Triple vaxxd so how have you got covid

[Nearlythere28]

I’ve got covid. On day 3 and think I’m doing very well. Been doing the washing and eating usual amounts of food etc . The mother (anti vaxxer) has pissed me off tonight. “Oh well why have u got covid when you’ve had the vaccine”. Have to laugh.

It's not even worth a response! I'm also day 3 and feel rotten, despite triple jab. How you're better soon.

*hope not how!

Thank you. Hope you get well soon too

I got it twice. First time double jabbed. 2nd triple jabbed. My bf who is not vaccinated. Well I think she was quite triumphant 😂

I suffered quite badly with covid despite 3 x vax. I can only imagine what I would have suffered if I didn't get them.

I hope your friend doesn't get covid, and if she does she gets it mildly despite the fact that her risk radar is off kilter.

I had covid after being triple jabbed and had very mild symptoms. But I know unvaccinated people who have been the same, hardly any symptoms, some even asymptomatic and yet others who were triple vaccinated who were really ill. It just seems so random how it affects everyone.

I had it after being triple vaxxed. My booster was back in october and i gotbit in February off my son. He was barely ill. Ive been knocked out for nearly 5 weeks and was really quite ill. I reckon i would have been hospitalised without any vaccines as it eventually developed into a nasty chest infection.

I think the protection from the vaccines and booster, which arent even omicron-specific, had simply run out for me from october booster by February. Im glad I had some covid antibodies though, even non omicron specific, as i think id have been really ill otherwise. Ill be first in the queue for this years booster.

I think it's a reasonable question actually.

I've had all my jabs, didn't hesitate, but I did expect they'd protect me a bit better than this. I know several people who've been quite ill despite all their jabs. Not hospitalised ill, but really quite unwell for two weeks , in bed for several days and that's all this variant seems to be doing for most people anyway.

It's not helpful to sneer at people raising a fairly obvious question.

It’s keeping people out of our ICU in high numbers and the medics I work with absolutely think that’s the vaccine not just cos omicron is marketed almost as ‘mild’. It still can cause some nasty illness and post covid issues..

Covid is a weird one on how it affects people individually. I’ve worked with it and vaccinated x 3 yet never had it. So you could say the vaccine worked for me if you look at it that way. Who knows but I’m sure I’ll catch it at some point.

People I work with who had it the second time after vaccination didn’t need as much time off sick and recovered quicker. Anecdotal but true and the infections were 12-18 months apart so not just covid infection antibodies which also wane too.

Vaccines are like seat belts in a car. It is preferable to wear one but it doesn't mean that it will protect everyone regardless of the type of accident you might have.

We all have slightly different immune systems (some of us have allergies and intolerances some don't).

Just like in a car accident where factors such as speed of the vehicles, type of collision, the type of car you drive, weight of the car... same goes for covid. How have you been exposed, for how long, what is your immune system like for covid family of viruses, do you have existing conditions that might make it difficult for you to breathe?

Overall, as a population, vaccines mitigate the effects of the virus, just like overall wearing seat belts give a level of protection.

Is it possible to have a fatal accident with a seat belt? yes. Is it possible for some drivers to walk out of their cars without a scratch after a 200 mph collision? yes.

Similarly some triple vaxxed people can catch covid and be ill some unvaxxed people can be exposed to a high viral load and not feel a thing.

DetailMouse

I think it's a reasonable question actually.

I've had all my jabs, didn't hesitate, but I did expect they'd protect me a bit better than this. I know several people who've been quite ill despite all their jabs. Not hospitalised ill, but really quite unwell for two weeks , in bed for several days and that's all this variant seems to be doing for most people anyway.

It's not helpful to sneer at people raising a fairly obvious question.“

Lots of people still don’t seem to understand, even at this stage. Vaccines were never going to prevent Covid. They were supposed to lessen its effects if you did contract it. Which they do. Be thankful you’re not in hospital.

Omicron doesn't seem to be as mild as we believe in an unvaccinated population. It is causing havoc in Hong Kong

Lots of people still don’t seem to understand, even at this stage. Vaccines were never going to prevent Covid. They were supposed to lessen its effects if you did contract it. Which they do. Be thankful you’re not in hospital.

This was exactly my point. Omicron isn't causing hospitalizations in healthy people, even in those who aren't vaccinated . There may well still be good reasons to have the vaccinations, but sneering at people who ask what they are helps how?

Also caught it 3x jabbed (but caught start of March, booster was in Nov so has worn off)

I caught it from my sister: she caught it grin someone coughing in her face on the street! This is after 2 years of being super careful, masks everywhere etc

Have been more unwell than ever before & finding it difficult to shake off : it’s definitely not been a cold for me

The vaccines are hugely protective- against severe disease that leads to hospitalisation and death.

We had almost our entire hospital filled with patients in the first wave. Now, despite much higher levels of the virus circulating in the population we have one covid ward and a small number of patients in ITU. Almost all in ITU are unvaccinated, we are still seeing healthy 30-40 year olds dying, vaccine refusers every single one.

I had covid in the first wave pre vaccines, very mildly. My mum (not old, previously fit and well) had it and died, horribly, alone. My young colleague died. We had 8 staff die in that wave and none since the vaccine. I still have colleagues contracting it for the first time, after 3 vaccines and feeling very unwell. Almost certainly they would have been in ITU pre vaccination. I work with a patient population who were dying in huge numbers March 2020 to February 2021. They don’t make great responses to vaccines, but post vaccines are mostly staying out of hospital and those admitted are being discharged within a week or so.

The vaccines are making a MASSIVE difference to people surviving and without long term morbidity but they won’t necessarily stop you getting what is behaving like a normal coronavirus- ie very contagious.

Thought it was insensitive comment that was all. She’s very critical of the vaccine which is fine. I’m not critical of her not having it. She is covid and was so poorly for a couple of weeks. I’m on day 4 and feeling ok. Not 100% but I’ve really had worse colds and flu in the past.

I’m thankful that it’s been not too bad for me. It’s such a shame that many are still going into hospital. You would think covid no longer existed. I’ve avoided catching covid for 2 years as I always wore a mask despite the rules being relaxed. Unfortunately caught this from my son who was a little unwell last week.

I wish that the developers had not called the jab a vaccine, because previous vaccines have prevented the vaccinated catching the illness. When we had the smallpox, tb, diphtheria, polio jabs as children, they gave 100% protection. You could sit beside a tuberculosis sufferer coughing their lungs out in perfect safety.

This is complete rubbish. You can look up the effectiveness of those jabs quite freely and none give 100% protection. They give very good protection, which is probably why you never caught the illness, because they reduced numbers in the population sufficiently so that there weren't epidemics of those illnesses going around.

The covid jabs are around 95% effective just from a very cursory google - that might be . When you have an epidemic, 95% is helpful, but means 1 in 20 people are still going to catch it. When you have so much of it going around the general population that means you're still likely to get it but it will take on average 20 exposures before you get ill.

I honestly think we should stop using percentages when talking about probability, because they don't seem very well understood in this context. It's seen as a kind of scale from 1 to 100, where 1% means "incredibly unlikely, almost impossible" and 99% means "almost certain". It doesn't, it means 1 or 99 out of 100. 1:100 chance means that something is unlikely to happen to you if you have one shot at it - for example a raffle with 100 tickets and you have one ticket. But if you enter ten of those raffles and you have five tickets for each of them, then you have fifty chances to win overall and that starts to look quite likely, even though the percentage chance of any one ticket coming out is the same.

It's the same with diseases. If you come into contact with polio once or twice in your lifetime, then the 99% effectiveness of the vaccine (or 95% if you had the oral one, which you probably did if you are over 30) will serve you very well, because you'd only have a 1 in 100 / 1 in 20 chance of catching it. But if you come into contact with covid several times a week, which is likely in the current situation, you'd actually need a vaccine that was 99.9% effective (1:1000 chance of failing) to be as effective as the oral polio vaccine or 99.98% (1:5000 chance of failing) for the jab over the period of just one year.

99%, 99.9% and 99.98% don't "feel" significantly different unless you are very well versed in probability and statistics, even though these are wildly different chances, which is why I don't think we should be using these in the context of public health messaging.

She'd love me OP - quadruple vaxxed and currently very, very positive!

I'm immunosuppressed and this is my fifth time with Covid. All but one of them was after I was at least double vaxxed. What the vaccines have done for me is make sure I don't get as ill as I did the first time I had it, or worse. I know someone my age (40s) with the same underlying condition as me who caught it in March 2020 and didn't make it. That's what the vaccines have helped prevent, thankfully.

@MrsSkylerWhite You say ‘the vaccines were never going to prevent covid’.

That isn’t right. Pfizer claimed that they were going to prevent it.

Pfizer’s submission to the FDA, after which their vaccine was given emergency use authorisation, stated that the vaccine was indicated for ‘active immunisation to prevent covid-19 caused by SARS-cov-2 in individuals’.

The vaccine doesn’t do what the manufacturer claimed it would.

It is wholly reasonable (though uncomfortable) to question why vaccinated people are falling ill.

Clearly the vaccines don't work as well as was hoped for! And they don't last very long either....

I know both vaccinated and unvaccinated people (in my family) and everyone has had covid fairly mildly - at worst one/two days in bed. In fact the unvaccinated (young) adult had it almost completely asymptomatically.

Yes, we certainly were told vaccines would stop the virus and people wouldn't get sick:

I really don't understand why people have either a) forgotten this entirely or b) are trying to convince themselves this was never the case. There's evidence everywhere and governments and the media need to be taken to task.

Meant to link: twitter.com/guccibase/status/1488673062962831362

When the vaccines were launched last year:

"Trial results for two COVID-19 vaccines suggest at least 90% efficacy against symptomatic disease"

And that has clearly not been the case...!