Keir Starmer breaking lockdown rules too

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10403057/Tories-accuse-Keir-Starmer-hypocrite-party-row.html

It seems that it’s not just the Conservative party breaking lockdown rules.

Well that just makes them look pathetic doesn't it. He was in Hartlepool, did they think he should go without food and fluids while he was there working? I would imagine Boris has food and fluids when he goes on visits, I bet Rishi had a cream tea when he was in Devon yesterday but that isn't a drunken party is it.

Why was someone filming this in the first place? Seems a bit of an odd thing to do. From outside the building.

I read somewhere that he was at the constituency office of an MP and they had been working all day and had something to eat.

It really is clutching at straws to compare this to a party where someone was sent to the Co-op to buy a suitcase full of booze and then two separate parties merged in the garden.

@Againstmachine

Kier wanted worse restrictions many of the time and has supported the Tories getting their obscene laws through.

It might be not worst he could do, but how about not doing it and go home instead of staying behind and having a beer.

It's about a 5 hr drive isn't it? Do you think he should be there working and do a 5 hr drive so he can get food?

There are staff members eating in the background. Keir is talking to others that are sat at a table.
It looks like an evening meeting so people are having dinner and working.
Keir is drinking from a bottle, could be a J2O bottle.for all I can tell from the picture.

Did he break a child's swing though DID HE ?

Haha, deflecting the focus from the most appalling and disrespectful leader and his Tory chums just doesn't work.

Did he smuggle the beer in in a suitcase?

I see no DJ - unlike this gel...

@Againstmachine

Kier wanted worse restrictions many of the time and has supported the Tories getting their obscene laws through.

It might be not worst he could do, but how about not doing it and go home instead of staying behind and having a beer.

He didn't 'stay behind ', he had dinner and then continued working afterwards.

@Againstmachine

Kier wanted worse restrictions many of the time and has supported the Tories getting their obscene laws through.

It might be not worst he could do, but how about not doing it and go home instead of staying behind and having a beer.

Because he was working. After eating and drinking he went back to working.

@SquishySquirmy

May 2021 is not May 2020. 5 people in an office is not many dozens of people at party after party after party. 1 bottle of beer in the evening is not a suitcase of booze. Drinking a bottle of beer whilst stood near a window has never been illegal.

I agree. The date here is significant. May 2021 it’s plausible a significant percentage of people there were vaccinated and they would have all had access to LFT’s in their roles.

Besides which, it looks like they’re actually working.

@ufucoffee

I don't know anyone who didn't break lockdown rules at least once. I couldn't give a shit what Johnson, Starmer etc have been doing.

Where all these people you know the prime minister?

It's about a 5 hr drive isn't it? Do you think he should be there working and do a 5 hr drive so he can get food?

This business meeting excuse is utter rubbish, Could this meeting not been done over the net.

Oh it probably could.

I don't particularly care but he was pushing for worse restrictions and didn't like the relaxations.

I also think that Kier would have had us under more restrictions if he was in charge and am not a fan but this is ridiculous. It’s not in the same vein at all.

He was on the Hartlepool campaign trail. They were holding meetings and ate dinner in between.

If you honestly cannot see the difference between that and parties in the government base with music etc that were actually created by invites - then there's as much hope for you as their is Boris (hint - none )

It would be like if Boris was accused of armed robbery, and a story emerged that Kier Starmer has an overdue fine on a library book... it would only make the contrast more stark, and make those.defending Boris look desperate!

^This.

Very interesting responses, almost complete support for Keir. What the article shows isn’t anywhere near the same league as the recent revelations. However it seems comparable to “wine and cheese” gathering in no. 10 garden, where staff had come outside for a break during work before going back in to continue. There was widespread condemnation when that was brought to light.

@ufucoffee

I don't know anyone who didn't break lockdown rules at least once. I couldn't give a shit what Johnson, Starmer etc have been doing.

For me it’s that some people were forced to pay large fines for breaking the rules and other people got away with it. Or the other people who didn’t bend or break the rules at all and had totally miserable lives for 18 months.

I don’t lie to myself* and I fully admit I bent the rules on occasion (small things but they were illegal 🤷‍♀️) so I have tried not to judge the government until now but I think it’s gone past that now, or it has for me.

• I’d say most people I know would swear blindly that they followed every rule which is not true and incredibly annoying. Almost all of them took “childcare bubble” to mean that they could just socialise as they wished with their parents for instance as long as DC/ grandchildren were present.

This does seem like clutching at straws. It's normal if you are working well into the night to order in some food and drink and eat it during a break or while you continue to work.

I've never voted Labour in my life btw - I'm looking at the footage from an objective position.

Johnson is so compromised that he'll do whatever is required of him.

www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/revealed-boris-russian-oligarch-and-page-3-model/

Were the drinks brought into the building via a suitcase following a booze-run to Co-Op?
It this the umpteenth incident which has been revealed in recent weeks?
Did party aides laugh and joke about it?

@2X4B523P

Very interesting responses, almost complete support for Keir. What the article shows isn’t anywhere near the same league as the recent revelations. However it seems comparable to “wine and cheese” gathering in no. 10 garden, where staff had come outside for a break during work before going back in to continue. There was widespread condemnation when that was brought to light.

Which is why I think things like the Christmas Quiz were fine. It was mostly zoom other than people that were there anyway and it was at the end of or during the working day. I don’t see any extra risk and I don’t see it as a problem. Most people I know who worked throughout did things to make the day better - Secret Santa, drinks at desks, even the choreographed funny dances that hospital staff were doing. No extra risk and just way to make work bearable. A lot of things that are coming to light about No 10 go FAR beyond that though don’t they? Of the “parties” that have come to light I think about 50% of them are really non stories, like the Keir Starmer video.

Keir Starmer hasn’t called for harsher restrictions either which is another repeated lie that Johnson has spouted at PMQs, and seemingly passed on to the Tory bots on this thread.

This is nothing at all like what those corrupt people and PM at no 10 have been doing. One rule for the Tories and another for us.

I don't really see the big issue with any of them.