Has anyone seen the 1,000 peer reviewed medical papers about vaccine injuries.

[sassandfaff]

community.covidvaccineinjuries.com/compilation-peer-reviewed-medical-papers-of-covid-vaccine-injuries/

Would this influence anyone from getting the next booster?

@foliageeverywhere All-cause mortality being balanced between groups means nothing in this small sample - which is why the larger datasets have been used to categorically demonstrate vaccines reduce risk of death.

So do you mean that we need to look beyond RCTs, when there's not enough evidence in these?

This seems like you're attempting to lead me down a path where you can say "gotcha"!

You can't force trial data to give you an answer they are not designed to do - with a disease like COVID where risk of death is relatively low, they are underpowered to tell you if vaccines reduce death.

Replicated, well designed observational studies - which includes the triangulation of various methods with differing and unrelated sources of bias - have demonstrated across multiple contexts that vaccination reduces risk of death from COVID.

It takes more than a sentence to give a decent explanation to a clickbait claim, especially when you're replying to someone who I'm assuming isn't an epidemiologist.

This is what I mean when I say you can't just wade into something like types of evidence & study design and start throwing statements around if you don't have any previous experience in these methods.

I made no such claims. I simply posted a link to a newspaper article about this pending disciplinary hearing for spreading misinformation detrimental to public heath. Here it is again for anyone who missed it.

B.C. doctor to face disciplinary panel over 'misleading, incorrect or inflammatory' claims about COVID-19 - Dr. Charles Hoffe told patients to buy veterinary ivermectin, made false claims about vaccines, college says

A B.C. doctor who's been touring the province and giving public speeches that include false claims about the COVID-19 vaccine is facing a hearing over allegations of professional misconduct.

The College of Physicians and Surgeons of B.C. has posted a notice online saying a citation has been issued for family physician Dr. Charles Hoffe of Lytton for "publishing statements on social media and other digital platforms that were misleading, incorrect or inflammatory about vaccinations, treatments and public measures relating to COVID-19."

Vancouver pediatrician Dr. Alastair McAlpine, one of more than a dozen doctors who've filed complaints against Hoffe with the college, said he has mixed feelings about the news.

"[I'm] grateful on the one hand that something is being done, but also just disappointment because it honestly feels like it's too little too late … and there's no indication that his licence has been limited in any way, which means he can continue to spread the misinformation that he's been spreading," McAlpine told CBC News.

A college disciplinary panel will consider evidence that includes Hoffe's recommendation for patients to use the antiparasitic medication ivermectin to treat COVID-19, and suggesting they visit animal feed stores to buy the veterinary version of the treatment, according to the notice.

2 B.C. doctors went on a COVID-19 speaking tour. Colleagues say their misinformation put public at risk

Ivermectin has become popular in anti-vaccine circles as a treatment for the coronavirus, but the most recent research suggests it is not effective and consuming a formulation meant for animals can have serious side-effects.
The notice also points to Hoffe's false claims that COVID-19 vaccines are more dangerous than the disease, including "publicly expressing that the COVID-19 vaccinations cause microscopic blood clots that cause serious neurological harm, female infertility and a high number of deaths that is not recognized by public health."

His incorrect suggestions that vaccinated people can cause harm to unvaccinated people will be under consideration, as well.

CBC News has contacted Hoffe for comment, but he has yet to reply.

@MissConductUS
here is your quote:

MissConductUS
Ah yes, Dr Hoffe.

Dr. Charles Hoffe told patients to buy veterinary ivermectin, made false claims about vaccines, college says

You are also the same person who finds it "almost funny when anti-vaxer's end up in the hospital with hypoxia."

😂

@EcoTourist another thing I love about the assumptions of scientific neutrality with respect to different drugs is that the ridiculous number of problems with the Pfizer vaccine trials (to take one example) see very little light of day (while of course use/misuse of low quality evidence for things like Ivermectin is shouted about (even ridiculed) in national newspapers). Whistleblowers have written to the BMJ; Pfizer wanted to keep their data under wraps for 75 years (and are reluctantly releasing it in as unintelligible a form as possible); findings from the trials were misrepresented widely in the media... but don't worry - there are no biases there. If you're not an epidemiologist (any other type of scientist/data analyst not applicable), make sure you don't worry your pretty little head about all these complicated things like study design and conduct.

IMHO, the most appropriate response really is to laugh, disengage, and keep your eyes open to it all. Sometimes, it's just too tempting to jump in here and see what happens, but invariably, it's a waste of time. Hope you have a good day, anyway.

If you're not an epidemiologist (any other type of scientist/data analyst not applicable), make sure you don't worry your pretty little head about all these complicated things like study design and conduct

I gave you a detailed answer to a fake claim you were making, and this is all you can post back about it. It's just silly.

No-one has said anything about not "worrying your pretty little head about it" - but if you don't have experience in something, it makes sense to take longer to try and understand if what you are saying is logical, rather than just repeating things you've heard on the internet.

If thousands of heart surgeons had established the best way to carry out a type of surgery, and then I saw an article entitled "CARDIOLOGISTS WRONG" - I would take some time to actually consider the arguments rather than just wading in and saying stuff I don't fully understand.

@foliageeverywhere you have a lovely day, too. Seriously - it's SO silly how personal these threads get. It's OK to disagree. Can't discuss any further as have already wasted far too much time and need to work properly. All the best.

Exploring the relationship between all-cause and cardiac-related mortality following COVID-19 vaccination or infection in Florida residents: a self-controlled case series study

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccines-analysis.pdf?utmmedium=email&utmm_source=govdelivery

That’s an interesting move by Florida.

it all troubles me greatly.

@bronzepig
i do not understand your question. this is a link to the pfizer trial data that someone earlier in the thread was asking about.

@foliageeverywhere wrote

So you're not going to link the Pfizer data @BeethovenNinth ?

As I said, I can't give you an answer unless you actually share what it is you're referring to.

⬆️ is my reason for sharing the link to answer your question
@bronzepig

Ok - so now I have a list of 394 documents that can be downloaded...

I would still need to know what specifically the claim being made is & which document it's referring to, if you want an answer to the question "are you not concerned about the Pfizer data?".

@foliageeverywhere
i didn't ask any questions of you, so i wouldn't know...

Well, I've had an iatrogenic injury from a psychotropic drug (am antipsychotic called Pericyazine) so I'm extra cautious a lot more these days about any medication and side effects. Even things likely to be ok, like vaccines. I have had an acute dystonic reaction to both a calcium vitamin pill once and on another occasion, an antifungal cream, both of which I'd probably not have reacted to pre-injury.

Understandably, I'm more overcautious than the average person but I think I'm justified in my mind. I never had any problems with any medication prior to my drug induced injury though, which is really annoying as it means now I have to watch the side effects of everything. Call me cynical, but once bitten...

My neurological involuntary movement disorder is pretty much permanent unfortunately. Life is shitty and unfair but it is what it is. I'm taking my chances with Covid than running the risk of further injury from another medication. I'm not stopping others from having it though.

any thought on the together trial being funded by ftx?

Instead of spamming multiple threads with cryptic posts, why don't you just explicitly say what you mean @peppathe3rd?

Who are ftx, why you see this as a problem, and do you have a relevant link so people can read about it?

@strupel
oh, i'm sorry. i thought everyone had heard about it. all over the news. ftx is that gigantic money scam - the head fled to south america yesterday. i wasn't trying to be cryptic, nor "spam" the 2 threads i posted this message

ftx

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2115869

As replied previously, why does it concern you that they contributed funding to the Together trial?

All you've done is link one of the sub studies from Together.

And why post it on vaccine threads?

FTX didn't fund this trial.

Again this seems to be a case of 2+2= 5

Thank you so much for your excellent research. Yes, it seems FTX joined the financing in May as you found. I'm really sorry to have posted something that was incorrect, and I am very happy to know that this did not happen. The idea of these important studies being compromised by unethical funding is awful, and I am relieved that I was wrong in my assumption. I read about this having taken place and FTX was on the Together Trials home page, but I did not investigate further regarding the dates. No wonder none of the medical team on here had heard about it - because it didn't happen. I am thrilled to have been wrong and to have been corrected. Thank you. I'll post this same message on the other thread to avoid anyone else wasting time. Do you all think I should delete the earlier posts? I don't want to mislead anyone to be sure!