Has anyone seen the 1,000 peer reviewed medical papers about vaccine injuries.

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community.covidvaccineinjuries.com/compilation-peer-reviewed-medical-papers-of-covid-vaccine-injuries/

Would this influence anyone from getting the next booster?

You should be angry at the people who did this to you, it was completely unnecessary.

yeah right 🙄

The only people complicit in harming the younger generations is people spreading misinformation and half truths about vaccines. When we suddenly start seeing children dying from polio or measles again I hope the anti vaxxers and covid deniers think it was worth it.

well said.

The only people complicit in harming the younger generations is people spreading misinformation and half truths about vaccines. When we suddenly start seeing children dying from polio or measles again I hope the anti vaxxers and covid deniers think it was worth it

Children will die from the measles because people were following blanket recommendations from public health bodies that needed to appear as ‘doing something’ and not based on any sort of evidence (just like in the decision to lock down, preserve ICU beds, use early ventilation, wear masks).

A lot of people don’t trust vaccines anymore, from just their personal experience and the expectations that getting the vaccine would largely prevent Covid.

It was a shame to push something an individual didn’t need just to protect others. You expect your doctor to make recommendations that is best for you—not what is better for society as a whole, particularly an ageing society.

The younger generation should have been left alone. They would have been fine.

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The younger generation were harmed for no reason. It should make people angry. But they will blame anti-vaxxers or whoever instead of the people who had real authority and decided to shut everything down, with zero evidence it helped anyone, and recommend vaccinations for people who didn’t need it on the assumption it would help society as a whole—but turned out this was riskier for the younger generation, when it should have been the older generation sacrificing for the young. Horrible.

Like, if you are happy to get the vaccine, great. Go get it. Your body your choice.

But don’t pretend that Covid harms weren’t disproportionately borne by the young—they were, and it was all so needless.

Children will die from the measles because people were following blanket recommendations from public health bodies that needed to appear as ‘doing something’ and not based on any sort of evidence

This is a bit vague, but surely you're not suggesting that deaths from measles would be lower if we didn't vaccinate for it?

Basic Measles Facts

Key facts

• Measles is one of the leading causes of death among young children even though a safe and cost-effective vaccine is available.
• In 2016, there were 89 780 measles deaths globally - marking the first year measles deaths have fallen below 100 000 per year.
• Measles vaccination resulted in a 84% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2016 worldwide.

Berries

The younger generation were harmed for no reason.

I suppose that is the point at which we disagree.

And who is blaming anti vaxites for lock downs??? No one. But they are 100% to blame for misinformation.

I think the death figures will tell you who bore the fundamental Covid harms.
And please don't say " but they were old anyway".

And Berries I think this. I'm not pretending anything.

@BerriesOnTop

But they will blame anti-vaxxers or whoever instead of the people who had real authority and decided to shut everything down, with zero evidence it helped anyone, and recommend vaccinations for people who didn’t need it on the assumption it would help society as a whole—but turned out this was riskier for the younger generation, when it should have been the older generation sacrificing for the young. Horrible.

Ugh. What a disgusting statement that not only betrays a complete misunderstanding of what a vaccine is but also the concept of 'society'.

OP you only need to look at the extremely dodgy name of the website. There's no science articles that support the veracity of COVID vaccines listed on this website because the point of it is to offer a very unbalanced one sided view and scare monger. Scientific articles vastly outweighing the number of articles on this website, which are pro vaccine, and very reputable, can be found in the same science journals as articles listed here! But usually with much higher sample numbers. But they're obviously ignored as it doesn't suit the agenda of this website.

Sadly OP you can even get side effects from having a coffee or a paracetamol. Side effects for a small minority who suffer adverse reactions to something will always occur. It's terribly misleading to present those as this website has.

No. I am saying there are people who have lost trust in vaccines full stop and won’t vaccinate their children as before. It sadly happened in the Philippines after problems with the Dengue vaccine—people lost trust in vaccines and didn’t get the MMR, which led to the deaths of many children.

My overall point is that the risk-benefit of Covid vaccines for the young generations is very unclear, there’s debate over whether young males in particular are harmed by it. They certainly don’t get much benefit from it, unless they are morbidly obese or have a serious condition like cancer. But we could have just recommended vaccination just for those groups instead of blanket recommendations that fail to account for individual health or personal circumstances.

Dr. Aseem Malhotra who promoted COVID-19 vaccine on TV calls for its immediate suspension to investigate serious side effects.

aosis.co.za/news-dr-aseem-malhotra-who-promoted-covid-19-vaccine-on-tv-calls-for-its-immediate-suspension-to-investigate-serious-side-effects/

Dr. Aseem Malhotra who promoted COVID-19 vaccine on TV calls for its immediate suspension to investigate serious side effects

look at the article:

“Writing in the peer-reviewed Journal of Insulin Resistance (JIR), one of the UK’s most eminent Consultant Cardiologists Dr. Aseem Malhotra, who was one of the first to take two doses of the vaccine and promote it on Good Morning Britain, says that since the rollout of the vaccine the evidence of its effectiveness and true rates of adverse events have changed”

so a) he’s a cardiologist, b) the article is about vaccines.

so why publish this oh so important review in a little known “journal of insulin resistance”, which has nothing to do with either the topic or his specialty?

these are the little things that scientists know that the public and their google searches don’t. The most likely explanation is that he couldn’t get it published anywhere else because it doesn’t stand up to the scrutiny of the more prestigious journals. So before you even read the content you know it’s probably not great, and add to that he’s gone on tv to tell people about this supposed key scientific article…if it was good enough not to be buried in an irrelevant journal it would be read by key scientists in the field and would stand on it’s own merit…

Maybe because he is seeing a rise in cardiovascular events? Wasn’t it like 20 k more as per nhs statistics? And publishing in magazines which allow him to do so?

Is no one bothered about the AZ non mRNA vaccine any more? That was the devil incarnate at one point.

That's the one that caused my side effect issues.

I noted Dr Maholtra’s article with interest but it wasn’t reported in any mainstream media. I find this odd.

I also the article from JAMA pediatrics which found some of the vaccine ends up in breast Milk after all. Again not reported.

i wish there could be a sensible debate here. If there is nothing to see then let’s discuss that. Instead excess deaths remain up and we don’t know why.

I am jumpy.

can anyone reassure please? I agree we follow “science” but what does that mean?

Malhotra has gone full Wakfield. His commentary article is bizzare, and doesn't tell us anything alarming or new. There are some good threads on twitter from other clinicians, including one of his ex-collegues (Malhotra no longer works for the NHS.)

The JAMA peads article again is reassuring, if you read beyond the scary headlines. After 48 hours post vaccination no women were found to have mRNA in their breastmilk - the authors conclude that breastfeeding after vaccination is safe, and if women wanted to be extra careful they could wait a couple of days before breastfeeding. The amounts detected were in the parts per billions - and this is just nucleic acid which will be degraded in the stomach. There's a reason the vaccine has to be injected. Again, lots of threads online with scientists providing a breakdown of the article.

The media aren't reporting on Malhotra because his claims are baseless, they widely reporting on the JAMA article because it's a decent, though small, study.

For whatever reason, there is a big push from disinformation campaigners right now - remember this is a billion pound industry, and those at the top are profiting significantly.

Commentary about Malhotra:

twitter.com/MedCrisis/status/1574656386771742720

Breakdown about the mRNA breastmilk study:

twitter.com/VikiLovesFACS/status/1574663804801388547

Mainstream are not reporting anything that goes against the vaccine. It's all very one sided. Those who speak out get ridiculed - it's so tiring. Even those with their own personal vax reactions get censored for mis-information. The biggest group on facebook about personal stories of vax reactions has just been taken down after it reached over 300,000 members all sharing heartbreaking stories.

People must do their own research now. It's always been there if you look in the right places, and whilst I realise alot of these doctors who speak out are asking you to buy stuff - there are lots that don't and have been ridiculed and censored. Dr Vernon Coleman being one of the good ones.

I’m a bit concerned that genuine debate is always being shut down …

It makes the vaccine industry look as though they’re hiding something - even when they’re probably not hiding anything at all!

The disinformation campaigns and fake claims from people like Vernon Coleman actively harm people who legitimately have had side effects from vaccines @Samarie123

They don't care though - not when they're making a career out of it.

Ps I’ve had all my vaccines on the basis that side effects are few and far between. I’m aware I may not know everything there is to know - but I’m putting my faith into the medical profession, all whilst being as healthy as possible.

Th mumsnet scientist will keep insisting it's safe so it's safe. Yet so may people dying suddenly and becoming sick, it's long covid innit. Denial is brutal.

the mumsnet scientist will keep insisting it's safe so it's safe

There is literally no evidence to suggest rolling out the vaccines to everyone was a mistake.

Vaccines have side effects - these ones are no different - but it's clear that it was safer to be vaccinated than remain unvaccinated.

If you are not convinced then that's your opinion. Boosters are being offered to a minority of the UK population, if you are one of these people and don't want it, then turn it down.

Yet so may people dying suddenly and becoming sick,

where?

Mainstream are not reporting anything that goes against the vaccine. It's all very one sided.

Really? So Trumpian.

Those who speak out get ridiculed - it's so tiring.

Where are they ridiculed? What is this huge 'plot'?*
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Th mumsnet scientist will keep insisting it's safe so it's safe.

Medical science says it's safe. ( we all know nothing is 100% safe )

56 billion doses say it pretty safe.

Don't want . Don't take it.