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Why are wonen greedy........

332 replies

CoparentingDad · 20/07/2024 19:44

......excuse the provocative title, the correct term is 'I'm entitled to xyz'?

I'm genuinely interested to know.

I built up assets - a pension, ISA, a seven figure house, a successful business for 19 years before I even met my exDW.

She did not have anything to do with any of this or contribute in any way.

My exDw brought debt into our relationship which I paid off, she got fired 9 months into our relationship and could never find a job that suited her, so I transferred £2k a month to her bank account (BIG mistake - that sets precedent apparently, so for being generous, you get fucked more on divorce)

We got married in our 30's (me 38, her 34), it’s not like she didn’t have a chance to do these things.

She’d never paid into a pension, bought a house, put into an ISA.

Yes, I know it’s my fault as I’m the mug that married her.

BUT, what makes you feel entitled to things that a man has built up 20 years leading up to meeting him?

Thanks

OP posts:
ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 20/07/2024 20:00

CoparentingDad · 20/07/2024 19:54

Bang on the money - you're right

I had no idea, I now believe before marriage, it should be mandatory to have a meeting with a lawyer to explain the implications.

If you have a setllement agreement with your employer, they need to pay for a legal advice, however marriage is a much more serious commitment, yet you can just do it withour understanding the legal / financial implications.

Go figure.

However that doesn't explain the moral / ethical reasons - what you're saying, is "let's snare a millionaire so I don't have to get my hands dirty with work"

No one shared you. You were an adult and chose to start and stay in this relationship. You weren’t economically disadvantaged so it lot like you couldn’t leave or refuse to marry or even not paid off her debts

It was all choices.

And you earned enough to set yourself up, give her 2k a month and got to 38 without understanding the legal implications of marriage. Not a chance that’s true.

I bet you make sure your business is tax efficient and have a way to make sure you achieve that.

HappierTimesAhead · 20/07/2024 20:00

Aww, poor you for being so dim
Presumably your wife was bringing up your children (if your username is anything to go by) which is incredibly demanding, worthwhile and UNPAID.
Glad she is shot of you

arethereanyleftatall · 20/07/2024 20:00

The above poster has probably got it right.

You traded an inferior personality and inferior looks to her based on your wealth, didn't you? Well, you got what you wanted. Now, she got what she wanted.

CoparentingDad · 20/07/2024 20:00

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Echobelly · 20/07/2024 20:00

If you had kids and she stayed at home and raised them then she played a significant part in enabling your career. Even if you didn't have kids, yes, as others have said, this is generally what marriage entitles one half to, regardless of 'contribution'. I'm sorry you feel taken advantage of in this case, but it is what it is.

WallaceinAnderland · 20/07/2024 20:01

There's a saying,

'A fool and his money are soon parted'

BasiliskStare · 20/07/2024 20:01

@CoparentingDad Well if you have children together that is why you DW ( ex ) will need money - other than that if I am not sure with all your money you should not have consulted a specialist divorce solicitor

But this is nothing to do her being a woman - men can take the piss too

Some negotiation may have helped ?

Buildingthefuture · 20/07/2024 20:01

Jesus! Some of the responses on here are beyond unreasonable. Op, as a man, is no more responsible for the fact that some men are violent or are rapists, than I am as a woman for the fact that some women don’t seem to want to work.
IF ops post is accurate and his wife hasn’t spent however many years raising children, then he is absolutely right. Why SHOULD she think she can take what she has not earned?

Sethera · 20/07/2024 20:01

I'd be interested to hear your ex-wife's side of this story, OP.

GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 20/07/2024 20:02

Oooof what goady thread Confused

MulberryBushRoundabout · 20/07/2024 20:03

Buildingthefuture · 20/07/2024 20:01

Jesus! Some of the responses on here are beyond unreasonable. Op, as a man, is no more responsible for the fact that some men are violent or are rapists, than I am as a woman for the fact that some women don’t seem to want to work.
IF ops post is accurate and his wife hasn’t spent however many years raising children, then he is absolutely right. Why SHOULD she think she can take what she has not earned?

Did you notice his thread title?

OP is not responsible for the actions of other men but seems to think that we are accountable for the actions of his ex wife. That’s why people have taken offence.

CoparentingDad · 20/07/2024 20:03

arethereanyleftatall · 20/07/2024 20:00

The above poster has probably got it right.

You traded an inferior personality and inferior looks to her based on your wealth, didn't you? Well, you got what you wanted. Now, she got what she wanted.

Partly true, as I said earlier, it is ultimatly my fault, I'm just trying to understand why any self respecting women would want half of 20 years of assets they had nothing to do with

#feminism

OP posts:
WeekendFreedom · 20/07/2024 20:03

MonsteraMama · 20/07/2024 19:55

Generally speaking it's because the "wonan" is the one who will sacrifice her career and earning potential in order to carry, birth and raise the children within said marriage, and generally speaking the man will be the one to high tail it into the sunset at the conclusion of said marriage leaving the "wonan" to continue doing a vast majority of the grunt work.

Since being a wife and mother isn't a paid position, that is covered in a splitting of assets in divorce. If you were too dumb to consider this before signing a legal contract, because that is what marriage is, then that's a you problem.

Marriage to a man is a net negative for a woman, and I say that as someone who is very happily married.

In other words, suck it up sunshine.

But this ‘wonan’ didn’t give up work to help raise a family so that doesn’t really apply here

Buildingthefuture · 20/07/2024 20:03

Did you have children with her op?

Cerialkiller · 20/07/2024 20:04

She doesn't sound great but it's you who has written here for judgement so you will be getting the feed back.

If this was a business partnership and your partner acted as your wife did within the first years of your partnership, would you have thought better and tried to remove yourself from the agreement? Would you have stuck around for 10 or 20 years? No. Unfortunately this is the position you are in.

Now depending on circumstances you may not lose as much as she is asking for. If it was a very long marriage, dependent kids then she will get more. If short marriage and no kids it's unlikely she will get the lions share.

As pp said. You obviously liked her enough at one point, you were getting something you wanted and so was she. In law your contribution to the marriage was equal during the time you were legally together because that's what marriage is. An agreement to be one entity.

BleachedJumper · 20/07/2024 20:04

You had no idea about marriage when you went to the registrar and gave your 29 days notice to wed, signing a legal declaration? No idea when you said your vows? No idea when you signed a legally binding marriage certificate?

And you’ve gone and got married again?! But you’re terribly bitter with women - does the current wife support your stance on ‘women’?

Sethera · 20/07/2024 20:04

Buildingthefuture · 20/07/2024 20:03

Did you have children with her op?

He's called himself 'co-parenting dad' so one would assume so.

Hellodarknessmyfriend · 20/07/2024 20:04

Why did you marry a woman with no interest in working or contributing financially in the first place? Surely that was a big red flag?

arethereanyleftatall · 20/07/2024 20:05

Buildingthefuture · 20/07/2024 20:01

Jesus! Some of the responses on here are beyond unreasonable. Op, as a man, is no more responsible for the fact that some men are violent or are rapists, than I am as a woman for the fact that some women don’t seem to want to work.
IF ops post is accurate and his wife hasn’t spent however many years raising children, then he is absolutely right. Why SHOULD she think she can take what she has not earned?

Um. You missed the point completely. The op himself opened with 'why are women' not 'why was my wife' . But well spotted, sweeping generalisations are silly.

BleachedJumper · 20/07/2024 20:05

Buildingthefuture · 20/07/2024 20:01

Jesus! Some of the responses on here are beyond unreasonable. Op, as a man, is no more responsible for the fact that some men are violent or are rapists, than I am as a woman for the fact that some women don’t seem to want to work.
IF ops post is accurate and his wife hasn’t spent however many years raising children, then he is absolutely right. Why SHOULD she think she can take what she has not earned?

But it’s all the wonen!

CoparentingDad · 20/07/2024 20:06

Hellodarknessmyfriend · 20/07/2024 20:04

Why did you marry a woman with no interest in working or contributing financially in the first place? Surely that was a big red flag?

Yep, didn't make that mistake the 2nd time around

OP posts:
Buildingthefuture · 20/07/2024 20:06

@MulberryBushRoundabout IF and please do note I say IF op has not had children with this woman, then it’s understandable that he would think women are “greedy”. If he HAS had children with her? Whole other issue.

arethereanyleftatall · 20/07/2024 20:07

'why any self respecting women would want half of 20 years of assets they had nothing to do with'

Well. Going by your username, you probably have kids. So I can tell you why. She wants it for her kids. Because, generalisation here cos you like that, mothers want the absolute best for their kids. Fathers, men, tend to be far more selfish.

TheCultureHusks · 20/07/2024 20:08

She put you on the list.

Thats all I’m going to say.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 20/07/2024 20:08

Pig ugly eh! Will what you lack in financial acuity you've made up for in charm.