Refugees

[InayaWoo]

Am I wrong to feel the people of this country are using the "Cost of Living" narrative to justify not helping migrants and refugees who seek refuge for themselves? Neglecting our British values, passing the buck to Rwanda and European countries. The attitude towards those fleeing war zones and risking everything to come to this country on harsh waters is outrageous!

I was in the corner shop today and over heard a couple of women making digs about foreigners. To make unjustified claims such as "it makes us unsafe", "we don't have jobs" or my personal favourite - "they don't integrate into society." What on earth has happened to our British values? To make others feel welcome and to help others in need of help!

Every human has a right to safety, affordable housing, food, water, education and a healthcare system. Those are all things our wonderful country can provide and quite frankly has a moral obligation to provide for those coming from other parts of the world that aren't as fortunate as us.

I would love nothing more but as I said I’m mother of three, four bedrooms and would not have the space for them.

Don’t you think those fleeing war are more of priority?

Priority over the 4.2 million children already living in the country in poverty? No, I bloody well don't.

I'd far rather my hard earned tax payer £ went towards helping those children than grown men who have travelled through many other safe countries (where they could have claimed asylum) just to get to the UK.

So a no borders except the ones round my house situation

I’m sure your house would be very much appreciated by someone who doesn’t have one

@InayaWoo

Then you should have more awareness than you're displaying . Go make some placards and stand outside the Iranian embassy , see how that's goes for you . Stop focussing your attention on what us British could / should be doing , we can't solve the world's problems .

@InayaWoo

'I would love nothing more but as I said I’m mother of three, four bedrooms and would not have the space for them.'

Make your children share a room! They'll be fine, it's for the greater good!

I would have a lot more respect for the OP if she did open up her house to take some of the single young men arriving in the UK. I think it is a case that she insists people should do as she says rather than acting on it herself.
So how many single male refugees are you housing OP?

Why would I stand outside the Iranian embassy? I’m in the U.K so that is my focus.

Starting a thread on mn is about as easy as it gets

It doesn’t rise to housing someone even

everyone has access to food, running water, flushing toilets, etc. Every child is offered an education.

You live in a fuckin bubble if you believe this tripe.

But surely as this is so important to you, your kids could share a couple of bedrooms then you could house one or two migrants. Or do you want other people to do all the practical work while you remain a keyboard warrior for your cause?

Op don't let the fact you have 3 children in a 4 bed stop you from housing someone. Your children can double or even triple up in rooms. You can surely house someone , simply make room .

All of the world’s problems come down to the root cause of overpopulation, wars over resources, land, water, religion…all worsened by climate change. Interesting you have contributed to the problem by having a larger than average family OP! Who in time will need 3 houses, 3 cars, etc. shouldn’t you have thought of the asylum seekers who need the space before having so many kids?

Four bedrooms is a lot of space for a family of five. Act on what you believe OP. Put your children in one room and allow two single male refugees the opportunity of starting afresh in your house.

If you're from the Middle East I would be interested to know how much financial help I could get if I arrived uninvited? Would I be able to get housing, school place, free healthcare? How would locals feel if my family took housing away from a local family? That's what is happening in some places & those people who are in already poorer communities are expected to suck it up & are told they are racist if they don't want a large group of migrants living next to them.

Locals are not happy because the numbers meant raising prices of property (for last 10+years), food and other essentials. In camps only about half the kids end up having official education even though the gov tries to provide it for all. Poverty is extreme. We donate via inlaws to camp not far from them. They get very little money, often it's from human rights org funds.
I can also say that locals in country which took considerable nimbers of Ukrainian refugees are grumbling as well. Economic issues (rising costs etc) plus the fact everyone thought it will be over much faster. Even though two thirds work most are in poverty. Issue is language often so don't get high wages.

Poverty is not peril danger like these refugees are in. It’s not only men, it’s women and children who need help.

You're over egging it OP

@InayaWoo - when I was young and naive I met an economic migrant... he had a shop that was known as a student hang out. So he was integrated and had family here. We often asked why he left his home country (not a war zone) behind to come here...
He said he came to this country (not uk) because here you are given everything you need to have a decent life. In his home country he'd have to live in poverty because of the way his society worked.

I judged him, because he was intelligent and a bit of a crafter... why not improve conditions in his home country? We've done it here in Europe, it can also be done in other parts of the world.

Maybe not, but until we can actually house our own vets, I think "looking after our own" should be a priority. What and climate change are terrible things, but the world is in a very poor place these days, and we can't take them all. There are plenty of Middle Eastern countries that should be helping before us.

Three dc in a four bedroom house posting about no borders and let everyone in but completely unaware of own situation so a no thanks we can’t take anyone

I know the op probably does believe they’re on the side of goodness but honestly it’s a bit of a joke

@InayaWoo

Iranian embassy might like to hear your views on why they should make their country better so many millions don't want to leave .
You're in the UK lucky for you but you don't have the UK's best interests at heart .

You haven't said where these tens of thousands of refugees are going to live ? So where will they live once here .

Yes , of course

All the confirmation needed that you're a goady fucker warm in your 4 bed house.

I have never heard a good defence for why all these people apparently fleeing war and persecution, are able to travel through several safe countries before they even come to the UK.

If my life was so truly horrendous, I would be happy with the first safe country I arrived in.

There's never a good defence for why there's nearly always men on these boats too. Generally, the Muslim culture does not integrate that well with ours. Muslim countries all around the world would protect their culture and religion fiercely, and would not allow Brits with modern western beliefs to live in their country.

Lastly, people are not allowed to live wherever they choose. That is so naive OP.