Triple vaxxd so how have you got covid

[Nearlythere28]

I’ve got covid. On day 3 and think I’m doing very well. Been doing the washing and eating usual amounts of food etc . The mother (anti vaxxer) has pissed me off tonight. “Oh well why have u got covid when you’ve had the vaccine”. Have to laugh.

@Ethelfromnumber73

Don't necessarily think it's an antivaxx thing lol. I hate how any skepticism / criticism of the vaccine and 'the science' is automatically labelled anti-vaxx.

The very definition of a vaccine states that it creates immunity.

"a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."

But... shady AF the CDC has gone and changed the definition of the word 'vaccine' in the US so that it no longer mentions "immunity"

"Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce <a class="break-all" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20210826113846/www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">immunityy to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protectionn.”

Of course it works both ways but it's not being presented if you're looking up the raw data, is it?

@WineGetsMeThroughIt
Immunity isn't binary. Having some level of antibodies, or a type of antibodies that only partially neutralise can prevent you from becoming seriously unwell if you catch an illness.

[quote WineGetsMeThroughIt]@Ethelfromnumber73

Don't necessarily think it's an antivaxx thing lol. I hate how any skepticism / criticism of the vaccine and 'the science' is automatically labelled anti-vaxx.

The very definition of a vaccine states that it creates immunity.

"a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."

But... shady AF the CDC has gone and changed the definition of the word 'vaccine' in the US so that it no longer mentions "immunity"

"Before the change, the definition for “vaccination” read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce <a class="break-all" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20210826113846/www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">immunityy to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protectionn.”[/quote]
Concerning.

[quote Ethelfromnumber73]@WineGetsMeThroughIt
Immunity isn't binary. Having some level of antibodies, or a type of antibodies that only partially neutralise can prevent you from becoming seriously unwell if you catch an illness. [/quote]

According to Merriam-Webster

"If you are immune to something, it has no effect on you—for example, you might be immune to a disease or to criticism. If you are immune from something, it cannot reach you—for example, you might be immune from prosecution in a plea bargain."

*no idea why some of that got crossed out when I copied and pasted it from online

2 vaccines and a booster and I have covid too. Just like the cold. And nobody else in the house has caught it off me, even DH.

@AssignedBlobbyAtBirth

Omicron doesn't seem to be as mild as we believe in an unvaccinated population. It is causing havoc in Hong Kong

Is the Hong Kong population unvaccinated?

@DesertStorms I write patient leaflets for a living. Immunity isn't a word I'd use for the general public, but protection is. It must be exhausting for everything to be part of a conspiracy

@WineGetsMeThroughIt riiiight, so I presume if you are cutting and pasting dictionary definitions then you have no actual knowledge of immunology

I’m vaccinated and have gas it twice, very mildly. My (then) unvaccinated kids have both had it and were properly ill in bed.

I officially got COVID a few weeks after my 3rd jab (the joy of having school age kids...)
It was OK. Tired, sore throat, a bit dizzy and nauseous for a day or two. Missed three days at work, felt a bit tired for a few weeks afterwards. Like a bad cold, mostly. Not as bad as a migraine attack.

I also think I got COVID in the first wave (back when you had to be hospitalised to get tested), and I'd never felt so sick in my whole life. Honestly thought I might die. Couldn't get out of bed, couldn't eat, would doze off, have feverish nightmares, then wake up in sweat and in pain. For a whole week. Awful.

I'm glad I got jabbed. Didn't stop COVID entirely, but must have helped take the edge off it (along with the first infection)

South africa showed that omicron is also mild in the unvaccinated. Every single vaccinated and/or boosted member of family has had covid in recent weeks and one person ended up in hospital. Brilliant vaccines 🙄 Unvaccinated me still hasn't had it.

82 year old mum just out of isolation after catching covid. 2 days flu symptoms then just a mild cold. Considering lock down terrified her, she's scared to leave the house and anytime she does she comes in and washes even her house keys. She's washed all her shopping and quarantined mail for 72 hours. She's now pretty p'd off she's lost 2 years of the little time she has left.
FIL caught Covid in ICU - no symptoms at all.

We were never told that the vaccines would stop transmission

We were though. Why do people keep insisting this when it's just not true? Here are a few times we were told this

Pfizer ceo:

"Excited to share that updated analysis from our Phase 3 study with BioNTech also showed that our COVID-19 vaccine was 100% effective in preventing #COVID19 cases in South Africa. 100%!"

"Vaccinated people do not carry the virus – they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC

"When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community," Fauci said. "In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere"

[quote Ethelfromnumber73]@WineGetsMeThroughIt riiiight, so I presume if you are cutting and pasting dictionary definitions then you have no actual knowledge of immunology[/quote]
I never claimed to be. I'm simply stating what the definitions are because people seem to have them mixed up. People on MN always seem skeptical and want sources stated which is why I have copied and pasted.

@TypicaIMe

She'd love me OP - quadruple vaxxed and currently very, very positive!

I'm immunosuppressed and this is my fifth time with Covid. All but one of them was after I was at least double vaxxed. What the vaccines have done for me is make sure I don't get as ill as I did the first time I had it, or worse. I know someone my age (40s) with the same underlying condition as me who caught it in March 2020 and didn't make it. That's what the vaccines have helped prevent, thankfully.

4 vaccines and you've had covid 5 times?

Forgive me, but I'd be thinking the exact opposite. Those vaccines have been making you more susceptible to catching it. Probably completely bloody confused your own natural immune system from recognising it and developing natural protection.

Regardless. Hope you get well soon!

FWIW every single person I know who has had 3+ vaccines has been inundated with either bouts of Covid or has had strokes/heart attacks/lung issues etc etc. I'm just buying that it's a bloody coincidence.

And don't start me on it's seemingly ok now to walk around positive. If it was dangerous 2 years ago, it's still dangerous now.. A doctor friend of mine merrily went to Sainsburys today knowingly positive. Completely irresponsible and a danger to people like yourself especially.

A friend of mine in Australia and her husband had it recently. He is unvaccinated and very overweight and unfit. She has had the two vaccines but no booster. Her adult son unvaccinated. They all had the same symptoms. Mild cold .

I had covid in 2020 flu like, no cough, headaches and lost taste and smell - perfectly fine at home. Now triple jabbed and have covid again now. Mild tight chest and super mild cough, sore throat lasted a day - I’ve had much worse colds.

Triple jabbed here and just tested positive on a routine LFT for work. 7 year old DD is negative. So far only feel like I have a cold so hopefully it won't get any worse than that

I'm triple vax'd & on Day 3 - 1st time I've tested positive. I actually feel awful, my 3 rd jab was over 6 months ago so guess my immunity has worn off . The fist couple of days I had severe headache and joint pains, very spaced out. I keep being lulled into thinking I'm okay to do a few things then wham- it bites back. Currently have awful chest pain, I can't lie on my back. I would actually be really scared if I hadn't been vaccinated.

My close contact who had mild cold symptoms last week and then went on to have a very faint positive over the weekend - her family never caught it so far and I was around her. Currently I have a tender throat but I did a warm salt water gargle and that helped. Still testing negative.
I was anxious having a positive close contact but I am beginning to relax. I think maybe she was only infectious within a short window where the lft picked up a faint line. I think the vaccines are working if there's only a short infectious window whereas before vaccines the infectious window was larger.

@declutteringmymind

To be fair, it was easy to pin all our hopes on the vaccine, and our expectations of it were, in hindsight probably too high.

I do think that immunity wanes, and coronavirus vaccines in the past I think have been difficult due to how unstable the virus is. Which is why we all keeping getting colds, and can't be vaccinated from them. And it's only the new, untested vaccines that have been the most effect ie the mRNA types. We can only test their long term effectiveness by the passage of time.

There is no doubt of their effectiveness though. They have got the virus levels down to a point where life is near normal albeit in a healing phase. With the hindsight that I have now, I would have them again, and will continue to do so unless something nasty crops up.

I came across something before. Apparently the common cold that we know it started in a similar way to covid. It wrecked havoc on our ancestors. We know the common cold today to be mild due to immunity passed down through generations.

Everyone’s definition of “really poorly” is different. I’m currently day 6 of Covid and I’ve definitely been ill but I don’t describe myself as “really poorly” unless I’ve been in hospital. Others will describe themselves as “really poorly” when they’ve got nothing more than a sniffle. It’s hardly scientific examination of the evidence .

Tested postive Monday evening started to get symptoms Monday lunch time I had been daily testing as son had covid last week week hes 10 and wasent illl.
Teenager sat felt but rough sat and Sunday but been OK this week shes still postive today..

Me day 3 feel really rough achey runny nose sore throat cough ect.
The headache is the worst

I'm triple jabbed.

I think initially Hancock did claim they were wonder jabs that had a 90% success rate and implied they block transmission.
But the current jabs were designed against the original varient.

It was school that brought it home I wear masks when out we been so careful but ba2 is as contagious as measles

I also think in the UK we have reactive health care have be near death get an appointment so maybe uk has more underlying conditions which maybe why some react worse than others.
I always wondered that and it's why our death toll has been so high.