Has anyone seen the 1,000 peer reviewed medical papers about vaccine injuries.

[sassandfaff]

community.covidvaccineinjuries.com/compilation-peer-reviewed-medical-papers-of-covid-vaccine-injuries/

Would this influence anyone from getting the next booster?

can anyone reassure please? I agree we follow “science” but what does that mean?

you follow advice from multiple organisations. Who, nhs, nice, lots out there who have teams of scientists reviewing all the data and publishing best practice advice.

if the vaccines were causing more harm than good, why on earth do you think the NHS have chosen to spend billions on its roll out? Far easier to just not bother, and let people die. All those nightingale hospitals could have been used as huge palliative care units. Pain relief, oxygen, and let nature take it’s course. Much cheaper.

funnily enough we didn’t need to do that because the nhs has “done it’s research” and the vaccine works. Yes it has side effects, but so do all medications. People die from paracetamol use, no one is saying that’s been hidden and there’s some conspiracy to get us all to take it when it’s killing people…

Another one who hasn't done any research. Find it yourself! As for the Trumpian comment - Very droll.

Another one who hasn't done any research. Find it yourself! As for the Trumpian comment - Very droll.

😂😂😂😂👌 Bingo

Another one who hasn't done any research. Find it yourself!

Classic

If I thought the vaccines generally were a threat to public health which needed to be stopped, I'd be thrusting research & clear explanations in front of anyone who was asking.

Not leaving cryptic clues and hints.

@Samarie123

Is " research " the most de valued word ever.

google rabbit hole = 2+2 =5 = vaccine expert

Dear foliageeverywhere

The links are there. I have provided links and info to people from the start, some get deleted and most people wont bother to read it, my own family included. So if someone really wants to know whats going on they need to do it themselves just like I and many others have.

So if someone really wants to know whats going on = So if someone wants to really wants to know what's going on in my head / computer

No I don't. You crack on with your secret bubble of " what's really going on". And yep 👍🏻 it's all a conspiracy.

The cute thing is, the conspiracy is from you.

Not everything is a conspiracy, can't believe I even have to say that.

You don't deserve anymore of my time. I think I will hide you from now on just for saying 'cute'

You don't deserve anymore of my time. I think I will hide you from now on just for saying 'cute'

😉

In answer to your question OP - I had not seen this site and yes it is of concern and interest to me.

I have had Covid (pre vaccines) and was very unwell with myocarditis as a result. I then went on to have 2 Pfizer doses and got Myocarditis again (in a different area of the heart) as a result of the vaccine (according to my cardiology report post MRI). This is not black and white. In my mind the issue is that we have all been told by the media and our government (yes all including 5yr olds until recently) that we SHOULD have this vaccine because we are risking the lives of others and ourselves if we don't. At no point was it discussed with me that Myocarditis was a side effect of the MRNA based vaccines (I am under 40) so when i got it again I was pretty fucked off to put it mildly. I don't blame anyone specifically, my Drs did what they thought was the right thing based on the information available at the time BUT I do believe we need more peer reviewed studies on this (side effects within different parts of the population) so that individuals can make an informed decision regarding future shots. If I was a pregnant / breastfeeding mum who is now being told 'not to have the vaccine' I would be pretty pissed off that 6 months ago I was heavily pressured into doing so because 'it was safe then' (how can that be?). I think people on this thread think we are talking about a sore arm side effect. OP is talking about sudden death, cardiological life altering problems. YES they can be caused by Covid (i am proof of that) and YES they can be caused by a vaccine also (I am proof of that too!). Having the evidence to hand to work out which option you (as an individual) are comfortable with seems in my mind logical as we move through this pandemic. My personal preference (for what it is worth) would be to be offered an alternative vaccine because I am being told i can't have MRNA now but guess what, we haven't got one!

To be honest on the breast milk study, the claims that’s it’s a “tiny” amount and that it’s fine after 48 hours would leave me fuming had I been a breastfeeding mum at the time (I was not).

we were told there was “no mechanism” that it could end up in breast milk but now we know it does. Is there an impact on these babies? How do we know there hasn’t? Who is following this up? Is anyone checking? There has been a huge campaign to persuade breastfeeding women to vaccinate.

I remain open minded but am gobsmacked about this and the lack of coverage. It’s like the confirmation now it does indeed affect periods but it’s “mild” and “temporary”. Well presumably that’s an average and there are lots of women with longer term issues (you only need to see the comments section on these reports).

but again its “just” women and boobs and periods so what does it matter?

women in the US lost jobs over this and women even in Scotland couldn’t attend big events without it.

to me this is huge. A huge huge deal.

so what else is to come out?

this is why I’m not readily dismissing Maholtra et al.

@Sunflowerkeep

Th mumsnet scientist will keep insisting it's safe so it's safe. Yet so may people dying suddenly and becoming sick, it's long covid innit. Denial is brutal.

Yes, Covid is known to have these effects.

(In a far greater amount than the vaccine, BTW.)

*Yes, Covid is known to have these effects.

(In a far greater amount than the vaccine, BTW.)*

No it is not.

Anyway reported. This is why you can't have discussions.

@sunglassesonthetable

No it is not.
Anyway reported.This is why you can't have discussions.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough - I was saying that Covid leads to deaths, sickness, and long Covid in far greater amounts than the vaccine - ie. the vaccine is extremely safe in comparison to the illness itself.

The first sentence above is silly enough in itself, as the vaccine doesn't leads to long covid, the risk of death is infinitesimal, and side-effects aren't common. When they do happen, though, they are excessively focused upon by anti-vaxxers, no matter what they are.

@Dishh I believe that the Covid vaccine causing long covid is no longer in question? Although the risk can be assumed to be much much lower than that from getting Covid itself.

You reported this? I really think you misunderstood me.

I'm sorry - I've not heard of this?

@Dishh Apologies if I have got it completely the wrong way round. That's the middle of the night for you!

The coronavirus vaccines do not cause long COVID. Long COVID is caused by a coronavirus infection (which it is not possible to get from a vaccine).

There are specific side effects (e.g., carditis, CVSTs) that can be caused by the vaccines, but this is not long COVID.

This is a spectularly frustrating bit of disinformation pushed by HART/FLCCC/Together and their cronies in order to try and blame illness caused by COVID onto vaccinations, as part of their anti-vaccine campaign.

That's ludicrous. Most people with long COVID are people who got COVID severely - bevause they were unvaccinated.

I know several people with long covid, all from COVID before vaccines were available.

Surely anyone with a history or myocarditis will just be offered a non mRNA vaccine like AZ or one of the other ones?

I had the updated Moderna one the other day. Sore arm and bit under the weather for one day, same as with flu vaccine, no other symptoms.

All this "don't want it, don't take it" now. I agree, 100%. But were all the people saying this now also saying this a year ago? Or were they peddling the (now discredited) line that getting jabbed was "for the good of others"? Not surprising there's so much distrust in jabs when the goalposts and alleged motivations have changed so much. I'm a lifelong vaccine enthusiast, and am jabbed myself, but what I've seen in the last year or so has made me seriously think again.

When we had a population naive to SARS-COV-2, getting vaccinated was overwhelmingly the safe option.

"For yourself and others" doesn't just mean helping a load of strangers - it's the idea that even if you were relatively low risk of COVID complications, you weren't low risk to the problems of society being overwhelmed by COVID cases.

It is still true that having too many people isolating, off sick, needing hospital care etc at any one time will impact everyone, no matter if you personal risk of COVID was low.

E.g., if you need emergency surgery but there aren't enough HCPs at work, or not enough beds, or even that delivery of drugs has been delayed because of disruptions to the supply chain.

I just don't get why this still needs explaining 2 years on!

@leafyygreens we were explicitly told that we should get jabbed so that we wouldn't catch and transmit the virus. This was completely misleading. Data are inconsistent with the jabs making any meaningful reduction in transmission. Trust was eroded. Why this still needs pointing out 2 years on, I have no idea.

I worked with some amazing people (in the care sector) who had already had Covid (known to give at least as much protection as the jab at that stage), who were hounded, called selfish and ultimately sacked for not wanting to take a then-experimental injection which turned out to not do what they had been told it would anyway. So, yeah, to anyone who's now not very trusting of forceful jab campaigns - I get it.

This is what trial data showed when the vaccines were working primarily againt the original variant for which they were designed against

It remained the case the vaccines reduced risk of infection, therefore reducing risk of transmission (i.e., you don't have it, you can't pass it on)

People do need to accept that guidance and advice will change - especially in the context of a rapidly evolving pandemic - but this isn't helped by politicians and the media ignoring scienstists to put out definitive firm statements which do not include caution and caveats.