Has anyone seen the 1,000 peer reviewed medical papers about vaccine injuries.

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community.covidvaccineinjuries.com/compilation-peer-reviewed-medical-papers-of-covid-vaccine-injuries/

Would this influence anyone from getting the next booster?

@MrsFezziwig
Hi! In my opinion, this subject is being discussed again because it remains present in our lives. I wish you the very best in your decision, but just because I am not at an age to have the booster doesn't meant that my interest dies. I care about any person out there in this tricky world, and would feel equally sad were any of you to suffer from an adverse vaccine event or from the virus itself. We are all connected, and I find it helpful to be able to learn from others with whom I might have differing opinions. I appreciate this forum, and I just wanted to explain why I have interacted today. I am sorry that you feel pushed in one way or another, and I just thought I would write a quick message to say hello and send my best wishes your way.

@peppathe3rd Thank you again for your kind words and understanding despite my grouchiness 💐Completely agree with your earlier post about compassion and kindness which is something I should do more of on this thread 🫣

What is funny about anyone turning up at hospital with hypoxia? You haven't done yourself any favours here but I wouldn't expect any different. Pure viciousness and immaturity. Being unvaccinated doesn't give you hypoxia. I haven't been sick since this whole thing started, nor have I tested or worn a mask or sanitised my shopping! Oh aren't I so selfish!

Being unvaccinated doesn't give you hypoxia.

No of course not, but there is unequivocal evidence that being vaccinated reduces your risk of moderate/severe illness with COVID, which includes hypoxia.

Your choice whether you want it or not, but I think posters take issues with the repeated claims that vaccination is unhelpful or is actively unhelpful.

Hopefully yourself, sunglassesonthetable, Dishh, leafyygreens or foliageeverywhere (our resident guardians) will be able to give some more information about this, it's normally very quick to receive a response?

Someone sounds oddly defensive - I'm somewhat honoured by the title, actually.

FWIW, I've not really seen much vitriol aimed at anti-vaxers/anti-maskers and the like on MN. @Foliageeverywhere, for example, is always polite in her posts. Always. And patient.

They like to imagine it is some kind of never-ending deluge though. They do like to aim aggression the other way.

Many doctors are saying the opposite. Dr Charles Hoffe from Canada is calling it a 'pandemic of the vaccinated' and the shots are severely damaging the immune system. He also says that 92% of covid deaths were in the fully vaccinated.

Can you provide evidence of this please?

Is the evidence to support this percentage … sounds high?

Ah yes, Dr Hoffe.

B.C. doctor to face disciplinary panel over 'misleading, incorrect or inflammatory' claims about COVID-19

Dr. Charles Hoffe told patients to buy veterinary ivermectin, made false claims about vaccines, college says

A B.C. doctor who's been touring the province and giving public speeches that include false claims about the COVID-19 vaccine is facing a hearing over allegations of professional misconduct.

The College of Physicians and Surgeons of B.C. has posted a notice online saying a citation has been issued for family physician Dr. Charles Hoffe of Lytton for "publishing statements on social media and other digital platforms that were misleading, incorrect or inflammatory about vaccinations, treatments and public measures relating to COVID-19."

Vancouver pediatrician Dr. Alastair McAlpine, one of more than a dozen doctors who've filed complaints against Hoffe with the college, said he has mixed feelings about the news.

"[I'm] grateful on the one hand that something is being done, but also just disappointment because it honestly feels like it's too little too late … and there's no indication that his licence has been limited in any way, which means he can continue to spread the misinformation that he's been spreading," McAlpine told CBC News.

A college disciplinary panel will consider evidence that includes Hoffe's recommendation for patients to use the antiparasitic medication ivermectin to treat COVID-19, and suggesting they visit animal feed stores to buy the veterinary version of the treatment, according to the notice.

Well theres a surprise - not. I was waiting for someone turn up with something like this AGAIN

Dr Vernon Coleman has his wiki page tarnished when he spoke out against the vaccines. No one is allowed to go against the vaccinnes - oh no!

Also if people like yourself believe these claims about doctors who speak out are being dishonest, then why do you believe that all the mainstream doctors and scientists are being honest?

COVID-19-Associated Hospitalizations Among Vaccinated and Unvaccinated Adults 18 Years or Older in 13 US States, January 2021 to April 2022

Key Points
Question
How do COVID-19–associated hospitalization rates compare among adults who are unvaccinated and vaccinated, and what are the risk factors for hospitalization for COVID-19 among vaccinated persons?

Findings
In this cross-sectional study of US adults hospitalized with COVID-19 during January 2022 to April 2022 (during Omicron variant predominance), COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates were 10.5 times higher in unvaccinated persons and 2.5 times higher in vaccinated persons with no booster dose, respectively, compared with those who had received a booster dose. Compared with unvaccinated hospitalized persons, vaccinated hospitalized persons were more likely to be older and have more underlying medical conditions.

Meaning
The study results suggest that COVID-19 vaccines are strongly associated with prevention of serious COVID-19 illness.

@PAFMO If it's not deadly to 98% of the population that makes Covid significantly more deadly than Polio.

Covid was downgraded in March 2020, meaning it was no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease. www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

Dr Charles Hoffe said 'fully vaccinated individuals' So even if someone had just one vaccine they were classed as unvaccinated.

@Dishh @MissConductUS
You only have to scroll up a few posts to read

MissConductUS
But downplaying covid like this and stating the vaccine is more dangerous is not supported by any evidence.

Well put. Anti-vaxers think there is a risk free option. There isn't. It's almost funny when they turn up in A&E with hypoxia.

Finding it funny when anti-vaxers turn up in the hospital is a disturbing sentiment to say the least. 3 posts, now 4, have addressed it, but as of now, no one arguing for the vaccine has acknowledged it (aside from the hypoxia). This is a good example of the sort of comments we receive on these boards. You honestly do not find that statement rude or vitriolic? If someone were reluctant to take the vaccine and posted something as horrible as that towards vaccinated individuals, I would be equally horrified. Integrity is not relative.

If that’s the case then I wonder why no one on the vaccine-cautious side has pulled up a certain poster for saying we shouldn’t give a shit about people who’ve had the vaccine and injecting “that” into kids was “shocking”?

Finding it funny when anti-vaxers turn up in the hospital is a disturbing sentiment to say the least. 3 posts, now 4, have addressed it, but as of now, no one arguing for the vaccine has acknowledged it (aside from the hypoxia). This is a good example of the sort of comments we receive on these boards. You honestly do not find that statement rude or vitriolic? If someone were reluctant to take the vaccine and posted something as horrible as that towards vaccinated individuals, I would be equally horrified. Integrity is not relative.

I said "I've not really seen much vitriol aimed at anti-vaxers/anti-maskers and the like on MN" - meaning you may see a little, but compared to the other side, it pales. The statement above is grotesque.

@MissConductUS
a link in regards to the feed store veterinary medicine you referenced...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33592050/

Ivermectin is a nobel prize winning medication.

www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-release/

@BewareTheLibrarians
I did address that comment you mentioned directly, and, again, I find it horrific. I actually tried to find the comment you mentioned but without knowing the username or date, I didn't have success in finding it. I would gladly denounce that as egregious. I scrolled through this very long thread last night with that purpose, but I didn't find it.

@peppathe3rd Thanks - I think you would definitely address that kind of comment so you can rest assured it’s not you that anyone has a problem with! However when comments like that are left unchallenged by same posters who then go on complain of vitriol on one side only, it’s very frustrating and makes me not want to stand up against comments that they might find insulting. Which leads to this ridiculous cycle of accusing and defending that doesn’t get anyone anywhere. You were definitely right earlier about more compassion needed on both sides and you’ve shown that’s actually easy!)

I'm not sure the above statement is correct...

Later debunked.

Why HCQ and Ivermectin were removed from India’s Covid-19 treatment protocol - Ivermectin and HCQ were dropped from the clinical guidance after studies found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.

The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.

“HCQ may be considered for removal from guideline, with recommendation to use with caution only in clinical trial setting (since there is some genuine uncertainty regarding the possible benefit for severe cases and in low dose),” said the document titled ‘considerations for exclusion of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine from the clinical guidance for management of adult Covid-19 patients’.

Several clinical studies have shown the low mortality benefit for HCQ, said the document. In fact, when HCQ is administered with azithromycin, it increases the risk of adverse drug effect (ADE) in patients, experts said.

Studies also found there was no clarity on mortality benefit, no effect on length of hospital stay and recovery in case of Ivermectin.

@MissConductUS
I was addressing your statement that the doctors you debunk are recommending that people take veterinary medication purchased at feed stores to treat Covid. That would sound like lunacy to anyone, so I wanted to make sure the people in the thread were aware that the discovery of Ivermectin actually won the Nobel Prize for human use decades ago. Medications are repurposed quite regularly by physicians, and many physicians have had excellent results with the use of this treatment. I went to school with one such doctor, and she has been completely demonised publicly for her use of this treatment, even though she has treated thousands of patients and not lost a single one to Covid. I understand this is anecdotal, but referencing physicians that have been covered by the media automatically leads to debunking claims, so I thought I would share this information that I know about personally. To have in our arsenal a decades long approved and studied and nobel prize winning medication would be a positive step. I could share more on this subject, but I understand that it is only anecdotal so most likely not of interest. P.S. Do you honestly find it funny when "anti-vaxers" end up in the hospital?

Invermectin won the Nobel prize because of its innovatory successes against parasitic diseases.

It's not been shown to be effective against covid. Just like lots of other existing (in their time revolutionary, important, ground breaking and award-winning) drugs aren't any use against covid (or any other disease outside their actual mechanism)