Triple vaxxd so how have you got covid

[Nearlythere28]

I’ve got covid. On day 3 and think I’m doing very well. Been doing the washing and eating usual amounts of food etc . The mother (anti vaxxer) has pissed me off tonight. “Oh well why have u got covid when you’ve had the vaccine”. Have to laugh.

@CoastalWave

4 vaccines and you've had covid 5 times?

Forgive me, but I'd be thinking the exact opposite. Those vaccines have been making you more susceptible to catching it. Probably completely bloody confused your own natural immune system from recognising it and developing natural protection.

Did you miss the part where I said I'm immunosuppressed?

Vaccines don't work as well in immunocompromised people as in the general population. That's one of the reasons we are offered four - so we can get any protection possible, however minimal. It's also the reason we catch any infection going, and why I've caught Covid so many times.

Confusing my immune system, utter twaddle. I inject drugs weekly to do that, to stop my body from basically eating itself. Should I stop doing that, too?

My body is unable to develop 'natural protection'. That's immunosuppression for you. As for the vaccines making me more susceptible to Covid - you're so way off the mark it'd be funny if it wasn't so worrying that people actually believe shit like this.

Forgive me, but I'd be thinking the exact opposite. Those vaccines have been making you more susceptible to catching it. Probably completely bloody confused your own natural immune system from recognising it and developing natural protection.

Is this how we do scientific research now, all based on a random opinion 😂😂😂

@MNHQ lots of vaccine disinformation on this thread.

@BertieBotts

Of course it works both ways but it's not being presented if you're looking up the raw data, is it?

@BertieBotts the @FreedomPodcast1 guy frequently uses raw data in his posts, directly from the Public Health publications.

[quote brid90]@MNHQ lots of vaccine disinformation on this thread.[/quote]
And lots of exceptionally reasonable questioning about why what we were promised did not turn out to be the case.

[quote Ethelfromnumber73]@DesertStorms I write patient leaflets for a living. Immunity isn't a word I'd use for the general public, but protection is. It must be exhausting for everything to be part of a conspiracy [/quote]
But many things related to Covid were indeed considered conspiracies at the start of the pandemic and have since been borne out –vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations being just a couple.

@orzoisorange question away but stop providing disinformation when you admitted you are unvaccinated and clearly promoting your antivax agenda as facts to impressionable users.

@brid90

What disinformation have I provided?

@orzoisorange how about this comment and most of what you have contributed on the thread

“Something that doesn't prevent infection in the majority should not be known as a vaccine. It should have another name.”

[quote brid90]@orzoisorange how about this comment and most of what you have contributed on the thread

“Something that doesn't prevent infection in the majority should not be known as a vaccine. It should have another name.”[/quote]
@brid90 I have been meticulously careful on this thread to state absolute facts, which I have backed up and stand by:

• we were told vaccines would stop transmission
• the vast majority of people who contract Covid do not die of it
• these vaccines do not confer immunity
• case rates are higher in vaccinated people.

The comment you quote above is my opinion, which is based on the fact that these vaccines do not fit the dictionary definition of a vaccine. I have literally just gone to my dictionary and photographed the attached. It says “immunity”; these vaccines don’t do this.

and most of what you have contributed on the thread

You know, I really am tired of opposing opinion being flippantly labelled "misinformation" in some kind of petulant knee-jerk reaction.

@Lilaclavenders

It seems as though people are almost expecting just to get Covid anyway these days, regardless of whether they've been vaxxed or not.

I know, as if vaccines were never available..!

I actually know more people getting ill after being vaccinated than those who are unvaccinated. Just anecdotal but still.

Me too. All sorts of problems...and then some

But many things related to Covid were indeed considered conspiracies at the start of the pandemic and have since been borne out –vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations being just a couple

For a short time at the height of a public health crisis, some venues/workplaces required vaccination/proof of immunity or recent recovery. That's not the same as mandatory vaccines - there have never been government mandated vaccines in the UK.

We were never, ever told vaccines stop transmission, either.

Triple vaxxed here and suffering with Covid. A week in and whilst most of the fluey symptoms have subsided, it hurts to breathe and I'm exhausted. If I have a day when I think I'm OK and stay upright all day, I pay for it the next.

@TypicaIMe

We were never, ever told vaccines stop transmission, either.

@TypicaIMe, yes, we were told this. Please watch this video, which I have already linked to upthread and transcribed some of the text from.

twitter.com/guccibase/status/1488673062962831362

Austria, Greece and Italy, at a minimum, mandated vaccines for certain sections of the population –all over-18s, in Austria's case. Yes, they seem to have backed down now, which is great.

Also worth resharing what Good Morning Britain told millions of viewers last January.

twitter.com/thismorning/status/1346038472566571008

Lots of laws are passed in public health crises which may seem unpalatable in 'normal' times. It's how we get through health crises. Vaccines are no longer mandated even in the countries where they briefly were.

We were told vaccines helped to slow transmission, not stop it entirely. Also worth remembering that this applied to the original strain of covid, for which vaccines were developed. As a virus mutates, so vaccine efficacy may change, that's why we have different flu vaccines every year. I'm not sure why you never understood this. It was explained to me when I went for my first vaccine (a year ago today as it happens) and every one since.

@TypicaIMe

Lots of laws are passed in public health crises which may seem unpalatable in 'normal' times. It's how we get through health crises. Vaccines are no longer mandated even in the countries where they briefly were.

We were told vaccines helped to slow transmission, not stop it entirely. Also worth remembering that this applied to the original strain of covid, for which vaccines were developed. As a virus mutates, so vaccine efficacy may change, that's why we have different flu vaccines every year. I'm not sure why you never understood this. It was explained to me when I went for my first vaccine (a year ago today as it happens) and every one since.

@TypicaIMe did you actually watch the first video?

[quote orzoisorange]Also worth resharing what Good Morning Britain told millions of viewers last January.

twitter.com/thismorning/status/1346038472566571008[/quote]
Most of us don't get our health information from GMB, thankfully.

Although it's worth remembering (again) that that would have been with regards to the original strain which hasn't been dominant since the end of 2020. And does it mean it prevented hospitalisation in otherwise healthy adults? Or everyone, regardless of underlying conditions? If the former, and it was wrt to the original covid strain, do you have any evidence that it didn't do exactly that?

Most of us don't get our health information from GMB, thankfully.

@TypicaIMe so you admit that this was misinformation, that went out to millions of impressionable people?

@orzoisorange No. I'm telling you what u was actually told, by various HCPs. None of whom ever suggested that vaccines stopped the spread completely.

Most people have never believed this to be the case. Most people know that vaccines have only ever reduced spread, not stopped it entirely.

The only people who ever suggest we've been told that vaccines would halt transmission totally are those who seem to have an antivaxx agenda.

Triple vaxed . On my 3rd dose of covid. Last dose in January.

I work on a ward which is continuously closed with covid. Had patients coughing all over me for the past 2 weeks with insufficient PPE.
NOW the manger has advised and ordered visors , Ffp3 and long sleeve gowns . Horse bolted and all that.

But hey ho

@orzoisorange

Most of us don't get our health information from GMB, thankfully.

@TypicaIMe so you admit that this was misinformation, that went out to millions of impressionable people?

Read my comment again.

I said that it was wrt the original strain of covid, and there's no evidence that vaccines did not eliminate hospitalisation in otherwise healthy people who caught that strain. Unfortunately it was superceded by Alpha then Delta in pretty short order.

Even with Delta, just one vaccination provided up to 97% of illness serious enough to require hospital care. So I'd think that 100% of protection against hospitalisation from the strain that the AZ vaccine was designed for doesn't seem too far fetched.

[quote TypicaIMe]@CoastalWave

4 vaccines and you've had covid 5 times?

Forgive me, but I'd be thinking the exact opposite. Those vaccines have been making you more susceptible to catching it. Probably completely bloody confused your own natural immune system from recognising it and developing natural protection.

Did you miss the part where I said I'm immunosuppressed?

Vaccines don't work as well in immunocompromised people as in the general population. That's one of the reasons we are offered four - so we can get any protection possible, however minimal. It's also the reason we catch any infection going, and why I've caught Covid so many times.

Confusing my immune system, utter twaddle. I inject drugs weekly to do that, to stop my body from basically eating itself. Should I stop doing that, too?

My body is unable to develop 'natural protection'. That's immunosuppression for you. As for the vaccines making me more susceptible to Covid - you're so way off the mark it'd be funny if it wasn't so worrying that people actually believe shit like this.[/quote]
I'm immunosuppressed myself actually.

I've refused the vaccines. I've had covid twice. No major issues.

There's enough bloody drugs in my body without adding in a cocktail of stuff that no one knows the long term effects of.

I've took my chances. I'd say I'm having a better time than you 4 vaccines later and 5 Covids later?

As you say, your body is not as great at developing natural protection - so why confuse it further with vaccines that clearly aren't working?! Or are you still convinced that they have worked?

Honestly. You're 'worried' that I believe what I believe. I'm actually astounded that despite massive of evidence to the contrary, you're still there saying how great the vaccines have been for you - bonkers.

And yet lots of people have sailed through it despite not being jabbed at all.

(I have had three jabs btw)

Seems as though there is a lot more than jabs preventing serious illness or otherwise.