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Why are wonen greedy........

332 replies

CoparentingDad · 20/07/2024 19:44

......excuse the provocative title, the correct term is 'I'm entitled to xyz'?

I'm genuinely interested to know.

I built up assets - a pension, ISA, a seven figure house, a successful business for 19 years before I even met my exDW.

She did not have anything to do with any of this or contribute in any way.

My exDw brought debt into our relationship which I paid off, she got fired 9 months into our relationship and could never find a job that suited her, so I transferred £2k a month to her bank account (BIG mistake - that sets precedent apparently, so for being generous, you get fucked more on divorce)

We got married in our 30's (me 38, her 34), it’s not like she didn’t have a chance to do these things.

She’d never paid into a pension, bought a house, put into an ISA.

Yes, I know it’s my fault as I’m the mug that married her.

BUT, what makes you feel entitled to things that a man has built up 20 years leading up to meeting him?

Thanks

OP posts:
Didsomeonesaydogs · 21/07/2024 07:38

HollyKnight · 20/07/2024 21:21

I'll answer for him.

He has two children with his ex-wife.
He focused on his career so he didn't do much parenting until he and ex-wife separated when he was forced to put in the effort with his children to prove he could do 50/50.
His children are now young teenagers.
One of them has ASD and ADHD.
He has them Fri-Mon EOW and one night during the week. He calls this "nearly 50/50".
He pays circa £1200 CM and £1800 spousal maintenance.
Him and ex-wife were married for 5 years.
Children were 5 and 7 when they split.
Ex-wife was a SAHM.
He met new wife 9 months after splitting up with ex-wife.
New wife doesn't do anything with/for his children.
New wife wants to have a baby before she is 40.

I think this contribution needs to be quoted at least once every page of replies so that anyone responding has the full picture.

Giggorata · 21/07/2024 07:46

Why do men come and make posts like this on Mumsnet?

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 07:51

Anger, resentment, stupidity, greed? But most of all, the hated of #feminism, which some men are so fearful of as they believe it means some sort of check or balance on their behaviour.

poppiepudding · 21/07/2024 07:59

I had no idea, I now believe before marriage, it should be mandatory to have a meeting with a lawyer to explain the implications.

No you are just an idiot and now you are cross with yourself.

NonPlayerCharacter · 21/07/2024 08:23

Giggorata · 21/07/2024 07:46

Why do men come and make posts like this on Mumsnet?

They think we need correcting.

They honestly, truly think that we don't hear enough about what men want in our everyday lives and they will be the ones who can explain it to us, and why we are wrong, and why all their failings and stupidity and shit decisions are our fault, and we will be shamed and cowed and enlightened and bettered. There was one yesterday explaining that men want sex, there was one the other day telling us that raising children wasn't difficult.

They all think they're the first to do it and they all think they are the chosen ones who will break through our conditioning and successfully correct us.

And then they'll be free of their own stupidity and irresponsibility.

RedToothBrush · 21/07/2024 09:51

Giggorata · 21/07/2024 07:46

Why do men come and make posts like this on Mumsnet?

Cos they are really bitter and really hate women and want us to know how much they blame and hate all women.

I pity the new wife.

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 09:52

RedToothBrush · 21/07/2024 09:51

Cos they are really bitter and really hate women and want us to know how much they blame and hate all women.

I pity the new wife.

She's probably been on here for advice.

Superfuryanimal · 21/07/2024 10:33

I'd put money on the OP being some kind of tech entrepreneur with zero emotional intelligence and massive arrogance. Worked with these narrow visioned dick heads for years and they always think women are 'other' and are unable to build equal relationships with them. Everything revolves around them, everyone else is playing a bit part in their lives. They've learned to say the right things but really all women need saving from themselves. The problem with women for them is that they can't be switched off and on again if they don't function as required.

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 10:35

Yes, and he views relationships with women as transactional. If there are children to support he needs to understand that he is liable; if she was a sahm, then she deserves some of his income for those years. If you see women as service givers, it's hard to reconcile.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 21/07/2024 10:37

I haven't read the whole thread but how can @CoparentingDad build up over 700k worth of assets in the space of 20 years (if left school at 16 & straight to work, buying a house and paying into various schemes)?
And then, during the marriage obviously continue to build assets while the DxW was holding his baby?
Marriage is a partnership between 2 people not a financial institution to acumelate more assets.

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 10:44

I wonder if the "assets" included a house which increased in value.
Or a collection of Pokemon cards. Who knows.

Deadringer · 21/07/2024 10:51

NonPlayerCharacter · 20/07/2024 22:03

He earned a fortune without understanding how legal contracts work, he doesn't understand how significant his kids are in the settlement (so he basically still doesn't understand how marriage works) and he's urging everyone not to marry despite having done it a second time.

And he thinks feminism and all women are to blame.

I wouldn't look for sense. Just naked male rage and misogyny. You never have to look far for that.

Nailed it. Though I think he only came on here to boast about his big assets.

NonPlayerCharacter · 21/07/2024 11:01

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 10:44

I wonder if the "assets" included a house which increased in value.
Or a collection of Pokemon cards. Who knows.

It was hotels on Mayfair, wasn't it?

Actually I get his rage now. I refuse to play if I can't be the dog.

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 12:40

NonPlayerCharacter · 21/07/2024 11:01

It was hotels on Mayfair, wasn't it?

Actually I get his rage now. I refuse to play if I can't be the dog.

I know. I always land on Super Tax and there's no loophole.

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 12:40

Deadringer · 21/07/2024 10:51

Nailed it. Though I think he only came on here to boast about his big assets.

Which don't impress us much.

Twototwo15 · 21/07/2024 12:43

Deadringer · 21/07/2024 10:51

Nailed it. Though I think he only came on here to boast about his big assets.

Generally “I’ve got big assets” translates to “I’ve got a small undercarriage”. Not that every rich man is lacking there, just the ones who have to announce it.

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 12:49

Twototwo15 · 21/07/2024 12:43

Generally “I’ve got big assets” translates to “I’ve got a small undercarriage”. Not that every rich man is lacking there, just the ones who have to announce it.

😂

Despair1 · 21/07/2024 13:54

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 20/07/2024 21:16

The legal contract you signed makes her entitled to it.

You are clearly a misogynist, so I don't feel bad for you.

A bit harsh

Despair1 · 21/07/2024 13:59

Didsomeonesaydogs · 21/07/2024 07:38

I think this contribution needs to be quoted at least once every page of replies so that anyone responding has the full picture.

Ex wife has been well supported financially. Not sure if she is working now? Seems unfair that ex wives are still entitled to spousal maintenance?? Makes them dependants

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 21/07/2024 14:57

Despair1 · 21/07/2024 13:54

A bit harsh

It isn't harsh. This man is trying to use a personal situation with his ex wife to push a sexist trope about every "women" in the world. That's misogyny. Tarnishing all women with one vice ("greed" in this case) is misogyny. He also is talking in a way that makes it clear that part of what makes his ex wife so odious is that she's a woman, that she shares the odious traits common to all women. That's misogyny, too.

This man is a misogynist through and through. I don't know his situation and I can't comment on the financials, - I'd love to hear the ex wife's side - but the blatant misogyny alone is enough that I have no sympathy for him. Perhaps if he starts treating women like real human beings, and starts reading the legal contracts he signs, I'd re-evaluate.

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 15:04

@ColinMyWifeBridgerton 👏

Despair1 · 21/07/2024 16:03

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 21/07/2024 14:57

It isn't harsh. This man is trying to use a personal situation with his ex wife to push a sexist trope about every "women" in the world. That's misogyny. Tarnishing all women with one vice ("greed" in this case) is misogyny. He also is talking in a way that makes it clear that part of what makes his ex wife so odious is that she's a woman, that she shares the odious traits common to all women. That's misogyny, too.

This man is a misogynist through and through. I don't know his situation and I can't comment on the financials, - I'd love to hear the ex wife's side - but the blatant misogyny alone is enough that I have no sympathy for him. Perhaps if he starts treating women like real human beings, and starts reading the legal contracts he signs, I'd re-evaluate.

We'll agree to disagree

ThedaBara · 21/07/2024 16:47

Looks like OP has flounced, but I'm so curious about how people get themselves into these situations. Its not a nice thing to say, but the class divide is a huge factor in divorces amongst people in my circle. It's always a self made man (7 figures in assets is nothing jn London), who marry up, and are then baffled that their partner has different values. It'll be a really attractive middle class woman, and the man loves the status symbol of having someone like that on their arm, and her parents will have made it a priority to instill certain lifestyle expectations in her.
No sympathy, sorry

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 16:51

He says she's "pig ugly" which was also a weird - and very unpleasant - thing to say.

NonPlayerCharacter · 21/07/2024 17:08

ClaudineMallory · 21/07/2024 16:51

He says she's "pig ugly" which was also a weird - and very unpleasant - thing to say.

It's also clearly bollocks. He married her and reproduced with her so she can't have repulsed him too much. He's also got a mercenary, misogynistic and and possessive look on life and love and in my experience, those men aren't generally driven by deep connections and appreciation of personality (as evidenced by his inability to understand that his wife isn't all women; that's how much he understands and cares about individual character).

I expect she's actually pretty good looking but he's probably attacking her for not looking just like a supermodel (maybe he feels that's what he deserved for having money, which begs the question of why he didn't have such a woman), or possibly for having a body that changed after having the children that would have affected the settlement, despite his making no mention of them during his whinge.

If he really did marry a woman he found repulsive then I don't know why he thinks we're the idiots.

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