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Has anyone seen the 1,000 peer reviewed medical papers about vaccine injuries.

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sassandfaff · 19/09/2022 19:55

community.covidvaccineinjuries.com/compilation-peer-reviewed-medical-papers-of-covid-vaccine-injuries/

Would this influence anyone from getting the next booster?

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Reallyreallyborednow · 19/09/2022 20:32

*If a journal publishes a study to say that the chance of heart problems for young men is xyz, if they take the vaccine.....that doesn't mean they're anti-vax.

Surely these things should be studied whatever your viewpoint?*

they are being studied. What you need to look for is a published review, not a list of journals on an anti vax site.

have you read them all? Have you been able to draw conclusions? Is it 100 papers saying catastrophic illness directly related to vaccines, or is it 100 papers saying some people were mildly ill for a few days?

or are you looking at a list without reading any of them and drawing the conclusions vaccines are causing serious harm?

why don’t you read them all then, publish your own literature review and get back to us…

Redburnett · 19/09/2022 20:32

Booked my Autumn booster today.
I believe the issues raised in the papers relate mainly to rare effects of one specific vaccine in younger people - as soon as it was recognised younger people were given a different vaccine.

Sittingonabench · 19/09/2022 20:35

Looking at data from across the world regarding cases and numbers of deaths since the vaccine is pretty substantial evidence in favour of vaccination. So no these don’t change anything for me. There may be a risk but it is minimal in my opinion similar to that of taking any medicine.

activediscussions · 19/09/2022 20:47

I can think of 4 very fit and healthy people who had heart attacks and died just this year alone, within a day or so of high level exercise. This included a friend's daughter who gave birth and then died.

I wish there was decent investigations. Everyone starts talking about right wing press or conspiracies. I am neither. I am just concerned.

Reallyreallyborednow · 19/09/2022 20:49

*I can think of 4 very fit and healthy people who had heart attacks and died just this year alone, within a day or so of high level exercise. This included a friend's daughter who gave birth and then died.

I wish there was decent investigations. Everyone starts talking about right wing press or conspiracies. I am neither. I am just concerned*

all sudden deaths will be investigated and be subject to PM and an inquest.

why do you think they aren’t?

Wanda616 · 19/09/2022 20:52

activediscussions · 19/09/2022 20:47

I can think of 4 very fit and healthy people who had heart attacks and died just this year alone, within a day or so of high level exercise. This included a friend's daughter who gave birth and then died.

I wish there was decent investigations. Everyone starts talking about right wing press or conspiracies. I am neither. I am just concerned.

There are decent investigations. Hundreds and hundreds of them. And coroners reports and inquests and yellow flags and meta analyses and peer reviews, and reviewing bodies double checking approvals and licences. Your friends sad deaths may have been linked to their vaccines. Almost anything can kill a person - penicillin, peanuts, a bee sting, crossing the road. But as hard as it may be for individuals, this is about the large scale numbers. How likely is a serious adverse reaction, versus how much death and serious injury will the vaccine prevent? Over and over it has been proven that vaccine is - IN GENERAL, for most people, and on a population level - massively, massively safer than no vaccine.

sunglassesonthetable · 19/09/2022 20:56

*all sudden deaths will be investigated and be subject to PM and an inquest.

why do you think they aren’t?*

@Reallyreallyborednow

Numbat2022 · 19/09/2022 20:57

The fact that the studies are in peer reviewed journals simply means the effects of the vaccination are being studied - it doesn't mean the journal is anti-vax. Surely it's a good thing to study the effects of any medication?

All medications have an effect on bodies, they wouldn't be any good without it. Sometimes, in some people, that effect can be negative. It's unfortunate but on balance evidence shows being vaccinated is safer than not.

MissConductUS · 19/09/2022 20:59

The first hundred or so seemed to be case reports about myocarditis, not actual studies. Consider this as a different way of looking at it.

COVID-19 infection poses higher risk for myocarditis than vaccines

Looking for proof that there is zero risk is impossible. It's like trying to prove that leprechauns don't exist. You have to consider the relative risk, which is massively in favor of getting the vaccine.

ChilliBandit · 19/09/2022 21:00

100% of the people I know who had the vaccine only had mild side effects. The 2 unvaccinated person I know are the only people I know who got very very ill with covid (both now fine fortunately). Anecdotal data works both ways and is equally meaningless.

thedancingbear · 19/09/2022 21:06

No.

rosael56 · 19/09/2022 21:14

Nope. I had my 4th jab two weeks ago. Very grateful to be offered it.

Mybeautifulfriend22 · 19/09/2022 21:16

activediscussions · 19/09/2022 20:47

I can think of 4 very fit and healthy people who had heart attacks and died just this year alone, within a day or so of high level exercise. This included a friend's daughter who gave birth and then died.

I wish there was decent investigations. Everyone starts talking about right wing press or conspiracies. I am neither. I am just concerned.

Young people unfortunately can and do die suddenly. It happens. It still happened before vaccines. Very fit healthy people can also die suddenly.

I’m not saying it’s a definite that a vaccine wasn’t a cause but it also works vice Versa for it not being the cause. People will have investigations into their sudden unexplained deaths. Often it’s found there is an unknown health cause often with their hearts. Sometimes no real reason can be found.

Medications all carry a risk of side effects, sometimes we can adversely react to them, not just vaccines. Millions of people had these vaccines in huge numbers all in a short time so I’m sure more research/info is being collected on these reactions/injuries.

columbo83 · 19/09/2022 21:23

There's no way I'm having a 4th shot. Purely because of how the other 3 made me feel.
I've had vivid, I'm vulnerable but would rather take the hit.

JenJones5 · 19/09/2022 21:24

I know someone who, barely five months after their last booster, got appalling food poisoning.

Is anyone genuinely claiming that this is unrelated?

MissConductUS · 19/09/2022 21:28

JenJones5 · 19/09/2022 21:24

I know someone who, barely five months after their last booster, got appalling food poisoning.

Is anyone genuinely claiming that this is unrelated?

😂

ChilliBandit · 19/09/2022 21:31

@columbo83 - I think that’s fair enough, you’ve made a risk assessment based on how covid and the vaccines have affected you previously. I think that’s different to the OP posting out of context studies, irrelevant to the vast majority of the population, from a website with a glaring bias and using that to get people to doubt future vaccinations.

SudocremOnEverything · 19/09/2022 21:34

sassandfaff · 19/09/2022 20:09

@Trolltrotters Which researchers are the gold standard?

Look, if you really have no idea how medical research works or what high quality evidence looks like, maybe you’d be best off believing the NHS (who have employed people who do very much know this stuff and are able to make recommendations based on high quality evidence) rather than googling lists on anti vax sites.

A list of papers mostly reporting some
anecdotal outcomes - and only the ones that might possibly support the anti vax position, tells you nothing about the overall evidence for vaccine safety and efficacy.

LemonSwan · 19/09/2022 21:36

Same as you @columbo83

Weird stuff happened to me after my vaccines. Deep down I know they weren’t right for me. And no not a conspiracy theorist. I had mine the first week they came out - months before any of these potential issues ever came to light.

So that’s it for me. Fingers crossed 😬

SophieIsHereToday · 19/09/2022 21:37

Have you read all 1000 articles.

I took one at random number 25 of thrombocytopenia.

It discusses a 60 year old man with "history of tobacco use, Hepatitis C liver cirrhosis, chronic kidney disease stage 4, untreated hypertension and systolic congestive heart failure at the baseline. "

That's quite the list. He developed a rash consistent with thrombocytopenia. Firstly it is a single event and thus rare considering billions of people had this vaccine. Secondly he sounds incredibly unhealthy for a man of 60 before even having the vaccine. It might well have happened to him that day, even if he has not had the vaccine in question

CockleandMuscles · 19/09/2022 21:39

There are lots of people who think adverse effects are rare and that anyone claiming to be vaccine-injured is an anti-vaxxer.
I've suffered life-changing health issues from my jab.
I was the most pro-vaccine person you could meet. I still am in some ways. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I hate the fact that we are being lied to.
The truth is that the injuries are being covered up. The support group I've joined have to use code words on Facebook to avoid being shut down.
Medical professionals are covering it up too. My GP said "I don't believe you". An A&E Doctor said "we know it's happening but I can't put it down in writing". My Neurologist agreed to refer to the vaccine in his notes but only because he was retiring soon!
Vaccine injuries have been around for years but the levels of injuries from this vaccine are unprecedented and we are being stopped from talking about it.
Yes the majority are having no adverse effects. But we are not being told how many are injured.
I would not wish what I've been through on my worst enemy.

SudocremOnEverything · 19/09/2022 21:39

because even the question ‘which researchers are the gold standard?’ is a clear indication that you don’t understand this stuff.

The people running these sites have an agenda and they don’t want to equip you with tools to actually evaluate the evidence. No reputable site would just post a list of ‘studies’. They’d carry out a systematic review and explain their assessment of
the evidence base as a whole. And they’d have their review properly peer reviewed too.

CoffeeWithCheese · 19/09/2022 21:46

I have neurological issues after the AZ jabs - I'm choosing to have no more based on the fact that they clearly disagreed with some element of my body and I don't fancy pushing that further. No issues with people who want as many as they're offering, no issues with those who don't - I do get annoyed at the accusations of being a conspiracy theorist/idiot/Trump supporter etc if you dare have had side effects. Law of it all is that SOME unlucky bugger's going to get hit with side effects from any jab - this time around it was me (could I not have won the lottery instead ffs), but I would like the medical establishment to take people seriously and have some hope of something to mitigate the fucking burning nerve pain!

ChilliBandit · 19/09/2022 21:51

The covid vaccine is pretty unique in the scale of vaccines being delivered in the timescale it is being delivered. Billions of doses in under two years has never happened before. Of course Drs are going to see more of the 1 in x million reactions because billions of doses are being delivered. There is literally no benefit to a vaccine which does more harm than good, it would be completely pointless and detrimental to the government. They need us healthy and working to pay taxes whatever country you live in. We know a larger than average number of healthcare workers due to DH job, all vaccinated, not one of them “scared” to talk about potential side effects or report them. The statistics for how many people had what reactions are widely available.

RoseAndRose · 19/09/2022 21:53

How long is the list of papers showing the complications of the disease, and the number of injuries - and deaths - from that?