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Slowly but surely, the truth is emerging.

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Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:19

In a US interview with Bill Maher, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has just nuked the narrative.

“If you look at the Pfizer vaccine studies, the people who got the vaccine had a 23 percent HIGHER death rate from all causes.”

Bill Maher panics.
“But that could be the disease itself…”

Kennedy ends it.
“Then the vaccine doesn’t WORK, does it?”

That’s it. Game over.

If a vaccine doesn’t reduce overall deaths, it failed.
If deaths go UP, it’s not protection. It’s harm.

They censored doctors.
They buried data.
They bullied the public.

Now the truth is leaking out anyway. We have all been gaslighted on an industrial scale.

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Crikeyalmighty · 14/01/2026 12:30

Hoolahoophop · 14/01/2026 12:10

This is a sad case, and there are often reactions to medicines, none a perfectly safe to an individual. Some people will have a bad reaction to paracetamol, antibiotics, anesthetic. But does that mean that we should never use them. That people should put up with headaches, die from bacterial infections that could be saved by a simple course of antibiotics, or have life saving surgery without anesthetic?

Vaccines work if everyone has them they are an example of individuals doing what is best for society as a whole rather than focusing on the individual and the minimal risk to themselves. The individual may have full immunity, partial immunity or in some cases it fails and have no immunity on being vaccinated. Some individuals will have no side effects, some mild side effects and some life changing side effects.

The likelihood of having life changing side effects is low, very low. The benefit of increased immunity in a whole society outweighs the risk to the individual, and benefits the vulnerable in society who may not be able to have a vaccine themselves. At the point where the risk to the individual is drastically outweighed by the benefit to society vaccines are approved. It is evaluated by regulatory bodies, scientists, economists, ethical panels etc. Approval takes time and thought and tough decisions. But on the whole, the evidence presented convinces most people in a working society that the risk is worth the benefit and they will happily and consciously choose to take the vaccine.

Yes that’s what I said below - I had bad issues after my 4th - so wouldn’t have another but I know lots of people of all ages who had no issues at all - that’s the thing with either vaccines or medication , it’s very variable as to how they can affect you , the same applies to something like statins too - gives others very crap side affects, for others seem to work well with no effects at all.

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 12:31

So how did this great global shakedown go down?

"It is a dark, smoke-filled room, February 2019.

Boris Johnson (for it is he): ' Ladies and gentlemen, here it is! The chance we have all been waiting for! For two glorious years we will get to control who eats out and when!'

Small dissenting voice in the corner: 'But Boris, I signed up for enduring world domination!'

(Everyone in the room hushes him)

Man from big pharma: "So we have decided against the big flu conspiracy, then? What was the matter with the cancer screening conspiracy?"

(Everyone in the room hushes him)

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 12:33

Crispynoodle · 14/01/2026 11:54

Right there’s only one way to sort it out! Ban all vaccines for a couple of years and see who dies! So the elderly, disabled, those immunocompromised (myself included), babies, children will die in their thousands. All the world’s ills will come back smallpox, measles, meningitis etc….hmmmmm!

Great plan.

Why does RFK not just do this?

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 12:36

How did all the global governments agree that this was the conspiracy they were going to go with?

And not 5G phone masts?

Did they have a scoring matrix? What were their success criteria?

Crikeyalmighty · 14/01/2026 12:39

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 12:36

How did all the global governments agree that this was the conspiracy they were going to go with?

And not 5G phone masts?

Did they have a scoring matrix? What were their success criteria?

Exactly - and that’s why some kind of conspiracy theory is tosh in my opinion - having lived in Copenhagen during covid ,where you get chucked out of parliament if you claim 600 euros in error I for one couldn’t see Mette going along with this saying ‘this sounds sensible to me’ - nor the New Zealand PM or indeed lots of others

APatternGrammar · 14/01/2026 12:43

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:50

So you believe that the public, who funded the vaccines, paid for the vaccines (through tax), and who took the vaccines (sometimes coerced into doing so), are not entitled to receive safety information about them?

How that for informed consent?

That‘s not what the term ‘informed consent‘ means. But yes, seeing as those members of the public are the ones being protected by not having their raw data shared, I‘m not particularly concerned by this. I‘m much more concerned by people like you spreading health information on the internet as you are a public health danger that is going to kill people, especially babies too young to be vaccinated.

ChillingWithMySnowmies · 14/01/2026 12:48

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:40

I had no opinion either way until a good friend of my DH was left with severe nervous system damage within hours of their first Pfizer vaccine. Initially he was dismissed as a 'coincidence' but now his neurologist has told him unofficially tat the vaccine was the likely cause. The censorship of his posts seeing help for his condition on FB and other online support groups of similarly injured people ept getting taen down. He got banned from FB etc. This opened my eyes, thankfully before I got my first shot, which I then declined.

I don't think anyone thinks for a minute that there weren't people who had adverse reactions to the vaccines. The thing when you mass vaccinate is there will always be anomalies because not every person has the same genetic make up or health. Same as some medications work for some people, and others are allergic, or get nothing from them (i personally don't metabolise opiates painkilling elements, which is a known genetic difference)

I vaccinated as i am a carer and physically vulnerable due to Asthma, and had a couple of different versions of the vaccine, and caught covid 3 times, possibly 4.
Being in the disabled community i can list friends who covid itself left more damaged/disabled,.. i personally blame covid for my onset of fibromyalgia (which i have a genetic predisposition to but hadn't yet developed) i have friends who've since got all kinds of dysautonomic system conditions like POTS, MCAS & VVS after covid.

You know why we know its covid and NOT the vaccination? Because it wasn't post vaccine that we fell ill, it was not recovering AFTER being sick with Covid.

If people choose not to vaccinate, that is up to them, but 6 years after the fact to STILL be banging on about it, and supporting an absolute uneducated, ignorant cunt like RFK is beyond madness.

usedtobeaylis · 14/01/2026 12:50

Grammarninja · 14/01/2026 12:19

The covid vaccine was rushed. There's every chance it will emerge that it wasn't what it should have been. We have to wait for that evidence not just suspect it exists and cling onto unproven hypotheses.
Even if the evidence one day shows that it was terrible and did nothing to prevent covid and caused harm, that doesn't automatically infer that all vaccines are bad. We have so much evidence to prove the contrary. We have to base opinions on proper studies and statistics that are scientifically-based.
Otherwise, you could be throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Rushed by what measure? The smallpox vaccine was developed by one person within two years. The first HIV antiretroviral took four years, and that was in the 80s. And neither of those were built on the same kind of established technologies as the COVID vaccine. It wasn't rushed, it was accelerated within the context of global collaboration.

EligibleTern · 14/01/2026 12:57

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:54

'With' Covid.

Hold on a minute - so people died with Covid, but because of the vaccine? How convenient.

RedTagAlan · 14/01/2026 13:01

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 11:54

When I laugh, I cough.

Please stop making me laugh.

Or feel free to continue 😁

Be thankful you don't have prostrate issues like me.

:-)

soddingspiderseason · 14/01/2026 13:02

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:54

You don't understand nuance do you?

Better to not understand nuance than to not understand basics about how vaccines work. Smallpox anyone?

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 13:02

RedTagAlan · 14/01/2026 13:01

Be thankful you don't have prostrate issues like me.

:-)

I am indeed, sir.

Wishing you every comfort 😊

RedTagAlan · 14/01/2026 13:16

MiniPantherOwner · 14/01/2026 11:29

I'm an epidemiologist. As has already been pointed out several times the article that you linked states at the beginning that there is no evidence that vaccines were the cause of the increased mortality following covid. It also seems to be referring to excess mortality in the entire Japanese population, not comparing the rate in those who did or did not have the covid vaccine. I can't comment on Japan, but having done some work on UK data the reasons for the excess mortality following covid are very clear. Firstly, although deaths from covid dropped once covid became endemic, it still existed and would still have been causing deaths. Secondly, the incidence rates of serious conditions, such as cancer, cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes fell sharply during the early covid lockdowns and increased substantially once the covid lockdowns ended. This can be quite clearly plotted on a graph. Thirdly treatment for those who had already been diagnosed was in some cases delayed. For example certain procedures in patients with heart attacks couldn't be carried out due to lack of intensive care beds, as they were being used for covid patients. This lead to a backlog and patients being diagnosed and treated later leading to increased mortality.

OP can you provide links to any academic papers that give mortality figures for people who did and did not have a covid injection, adjusted for age, sex and comorbidities? Because that is the information you need to support you argument, not the paper you have linked.

There is also the matter of reduced deaths during lockdown. Car accidents etc for example. Many of the usual hazards vanished during lockdowns.

As an interesting anecdote, I was in China during it all, and what people noticed was the clear sky and almost air no pollution during the extended lockdowns. That led people to say, "hold on, the news says we don't have high air pollution."

GAJLY · 14/01/2026 13:24

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 11:49

Is breast cancer screening also a conspiracy?

If not, why not?

If so, how so?

The selective thinking confuses me.

Not everything this government does is caring and helpful. Amidst some helpful things are some hidden experiments on people. The last experiment that killed people in my city was the 60s, so not that long ago. It’s been proved and compensation paid to the families concerned. It is the truth. A lot of people that remember such experiments are suspicious of any help they get from the government, whether it is good or bad.

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 13:26

I just have so many questions, but sadly @Chrissykabel has not reappeared.

Firstly, does she not believe in any medical science? Lives here adult life with recourse to modern medicine? And if not, how does she choose? Are antibiotics ok? If so, why?

Secondly, why are governments and big corporations so good at delivering effective conspiracies but so bad at consistently delivering on the day job? If only they could get the conspiracy department onto driving tests!

Thirdly, has she ever worked in medicine, pharma or government? I suspect not.

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 13:31

GAJLY · 14/01/2026 13:24

Not everything this government does is caring and helpful. Amidst some helpful things are some hidden experiments on people. The last experiment that killed people in my city was the 60s, so not that long ago. It’s been proved and compensation paid to the families concerned. It is the truth. A lot of people that remember such experiments are suspicious of any help they get from the government, whether it is good or bad.

I agree, government has done some terrible things, and tried to cover them up. For decades if not hundreds of years - lots of examples, from Aberfan to the Bow Belle to Hillsborough.

And big pharma has real issues - read Ben Goldacre.

But I don't see how that makes the COVID vaccine a conspiracy. And if it was, and the goal was to control us - how well did that pan out? Is it impacting your plans for 2026?

Thought not.

If you want to be exercised about something, start advocating for real action on climate change, nature preservation, social media controls. Take your pick.

Look forward, not back, and help build something positive, rather than spreading easily disproved nonsense.

Pallisers · 14/01/2026 14:31

A quote from Benjamin Franklin

“In 1736 I lost one of my sons, a fine boy of four years old, by the small-pox, taken in the common way. I long regretted bitterly, and still regret that I had not given it to him by inoculation. This I mention for the sake of parents who omit that operation, on the supposition that they should never forgive themselves if a child died under it; my example showing that the regret may be the same either way, and that, therefore, the safer should be chosen.”

RFK is a real hero. Not only is he re-establishing the right to have your children experience - and die from - normal childhood diseases - surely every child's basic human right. he is also ending "The War on Protein" You probably missed the terrible War on Protein because you were too busy battling The War on Christmas but it is real and RFK is on the frontlines.

Bloozie · 14/01/2026 14:40

War on Protein... Swear to god we are living in a simulation.

BlanketyBlankBlank · 14/01/2026 14:58

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:54

You don't understand nuance do you?

You don’t understand vaccines, do you?

OrlandointheWilderness · 14/01/2026 15:06

Oh just a short point raised by a PP - the Covid vaccine was not rushed.
firstly, Covid 19 is a strain of a disease we already understand, and most of the work was already in place for a vaccine. It simply needed adapting to the specific strain.
and more importantly, the speed in which it came out was not way too fast - the speed in which vaccines are normally developed is far too slow! It illustrates perfectly that when there is money behind it, it isn’t a long process. The reason they take such a long time normally is because vaccination development doesn’t make the money for the big pharmaceutical companies that other things do.

Pallisers · 14/01/2026 16:57

Bloozie · 14/01/2026 14:40

War on Protein... Swear to god we are living in a simulation.

I wish.

LoveItaly · 14/01/2026 17:58

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 11:42

Thank you for this.

To quote a previous post "facts are facts, whether you like them or not" 😁

To be fair that is just a screenshot of a social media post, with no links to any actual data/research etc. A screenshot like that carries no more weight than someone just expressing their own opinion.

PigletJohn · 14/01/2026 17:58

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:24

Ahhh, that old chestnut. Classic case of delusional thinking.

Polio broke out in Gaza last year after the Israeli army destroyed the hospitals, clinics, pharmacies, sewage works, homes and water supplies.

This was as anticipated in the General's Plan.

The outbreak occurred in small children too young to have been vaccinated against Polio.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevjz7zreyxo

Israeli soldiers were offered polio vaccinations and boosters because they were operating inside Gaza.

A Palestinian girl is examined by a doctor amid fears over the spread of polio in Gaza after the first case was reported by the enclave's Ministry of Health, as the war between Israel and Hamas continues, at Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital, in Deir Al-Balah i...

Baby contracts Gaza's first case of polio in 25 years

The head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, says he is "gravely concerned".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevjz7zreyxo

PermanentTemporary · 14/01/2026 18:00

Bookmarking your post @Pallisers, that’s a wonderful quote. Was not expecting to learn something like that on this thread…

PollyPlumPeach · 14/01/2026 23:15

PinkSpritz · 14/01/2026 11:08

That post was extremely clear and easy to follow. If you found it so confusing that it came across as 'word salad' to you, then you definitely aren't someone I would listen to when it comes to health advice. Given the horrific measles outbreak in the US as a result of RFK's anti-vax position, and the subsequent needless and entirely preventable deaths of children from measles, it's clear that he is not a reputable authority on health matters either.

the horrific measles outbreak in the US as a result of RFK's anti-vax position, and the subsequent needless and entirely preventable deaths of children from measles

RFK has a lot to answer for but I don't think he can be blamed for the spike in measles cases. The vast majority of the cases in 2025 were in unvaccinated people who were over the age of 5. The decision not to vaccinate them was made by their parents long before 2025 and so would have had nothing to do with RFK who until late 2024 was a fringe voice nowhere near a position of power.

The spike in 2019 came from the orthodox community who have traditionally been against vaccinations. We will need more data to see where the spike has come from for 2025 - initial data suggests it is migration from countries with lower vaccination rates, so again won't have anything to do with the current nutty regime.

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