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Does it get better?

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Mambot · 18/08/2017 11:19

Is been seven weeks since my partner walked out on me and our nearly two year old son in the most horrible way. He blames me for everything, has turned mutual friends and his family against me and is all full of himself arguing 'its time to concentrate on me'.

I don't really get any sleep, am working full time to try and get some money together and my poor mum is looking after my son while I'm there and is also exhausted.

I have nightmares every night about whatever trollop he has gone off with and him smugly telling me why she's better, I have huge amounts of anxiety and chest pain and am finding it very difficult to 'forgive and move on' as all the literature tells me to do. I spend a lot of time hoping he will suffer for the pain he caused all of us.

Please tell me it gets easier. Some days are so hard and I'm crying in work while writing this.

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newtonml64 · 14/09/2017 10:48

It's now been 6 weeks and 2 days since I received a phone call from my husband's OW's husband to say they were having an affair!! My whole life has been turned upside down by one phone call and I'm just not coping!! After 31 years of marriage he said he no longer loves me, he was bored, and didn't know what he was missing until it hit him in the face... well I'd like to hit someone in the face at the moment. I had absolutely no idea of his unhappiness we had just come back from what I thought was a fabulous holiday, making plans for the future and just celebrated his birthday. But it was all a lie. How stupid I feel, no self worth and very, very lonely. I miss him even though he has turned into a cold hearted, nasty man in these last few weeks. Definitely not the man I married but how do I move on and stop loving him.... how do I get rid of the hatred towards the OW... My kids are young adults now but they are hurt, angry and confused - they are my rock but they need my support too. I'm not eating, sleeping or functioning at work... I want to wake from this nightmare!

Layniboggs123 · 14/09/2017 12:06

When u feel like your the only one and there's so many going through same x I'm constantly like 10 steps forward then 10 back .

Viking64 · 14/09/2017 12:20

Hi mambot how's it going glad your date was good. Not wanting to get involved is perfectly natural.my sister has signed me up to eharmony she says I'm to nice to be on my own.had about 6 messages which is nice but I don't want it yet I'm ok alone .we need time to heal and it happens when it happens or not.your message had a very positive vibe so that's good isn't it . Time really does help all be it slow at times.take care

Viking64 · 14/09/2017 13:29

Hi newtonml it is he'll isn't it and we are all in similar situation here mate crawling from the wreckage of a breakup. Some of us are on our feet and some are still crawling but there's no timescale and it will take time which none of us wants to hear.mine happened 8 weeks ago and I miss my wife everyday but the pain is an ache now that I've gotten used to. Look after yourself because you've only got you now and you owe it to yourself .please message me if you want to chat or rant or anything it's good to talk especially to someone who knows what it's like

Wellyboots86 · 14/09/2017 22:10

Newtonml, welcome. Sorry you had to find out that way, how horrible! If it helps, a month ago I couldn't eat, sleep or stop thinking about my wife's affair but now it's a lot easier and I'm no longer basically getting out of bed just to look after the kids. I've even started joking around with friends at work again and have gone nearly the entire day today without thinking about her. It's tough when you've been together for so long but your kids will definitely make the process easier.

Don't be afraid to cry when you need to, does no good to hold it in.

Mambot I'm glad the date went well, take things at your own pace but don't over worry about it feeling too soon, if it feels right then see how it goes. I had last Saturday off and just sat around watching tv after having a lie in so not productive but was nice not of think of anything at all

Viking64 · 14/09/2017 23:43

Wellyboots I'm so glad you are in a better place it's good to hear. Be nice if we all get there at the same time wouldn't it .we are all in a better place than when this thread started and I don't think me you or mambot could imagine that tbh

newtonml64 · 15/09/2017 09:25

Listening to your stories gives me the strength to know there is a life after the betrayal. I'm beginning this weekend with a few days away with my sisters in the hope I can forget him and his woman for a few days and concentrate on me.

Wellyboots86 · 15/09/2017 09:57

Newtonml, when I first found out what she'd done and she moved out I had seriously dark thoughts and tbh if I didn't have kids I'm worried about what I might've done to myself but if you'd have told me then that I'd be sitting here a couple of months later feeling relatively normal I wouldn't have believed you.

It's amazing how quickly you can adjust especially if you remind yourself that you're pining for the person they were before, not the one they are now!

Viking64 · 15/09/2017 10:20

What wellyboots said

Mambot · 15/09/2017 20:38

Its good to hear you are both feeling better Viking and Wellyboots, so pleased for you.

Newtonml, I'm so sorry whats happening to you. Its not your fault. Your partner sounds like a horrible selfish person. They all are. It has been 11 weeks for me now and things are getting better. I have to say this, despite the fact that today is not a good day.

A few years ago I lost a dramatic amount of weight, through healthy eating and weight training over a three month period. If you were to chart that weight loss (I did on my fitness pal) it was not a perfectly declining slope, it looked more like a zig zag slope that gradually got lower and lower. Another way to say it would be two steps forward, one step back.

For me, there is no better description of what getting over this shite has been like than to say it was exactly like when I lost weight. At the beginning, its awful - very dark thoughts, I had two counsellors, I sobbed everywhere, it got gradually a bit better (by week 3 I was able to go outside and talk to people without bursting into tears). Then you start to think its getting better and you have a bad day, you think youve regressed etc.

It was five weeks before I cooked a hot meal for myself, before that I just put meals together for my son. Prior to that I didnt bother for myself. Then I didnt do it again until this week, when I have done it twice.

In 11 weeks I've only been to the supermarket to do a weekly shop once. I keep going back and forth Tesco express and picking up one thing at a time because I can't remember anything. I have only hung the washing out once. My beautiful mum keeps stocking up the fridge and keeping things ticking over that I'm forgetting. I have felt so useless.

I distinctly remember last week being momentous as it was the first time I'd properly laughed since it happened.

My job involves interviewing people, and it wasn't until about 8 weeks on that I was able to appreciate that one of the men sitting in front of me was incredibly good looking,interesting, intelligent etc and I found them attractive. It took eight weeks for me to even find someone else attractive.

One of the nicest developments is that I'm finally back to my old self with my son, singing, dancing and making jokes. Thats taken 11 weeks.

I am, however, still going back and forth with feelings of hate, bitterness, missing what we had etc. I still cannot forgive or wish him well.

I am so lucky, I have fantastic family and friends. I totally understand that my ex is a despicable person to have done what he's done in the manner in which its happened. I do not understand why those two things aren't enough for me to move on.

Today was a pretty bad day as I visited a friend's whose wife has terminal cancer and they are both distraught. I am really struggling with how bloody unfair life is. She is so lovely. Things just seem pointless.

But tomorrow will be better.

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Viking64 · 15/09/2017 21:14

Hey mambot .the fact you acknowledged today was a bad day is a good sign .you see other people's devastating hurt today and that will have been terrible regardless.bur early on every day was a dark day so good days are becoming more frequent. Chin up tomorrow is another day mate.

newtonml64 · 16/09/2017 10:14

Mambot I know exactly what you mean about the feelings of hate, bitterness and not wishing him well. I hope with time that will slowly disappear as it's not good for us to hold onto those feelings. I'm glad you're seeing a few glimpses of happiness coming through your life, it gives me hope.. And our wonderful mums deserve a medal for keeping us going and giving us the time and strength to carry on. I keep telling myself time is a great healer and I need to focus on that and not the man who has cheated, lied and turned my life upside down. Is he really worth it ??

SpringLady · 16/09/2017 18:55

Hi everyone. On Thursday my husband told me he wanted to leave me, no other woman that I know about but he's not been happy (with me) for a while. We have two gorgeous girls and I think my heart is breaking. I just wanted to say reading this thread has made me realise I'm not alone. Thank you, I'm new to Mumsnet and I can see this is going to be a big help to me in the future.

Mambot · 16/09/2017 20:43

Thanks Viking for your support, always lovely to hear from you. How's this weekend been for you?

Newtonml, how are you feeling? No, they definitely aren't worth it, but somehow that doesn't matter. My mum dropped my son off with him today while I was at work and she said he's already gotten bigger and likes more he's been drinking. I on the other hand have lost nearly a stone, and can objectively tell I'm looking better than I have for a few years but somehow my brain still thinks he is better than me and all this rubbish some days. Today is apparently not one of those days, I'm managing alright today but the last few days were crap, proper two steps back days x

Spring lady, I'm so sorry you're going through this too. You must be feeling all kinds of things right now, but missing him and sadness the most? Those first days were very difficult, I minimized damage by being on the phone to friends constantly. I planned ahead and after putting my son to bed I spoke to one or two different friends each night for a couple of weeks, trying not to overburden anyone and just getting some perspective on it all as I was so prone to blaming myself.

11 weeks on, I've just gotten home after work and quick drink with a friend, and later me and the fella I went on a date with in the week are going to watch motd with a beer in our respective houses and text chat about it. Feeling quite cheery about things.

I've realized there is nothing at all that I shared with my ex that I can't share with someone else. Comedy, football, music... Someone here in an earlier post on this thread put it wonderfully (but it was too soon for me to appreciate at the time) 'I thought he was the love of my life but he was just another man'.

That is feeling truer right now than it did some weeks ago x hang in there xxx

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Viking64 · 16/09/2017 20:51

Hi springlady we all feel your pain.everyone tells you time is a great healer and it is mine is 8 weeks today and compared to the beginning it's much more bearable.trouble is you can't fast forward time and as clichéd as it sounds you do one day at a time.I found feeling sorry for myself didn't work so concentrated on the selfish woman that left .it's still early for you and the whirlwind of emotions that go with it makes you feel like you are going crazy at times but it will ease.you will go into a sort of survival mode so concentrate and what you and the kids need and nothing else.at times you feel the loneliest person on earth so if you need to talk ,rant,swear or all that you can message me anytime.take care.

Viking64 · 16/09/2017 21:02

Hey mambot I'm good thanks.my weekends are quiet these days but that's ok. I like my own company always have.my son stays out most weekends and always feels bad which is sweet of him but there's no need for him but that's him all over.I've been chatting regularly with a woman at my gym and she asked me to go for a run with her she's married so I made some lame excuse. I didn't think it was appropriate now if she was single. If and when I get with someone they definitely have to like match of the day .you sound in a lot better place.

Wellyboots86 · 16/09/2017 22:55

Hi springlady, sorry to hear you're on the same boat as the rest of us but I hope we can help. My wife gave me really flimsy reasons for why she cheated and left so remember not to blame yourself, he's the one that gave up not you!

Mambot and Viking, glad you're both doing a bit better. Also mambot you're right about being able to do the same things with new people, I got married at Disney in Florida and initially thought I could never face going there again but now I've been planning it in my head and I can picture it still being a great time even if it's as a three not a four as originally planned.

SpringLady · 17/09/2017 08:56

Thanks Mambot, I feel so very sad that what I thought was a happy marriage wasn't. He's still here, and agreed to go to counselling and we're going on Wed. I don't think we should give up ten years without trying together, although from how he's been speaking about how he feels I think his mind is already made up. We'll see. Things have been said that now can't be unsaid and I feel hurt he wouldn't have shared how he felt sooner.

Thanks too Viking. Knowing that other people are getting through this gives me comfort even though it doesn't feel like I'll get there myself, either with or without the husband. And if it is with, whether it'll still be the same or a different version of us? Thanks for the offer too. I'm in a place where I've only told one friend at work because I was in such a state, seeing another friend later. I know I would hate my friends to not tell me so I could support them but it's making it feel real, which is more painful but when it's real it means I have to deal with it.

Wellyboots, thank you too. He's not good about talking about feelings and it seems like he's tried to work how he feels through on his own, and with talking things through with some colleague from work who saw he was upset at work (he swears that was platonic, call me a fool, I believe him). I guess I won't know for sure and even if Wednesday's counselling session brings out truth I'd rather not know, at least I know what I'm / we're dealing with and we can move on together or separately.
The limbo of not knowing what direction we're going to move in is awful and pretending everything's fine for the kids is a strain.

Viking64 · 17/09/2017 09:17

Morning springlady not knowing is harder than knowing at least when you know the we scenario firmly becomes me and although the feelings can be overwhelming it at least focuses you as to what you need to do going forward. My wife was still here but going out regularly with a man she admitted she had feelings for until I told her to get out she now lives in same shared house as him and blames me for her living with him because I told her to leave she told family she moved in with a girl from work.there is so much deceit when this happens it's incredible. I smile now when I think of her lies and desperation so it shows I'm healing.what I'm trying to say in a round about way is whatever happens with you you will smile again and none of us on here probably thought we would again .
Mambot I read your first post again last night and compared to now it really shows how far you've come .same as wellyboots we still have sad moments mine is when I do the shopping weirdly. We always watched the walking dead together and new series starts in a few weeks so looking forward to it but not if you get my drift.silly things like that but there are no sad days now just a sad hour out the blue so there's progress 😊

Wellyboots86 · 17/09/2017 12:45

Springlady, my wife wasn't willing to even try counselling so at least he's willing to go! It'll never be the same relationship again but that doesn't mean you can't reforge something close to it if you are both willing to make the effort.

Don't do what I did and try and do all the changing or make all the effort to make it work, I spent months trying to save a marriage that was already dead because she was hiding her affair. It was hard to say the words "I think we need a divorce" especially as we have kids together but they are better off in two happy(ish) homes than one sad one!

Wellyboots86 · 17/09/2017 12:47

Viking I know exactly what you mean about watching stuff that you used to see together, been through it with a few shows now and it gets easier

Viking64 · 17/09/2017 13:32

Yes wellyboots I know about the counselling question I asked my wife 3 times to go but she was adamant she wasn't going which told me she already had something better in mind .the last time I asked she said to me all I hear is wo is me coming our my mouth which was totally untrue never felt sorry for myself.I just said to her consider our sons feelings.I can come out of this with dignity which is important to me as for her....

user1497991628 · 17/09/2017 14:04

Hi, can I join you? My h left last week after two years of trying to get over his affair.

We'd been married for sixteen years, known each other for over twenty.

It seems surreal: for all these years he's been here, quite a close family.

But it all seems tainted now, I am questioning all my memories, as he seems so cold, and prepared to leave his children as well. It makes me feel so guilty, as though I must be a horrendous person to make him do this.

The dcs are gutted and very angry and don't want to see him. It's all just so sad.

So I turned to this thread, hoping to hear that things will get better!

Viking64 · 17/09/2017 14:23

Hi user course you join in its a group that none of us wanted to be in but here we are so that's the way it is sadly.firstly don't blame yourself for someone elses actions mate better off aiming them feelings .towards the guilty party .it amazed me how cold and unfeeling my wife became and that's who I remember now it helps greatly. I think we all accept that marriages fail and people drift apart but there's ways and means of parting and this isn't it. Is there someone else if so that's no reflection on you and it does get easier to live with not sure about better it takes time though live one day at a time and in a month revisit your first post as proof it's always good to talk so if you want to chat please message me can't promise to make it better but talking is good therapy

Wellyboots86 · 17/09/2017 16:58

Oh user I'm sorry! Of course you are welcome here.

As Viking said, don't blame yourself ever, he quit the marriage not you!