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Am I being unreasonable about our household spending?

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CalmCanyon · 10/07/2026 10:28

I’m interested in getting a reality check on our household spending because I’m struggling to work out whether I’m being unreasonable or whether our costs really are out of line.
We’re a family of four plus a dog in the South East of England. One of our daughters is at university and isn’t home most of the time, and her spending isn’t included here as she has her own finances.
Our monthly spending is roughly:

  • Finances (mortgage, council tax, utilities, insurance, phones, broadband and other regular household bills): £1,833
  • Groceries: £869
  • Shopping (clothes, household items, Amazon, etc.): £583
  • Transport: £253
  • Eating out: £109
  • Home & Family: £78
  • General: £68
  • Children: £32
Total: around £3,825 per month. The grocery and shopping figures are what concern me most. I don’t actually do most of the food shopping or day-to-day purchases—my partner does. As the sole earner, I see the overall numbers each month and I’m finding it increasingly difficult to make the budget work. I’ve tried to have calm conversations about our spending and whether we could cut back, but they usually end in disagreement. From my perspective it’s becoming a financial issue; from hers it doesn’t seem to be viewed in the same way. Unfortunately it’s started to affect our relationship, and at the moment it feels more like we’re housemates than a family working towards the same goals. I’m genuinely looking for outside perspectives.
OP posts:
Teainapinkcup · 11/07/2026 12:46

ToohotToohotToohot · 11/07/2026 12:38

When we've discussed the possibility of her returning to work I think she worries that:
She would lose her independence and the ability to choose how she spends her time, which has become an important part of her identity.
The whole dynamic of our household and family life would change, and that uncertainty feels overwhelming.
She is a very feminine, creative, romantic person and something of a dreamer. Much of her identity has revolved around creating a home, making memories for our children, organising family life, and looking after those around her. I genuinely value all of those things.

Surely she and you can appreciate that this is a lifestyle that MILLIONS of people would like?

Work when you feel like it, total flexibility, sit at home dreaming, wishing your freelance work with pick up if only those algorithms would get cracking on it etc.

But millions of people can't indulge that attitude (or dream) because it doesn't pay the bills.

What you are describing is a woman approaching 50 who wants to do just as she pleases, to the extent it impacts on you, creates stress around money, and is pushing you into debt.

You can describe it as 'being feminine (whatever that means!), creative and romantic'. But it's actually selfishness. And immaturity.
And when you call her out on it, she gaslights you - making out you're the baddie. Emotional blackmail. So you start to doubt yourself.

There are plenty of women who create a home, bring up the kids, organise the home AND WORK. Most don't have a choice of one or the other.

Spending a long time in a relationship is not a good enough reason to keep on spending time with that person if it's not working. (Read about the 'sunk cost fallacy' and cognitive distortion.)

What I struggle to understand is why, when I raise the need for more financial support or ask whether she might consider contributing in some way, she feels unvalued.

Stop trying to understand. There is no connection. Her way of trying to defend her behaviour is to try to make you feel guilty.

Maybe what you are facing is long term incompatibility which is now becoming more clear once you have reached a financial crunch point. She won't accept responsibility, she won't change, she won't meet you half way, she won't rein in the spending.

She has already told you she thinks she may not love you, would walk away if she could, so what else do you need to hear?

It's time to start accepting the reality of your relationship- not what you thought it was, not what you hoped it would be, not how she might change, but how it really is.

The alternative is to waste the rest of your life with a woman who doesn't care about you.

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the point is... they are getting by fine, do you really think this woman would sit by and watch if they were not paying for the needs of the family off 1 wage. That is why she wants to be a stay at home mum/wife still, its still possible and I dont think there is anything wrong with that more traditional role for a wife and mother. They can afford it. They have everything covered. op could take a bit off on pay day and move it into savings leaving less for amazon and clothes spending. That is what I advised. Why try and tear a family apart like this.. MN at its "finest" there is more to life than money people!

ToohotToohotToohot · 11/07/2026 12:47

Teainapinkcup · 11/07/2026 12:46

the point is... they are getting by fine, do you really think this woman would sit by and watch if they were not paying for the needs of the family off 1 wage. That is why she wants to be a stay at home mum/wife still, its still possible and I dont think there is anything wrong with that more traditional role for a wife and mother. They can afford it. They have everything covered. op could take a bit off on pay day and move it into savings leaving less for amazon and clothes spending. That is what I advised. Why try and tear a family apart like this.. MN at its "finest" there is more to life than money people!

I think you need to improve your comprehension.

You must be reading another thread.

lessglittermoremud · 11/07/2026 12:47

As much as I’m understand her wanting to make a lovely home for her children, making memories, organising family life she must understand as your children grow up, with one in uni already, the level that they need her will lessen and then what she is going to do?
What I don’t understand is the complete unwillingness to sit down and discuss a budget, I assume because she is a dreamer and romantic she doesn’t want to be bogged down with the normal constraints that come with life?
If she won’t discuss it or anything else as you’ve previously mentioned then all you can do is not allow her full access to the money.
Put an amount into an account she has access to, some in savings and then pay your household expenses as you currently do. I assume one the account she has access to runs out of money she will wait until the next month for you to put more money in.
She will resent you for it, you’re going to resent the fact she just doesn’t ’get it’. As I said before a lot of us would like to be at home, we simply can’t afford to and whilst I’m not a SAHM, I work part time around my children, I am always careful how I use my husbands wages because he works so hard (6 days a week) to get them.

Teainapinkcup · 11/07/2026 12:48

ToohotToohotToohot · 11/07/2026 12:47

I think you need to improve your comprehension.

You must be reading another thread.

I read the posts by op, he has it all covered? they dont mention debt? He just wants less spent and more saved?

lessglittermoremud · 11/07/2026 12:52

Teainapinkcup · 11/07/2026 12:48

I read the posts by op, he has it all covered? they dont mention debt? He just wants less spent and more saved?

He said they have nothing really left at the end of the month and he’s finding in increasingly difficult to make the budget work….
When he has tried to sit down and go through things with his partner, she’s refused to discuss it, refuses to go to counselling, refused to get a job…. A whole lot of refusing and not a lot of compromising!

Teainapinkcup · 11/07/2026 12:54

lessglittermoremud · 11/07/2026 12:52

He said they have nothing really left at the end of the month and he’s finding in increasingly difficult to make the budget work….
When he has tried to sit down and go through things with his partner, she’s refused to discuss it, refuses to go to counselling, refused to get a job…. A whole lot of refusing and not a lot of compromising!

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she does not have to make this choice as he is covering it all she just spends too much. Its not a get rid of her thing...

lessglittermoremud · 11/07/2026 13:05

Teainapinkcup · 11/07/2026 12:54

she does not have to make this choice as he is covering it all she just spends too much. Its not a get rid of her thing...

I haven’t said get rid of her… I’ve said I’m not sure I could stay with someone who cared so little about me as to keep spending when I’ve tried to sit down and explain that the budget isn’t working.
She won’t make the choice until he does something about it, as shown by her behaviour…
It’s not really a grown up way to behave is it?!

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 11/07/2026 13:05

Doesn't your girlfriend need 35 years of national insurance credits to get a full state pension ?

doesn't child benefit stop at 18 ? so that will end in x years time

how many years has she claimed child benefit for, will she have accrued enough years ?

25 years together, and not married. Shame.

CalmCanyon · 11/07/2026 13:52

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 11/07/2026 13:05

Doesn't your girlfriend need 35 years of national insurance credits to get a full state pension ?

doesn't child benefit stop at 18 ? so that will end in x years time

how many years has she claimed child benefit for, will she have accrued enough years ?

25 years together, and not married. Shame.

She'll probably end up with around 30 years of pension contributions by the time our youngest starts uni.
To be honest, she doesn't really like talking about pension topic. I think part of it is that she doesn't like thinking about getting older, but it's also because she has a very different outlook on life from me.
She's much more of a "live for today" person and often says that none of us knows what tomorrow will bring, so she'd rather enjoy life in the present.

OP posts:
EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:11

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 10/07/2026 10:30

Nearly a grand a month on food for 3 people and a dog is INSANE.
The rest is by the buy, it’s a lot for shopping too but appreciate with young people who grow that can easily tot up.

We easily spent that per month on a family of 4 plus a cat.....and we buy non-branded items. A lot of value items and consider myself quite frugal. Not sure why you think it's insane. Costs add up so quickly. Perhaps we just have good appetites? I don't know.
I buy in bulk and make batch meals - it's not like I'm buying expensive ready made stuff, although 2 of us are gluten free so bread and certain treats do cost more.
It's a crazy amount of money, agree, but unfortunately that the cost of living for you.
How do you do it on less??

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:15

SpaceAngel1999 · 10/07/2026 10:40

We’re a family of 4 plus dog in SW England.
kids are 14&18.
we spend roughly £600pm on groceries
clothes/amazon/bits and pieces etc, roughly £100pm, we don’t buy clothes every month just as and when we see something we like or need.
mortgage/bills/ school bus/clubs/insurance/phones etc £2200
we spend more on going out, roughly £100 per week.
we save roughly £1300 pm for holidays, a buffer for emergency’s etc
its all relative, depends on your life style etc and what your comfortable spending. We could make savings quite easily but we work hard and like the life we life

How do 4 people only eat £600 worth of supermarket food per month?
I really budget..make batch meals...buy value items...and we still spend approx £1000 per month. Mind you, I think some of that might go on DH's alcohol provisions! (I wouldn't mind but I don't even drink!).
Perhaps we just have big appetites? I don't know...
We have cut back on eating out - maybe only once per month now :(

Franpie · 11/07/2026 14:22

OP, your partner doesn’t sound like a “live for today” or “romantic, dreamy creative” to me.

She refuses to talk about pensions, budgets or saving. She doesn’t want any restrictions on how she chooses to spend her time. She sounds like an irresponsible teenager.

You also say that she prides herself on “creating a home, making memories for our children, organising family life, and looking after those around her”. But do you know what teens need to launch into life? Money! Teenagers are expensive, university is expensive. The last thing they need is for their parents to be on the bones of their arse if it can be avoided.

As they grow into adults and have their own families, they also don’t need their parents to be struggling on the bare minimum measly state pension, unable to afford any care costs.

My DH is a very high earner. We could easily afford to maintain our day to day lifestyle on his salary alone. But I work because I can’t imagine living off anyone when I don’t need to. I am more than capable of working and providing for my teenagers. Being able to invest in their futures. Being a role model to them. Investing in my old age so I retire very comfortably when the time comes. Creating a sizeable nest egg so that should anyone in my family ever need anything, the money is there to pay for it.

crazytiredrn · 11/07/2026 14:23

Going against the grain here but those figures seem about right to me. There are 2 adults and a teenager in my house and I spend around £800+ on food shopping inc cleaning products, laundry and cat food. I do shop in Sainsbury’s and M&S though and buy organic and branded.

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:27

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 10/07/2026 11:27

The food I can believe. I used to be able to budget £50 a week. Now It's between £150 on a good week up to £200.... Food prices are ridiculous ( includes household stuff eg shampoo, loo roll, dishwasher tablets etc)

Yes, the food/toiletry budget is also this for us a family of 4 plus cat.
I don't know how people are doing this for less than £800 - £900 a month

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:31

crazytiredrn · 11/07/2026 14:23

Going against the grain here but those figures seem about right to me. There are 2 adults and a teenager in my house and I spend around £800+ on food shopping inc cleaning products, laundry and cat food. I do shop in Sainsbury’s and M&S though and buy organic and branded.

I don't shop in M&S - I shop in Tesco, Aldi, Sainsbury's and buy overwhelming value range and we still manage to spend £800+ on food and toiletries per month so I can totally believe OP. However, I do have to buy a number of gluten free products and I do buy the occassional sourdough bread (alongside the value wholemeal). I also buy 'clean' toiletries from amazon on a 'subscribe & save' basis for laundry liquid, dishwasher tablets, shampoos etc as my DD has eczema and DH has psoriasis. But I feel that these are still essentials due to health, not luxuries. Life's hard :(

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:36

Comeondoreen · 10/07/2026 11:43

She needs to get a grip and get a job. Sorry. Do you not find her attitude unbearable?

Your food and shopping figures are extraordinary. I spend a little less than you for a larger family, and I buy nearly all organic, do the bulk of our shopping at posh markets or in a health food shop, etc… I love food, I have no other personal luxuries (I don’t even pay for a hair cut!) and we can afford it, so I like to buy lovely food. If I needed to cut down I reckon I could probably halve my spending just by switching to aldi.

what kind of food are you buying? Do you cook from scratch?

It’s positive in a way as there’s no doubt loads of room to manoeuvre in your budget if you commit to changing habits.

but it really does sound like your partner needs a job.

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I dont' get it. I buy overwhelming 'value' products from Aldi and Tesco and cook things from scratch...but stil manage to spend that amound on food.
Perhaps we just eat a lot in our house. Maybe that's it?
We do like our food! We go through fruit and veg in a flash!...and everyone loves cisps, chocolate etc. DH likes a drink on a weekend. But my God what other pleasures are there these days? We've cut back on meals out and nights out due to cost of living. We don't smoke, so if we can't enjoy eating then it's a poor do isn't it?

ToohotToohotToohot · 11/07/2026 14:36

CalmCanyon · 11/07/2026 13:52

She'll probably end up with around 30 years of pension contributions by the time our youngest starts uni.
To be honest, she doesn't really like talking about pension topic. I think part of it is that she doesn't like thinking about getting older, but it's also because she has a very different outlook on life from me.
She's much more of a "live for today" person and often says that none of us knows what tomorrow will bring, so she'd rather enjoy life in the present.

The current state pension is just under £13Kpa
It's barely enough to live on.

Having years of child benefit doesn't automatically mean a full state pension.
You're making an inccorrect assumption.

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:37

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:36

I dont' get it. I buy overwhelming 'value' products from Aldi and Tesco and cook things from scratch...but stil manage to spend that amound on food.
Perhaps we just eat a lot in our house. Maybe that's it?
We do like our food! We go through fruit and veg in a flash!...and everyone loves cisps, chocolate etc. DH likes a drink on a weekend. But my God what other pleasures are there these days? We've cut back on meals out and nights out due to cost of living. We don't smoke, so if we can't enjoy eating then it's a poor do isn't it?

P.S. I get my hair cut in a cheap place in the market about once every 4 months so that I afford to get my DD's hair cut in a standard/niceish salon

ToohotToohotToohot · 11/07/2026 14:38

@Franpie

Exactly.

And the OP isn't married. So his partner may get nothing if they split up and she will have to start earning in her late 40s.

TourdeCrema · 11/07/2026 14:39
  • If she wants to keep her identity, that’s fine

but where does her money come from? How does she spend money day to day?

its good that she wants her own identity id be helping with a chase account and putting £200 a week in the account for to get the groceries and requesting her identity pays the rest of her expenses

lazyarse123 · 11/07/2026 14:45

So while you're around she's living off you and God forbid anything happens to you she won't get a full state pension she just hasn't got enough contributions so will then go on benefits and live off the rest of us.
She's not some creative, romantic, ethereal princess she's a bone idle, entitled user. The more you say about her the worse she sounds.
I'm so glad i worked for 50 years and brought a family up including "making memories" and keeping a nice house even doing hobbies. I at least have got self respect.

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:46

Franpie · 11/07/2026 14:22

OP, your partner doesn’t sound like a “live for today” or “romantic, dreamy creative” to me.

She refuses to talk about pensions, budgets or saving. She doesn’t want any restrictions on how she chooses to spend her time. She sounds like an irresponsible teenager.

You also say that she prides herself on “creating a home, making memories for our children, organising family life, and looking after those around her”. But do you know what teens need to launch into life? Money! Teenagers are expensive, university is expensive. The last thing they need is for their parents to be on the bones of their arse if it can be avoided.

As they grow into adults and have their own families, they also don’t need their parents to be struggling on the bare minimum measly state pension, unable to afford any care costs.

My DH is a very high earner. We could easily afford to maintain our day to day lifestyle on his salary alone. But I work because I can’t imagine living off anyone when I don’t need to. I am more than capable of working and providing for my teenagers. Being able to invest in their futures. Being a role model to them. Investing in my old age so I retire very comfortably when the time comes. Creating a sizeable nest egg so that should anyone in my family ever need anything, the money is there to pay for it.

Well good for you! DH and I both work hard and still struggle. We just about cover everything but it's a slog. Not everyone is blessed with huge salaries. We are all trying our best. Money isn't absolutely everything either. I see families out there who have pots of cash with kids who are self harming....so there are some things that are money important than £££

lazyarse123 · 11/07/2026 14:50

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:46

Well good for you! DH and I both work hard and still struggle. We just about cover everything but it's a slog. Not everyone is blessed with huge salaries. We are all trying our best. Money isn't absolutely everything either. I see families out there who have pots of cash with kids who are self harming....so there are some things that are money important than £££

No need for this comment. There are more things important than money but you need money as you've just said. The op is struggling and his wife is a lazy sod who thinks she doesn't have to contribute.

Franpie · 11/07/2026 15:01

EvieBB · 11/07/2026 14:46

Well good for you! DH and I both work hard and still struggle. We just about cover everything but it's a slog. Not everyone is blessed with huge salaries. We are all trying our best. Money isn't absolutely everything either. I see families out there who have pots of cash with kids who are self harming....so there are some things that are money important than £££

But you and your DH are both working extremely hard to be able to provide the maximum you are able to. Just like you, I work so my family can have as much as me and DH can provide.

That is not the same for OP. His other half isn’t working at all for no reason whatsoever and so the family have less and OP’s partner continues to live a life beyond their means.

Nearly50omg · 11/07/2026 15:22

Why are you so concerned with anything you do being seen as controlling behaviour? Is this your girlfriend bringing this up? If so it’s actually HER being controlling and is a form of abuse. I’d highly recommend getting counselling yourself to talk to someone about all this on your own and get advice