Slowly but surely, the truth is emerging.

[Chrissykabel]

In a US interview with Bill Maher, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has just nuked the narrative.

“If you look at the Pfizer vaccine studies, the people who got the vaccine had a 23 percent HIGHER death rate from all causes.”

Bill Maher panics.
“But that could be the disease itself…”

Kennedy ends it.
“Then the vaccine doesn’t WORK, does it?”

That’s it. Game over.

If a vaccine doesn’t reduce overall deaths, it failed.
If deaths go UP, it’s not protection. It’s harm.

They censored doctors.
They buried data.
They bullied the public.

Now the truth is leaking out anyway. We have all been gaslighted on an industrial scale.

But why is the conspiracy just about COVID?

Why aren't they doing a conspiracy for Flu?

And it's over now. What did they achieve?

I’m sure it’s not that simple.

That’s a basic public health measure, they are the manufacturers

"Attributable" means the direct opposite to what you seem to think it means.

Not just Thalidomyde, try Vioxx (and many others) if you want a real evidence of the criminal malpractice of the pharmaceutical industry. Pfizer were complicit in the largest health care fraud settlement in the history, approx 2.3 billion. And people still trust them?

Is breast cancer screening also a conspiracy?

If not, why not?

If so, how so?

The selective thinking confuses me.

So you believe that the public, who funded the vaccines, paid for the vaccines (through tax), and who took the vaccines (sometimes coerced into doing so), are not entitled to receive safety information about them?

How that for informed consent?

Maybe because some members of the public lack the ability to understand basic scientific principles.

And I had all mine and were both fine, so why are you maintaining you’re right and I’m wrong?

I really don’t understand why people like you troll social media with absolute shite like this for fun @Chrissykabel. Maybe you don’t actually understand that people genuinely suffer more and die more without vaccines? Perhaps you’re very young and need to grow up? I know it’s not that simple as RFK is a grown adult but he has some serious problems that he is inflicting on us. Don’t help him.

Can I recommend a nice hobby? I’ve got a guitar I’m not playing at the moment, happy to lend it. Or knitting?

And in general the existing vaccine technologies that the COVID vaccines were built on. Because there are multiple COVID vaccine and they're all built on different technologies.

@Chrissykabel
"My family, who have by enlarge"
It should be by and large, if we're being picky about grammar today.

Ahhhh of course. You are bonkers.

Oh yes, I agree we should all eat healthily, but do do many ACTUAL experts.
have you read his beliefs in the causes of autism OP?!! The blojke is a grade A lunatic.

You're a bot, right? This is SUCH tripe.

Anecdote as data.

Unofficial disclosures from an anonymous medical professional. Who has been censored and so we can't hear from him firsthand. Of course he has. OF COURSE.

How old are you? Because your first shot of the vaccine - the one you apparently declined after your friend of a friend was injured - wouldn't have been Pfizer if you are in the UK, unless you were elderly. The mass vaccine rollout that most non-vulnerable groups received was the AstraZeneca vaccine.

This whole thread is bullshit. I'm arguing with a bot, right?

@Chrissykabel i wonder how you feel about RFK admitting that he and his family have all been vaccinated, he just doesn’t recommend it for the ‘masses’..

You don't understand nuance do you?

Right there’s only one way to sort it out! Ban all vaccines for a couple of years and see who dies! So the elderly, disabled, those immunocompromised (myself included), babies, children will die in their thousands. All the world’s ills will come back smallpox, measles, meningitis etc….hmmmmm!

When I laugh, I cough.

Please stop making me laugh.

Or feel free to continue 😁

And you and RFK aren’t?

Typical when backed into a corner, you come out fighting and being nasty.

And you think this points to an overall failure of the vaccine? That's a shame because the same technology is being explored in targeted cancer research.

Darwin is watching 👀

This is a sad case, and there are often reactions to medicines, none a perfectly safe to an individual. Some people will have a bad reaction to paracetamol, antibiotics, anesthetic. But does that mean that we should never use them. That people should put up with headaches, die from bacterial infections that could be saved by a simple course of antibiotics, or have life saving surgery without anesthetic?

Vaccines work if everyone has them they are an example of individuals doing what is best for society as a whole rather than focusing on the individual and the minimal risk to themselves. The individual may have full immunity, partial immunity or in some cases it fails and have no immunity on being vaccinated. Some individuals will have no side effects, some mild side effects and some life changing side effects.

The likelihood of having life changing side effects is low, very low. The benefit of increased immunity in a whole society outweighs the risk to the individual, and benefits the vulnerable in society who may not be able to have a vaccine themselves. At the point where the risk to the individual is drastically outweighed by the benefit to society vaccines are approved. It is evaluated by regulatory bodies, scientists, economists, ethical panels etc. Approval takes time and thought and tough decisions. But on the whole, the evidence presented convinces most people in a working society that the risk is worth the benefit and they will happily and consciously choose to take the vaccine.

The covid vaccine was rushed. There's every chance it will emerge that it wasn't what it should have been. We have to wait for that evidence not just suspect it exists and cling onto unproven hypotheses.
Even if the evidence one day shows that it was terrible and did nothing to prevent covid and caused harm, that doesn't automatically infer that all vaccines are bad. We have so much evidence to prove the contrary. We have to base opinions on proper studies and statistics that are scientifically-based.
Otherwise, you could be throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Did you miss what I said about my LONG life? For a many , many, years the flu vaccine was not actually available ( and there was also no such thing as a measles vaccine in 1962). Once the flu vaccine was available I have not been severely ill with flu.