will only contribute 25% towards the bills 🤬

Can you afford the bills with him only paying 25%? If so I’d probably agree that for 4 weeks for a trial.

Seems like he would struggle to do 50/50 even without having to pay the bills so that might well fix the argument….

whatis44 · Today 07:18

@SixAndJuliet I 100% agree with you and I’m so frustrated with myself for allowing this to happen for so long.

I honestly didn’t think I could get a solicitor involved until we had been to see a mediator and had a MIAM?

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SixAndJuliet · Today 07:22

whatis44 · Today 07:18

@SixAndJuliet I 100% agree with you and I’m so frustrated with myself for allowing this to happen for so long.

I honestly didn’t think I could get a solicitor involved until we had been to see a mediator and had a MIAM?

You can get legal advice whenever you want. You need to know what you can do and what your options are.

whatis44 · Today 07:22

@Aabbcc1235 i can afford the bills but why should I? I’ve already allowed him to have the life of luxury for way over a decade so why give him even more luxury when he’d probably spend even more time with the other women and fit in more exercise.

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FairyMaclary · Today 07:22

After reading your updates. Do the kids even want 50/50? The 12 year old is likely to be listened to. The 9 year old may also be listened to if he drags his heels and s/he turns 10.

I would give mediation one go. If he drags his heels then go straight to court.

He is happy with the current situation so he’s in no rush.

whatis44 · Today 07:25

@FairyMaclary tbh I haven’t asked them as I really don’t want to drag them into this hell hole. They do both genuinely love their dad and I want them to see him as much as possible.

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Aabbcc1235 · Today 07:26

whatis44 · Today 07:22

@Aabbcc1235 i can afford the bills but why should I? I’ve already allowed him to have the life of luxury for way over a decade so why give him even more luxury when he’d probably spend even more time with the other women and fit in more exercise.

I understand where you’re coming from, it’s not very fair.

But, thinking pragmatically, it’s a lot lot cheaper as a solution to him wanting 50/50 than going through family court would be. Or than agreeing 50/50 and then ending up doing every other weekend without his maintenance.

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