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The unvaccinated out socialising.

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Whiskyinajar · 28/12/2021 14:09

I know it's unreasonable to expect everyone to stay at home but I'm about to test as a relatives husband has just tested positive. It's now come out that he is unvaccinated ....not sure why. He's told his wife that he doesn't want the vaccine 🙄Hmm

What is annoying me is that he has socialised all over Christmas with family and my parents, many who are elderly with underlying health problems and who can ill afford to get this virus.

Everyone now has to test .

Thankfully it seems everyone (apart from him) has had both vaccines and a booster. Risks of them catching it are low but not out of the realms of possibility .

Just feeling irritated that he's taken the risk of not being vaccinated and then mixed with everyone.

No point to this post apart from me letting off steam but grrrrr! So cross.

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sosijrol · 28/12/2021 19:59

@orinocosfavoritecake and what about fat people who refuse to exercise and eat healthily taking up a bed for obesity linked illness? Smokers needing treatment? Binge drinkers needing stomachs pumped? They’re all taking up valuable space that could otherwise be used for Ahmed, Susan and Fred for no reason other than selfishness.

User754390 · 28/12/2021 20:01

The unvaccinated children are the worse risk as they run round shouting and are usually unmasked.

Spotthedog91 · 28/12/2021 20:02

@sosijr amen!

orinocosfavoritecake · 28/12/2021 20:03

‘If you imagine a hypothetical scenario in which 100% of the population is double vaccinated, then 100% of people with COVID, and in hospital with COVID, will also have had both jabs. As with deaths, this doesn’t mean the vaccine isn’t working. It just means the vaccine rollout is going very well.

We also need to remember that the vaccine rollout in the UK has systematically targeted people at the highest risk from COVID. Older people and people with health conditions that make them more vulnerable were the first to get vaccinated. Once vaccinated, these people (including me) are at much lower risk from COVID than they would have been otherwise – but they are still at risk.

That means that when we compare people with both vaccinations being hospitalised to those who haven’t had both doses, we aren’t comparing like with like. People with both vaccinations are more likely to have been at greater risk from COVID in the first place. This makes them both more likely to be hospitalised and more likely to have already received both of their vaccine doses.’

www.cebm.ox.ac.uk/news/views/covid-the-reason-cases-are-rising-among-the-double-vaccinated-2013-it2019s-not-because-vaccines-aren2019t-working

orinocosfavoritecake · 28/12/2021 20:05

Also - comparisons with children, alcoholics, smokers, the overweight or even sports people don’t work. It’s hard to lose weight or give up fags. There are many health positives in practicing sport to balance out the risk of i jury. Children just can’t be vaccinated yet.

If you’re choosing not to be vaccinated - it’s your choice and your fault.

Northsoutheastwest76 · 28/12/2021 20:09

I have happily seen an unvaccinated relative. Yes they may have a slightly greater chance of catching it but not significantly.

samyeagar · 28/12/2021 20:10

@orinocosfavoritecake

Also - comparisons with children, alcoholics, smokers, the overweight or even sports people don’t work. It’s hard to lose weight or give up fags. There are many health positives in practicing sport to balance out the risk of i jury. Children just can’t be vaccinated yet.

If you’re choosing not to be vaccinated - it’s your choice and your fault.

And regardless of the why, from the strict public health angle some seem to be coming from, it does not matter why a person is not vaccinated. They are still part of the unvaccinated portion of the population, and are still responsible for what ever things some people attribute to the unvaccinated.
Againstmachine · 28/12/2021 20:10

If you’re choosing not to be vaccinated - it’s your choice and your fault.

Your fault for what exactly that is loaded language.

Spotthedog91 · 28/12/2021 20:13

@orinocosfavoritecake this is ridiculous. I've chosen not to get the vaccine because my friend went partially blind 2 days after her vaccine (31). My husbands colleague (34) had a heart attack 4 days after his vaccine and I know directly threw women (all under 40) who have had their periods fucked up because of their vaccine.

I've made a decision based on the experiences I have seen with my own eyes.

I am a healthy 29 year old women who has never had treatment on the NHS apart from my two children and the occasional prescription.

Having said that... Even if the NHS refused to treat me... I'd still take my changes as a healthy fit 29 year old :-)

Spotthedog91 · 28/12/2021 20:14

Three women **

sosijrol · 28/12/2021 20:17

@orinocosfavoritecake what’s my fault exactly?

And bore off it’s not hard to lose weight or quit fags and I say that as a formerly overweight person and my husband is an ex smoker. It’s about putting your health first and actually not buying fags, moving more and eating foods which actually do you good. Obesity smoking and alcohol cost the nhs far too much in time and money. No one has any interest in what I have and haven’t vaccinated my children for, or what vaccines I have or haven’t had as an adult and it’s none of anyone’s business either - the covid-19 vaccines are no different.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 28/12/2021 20:17

I'm double vaccinated and have had my booster but if in 3 months time we're told we need another one I won't be having it. I may have an annual booster but I'm not having more than that. If that makes me one of 'the unvaccinated' underclass then so be it. If it's more often than an annual booster I'll be living my life in panic from one vaccine to the next thanks to my needle phobia. I asked DH how he feels about it and he's said he'll support me whatever I choose and isn't worried if we can't do certain things.

scottishtablet23 · 28/12/2021 20:20

@User754390

The unvaccinated children are the worse risk as they run round shouting and are usually unmasked.
some people have well and truly lost it, it seems...
User754390 · 28/12/2021 20:20

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NeedAHoliday2021 · 28/12/2021 20:21

In my house 3 out of 5 have caught covid. The one who was the most unwell for longest was my unvaccinated 10yo dd. Dd1 and Dh were vaccinated. Although Dd1 has only had one due to her age and dh caught it 3 days after his booster. I, however, was fully vaccinated with my booster in September (nhs employee) and despite cuddling my covid positive dd3 because I’m her mum and she was poorly, I was negative throughout.

MissMaple82 · 28/12/2021 20:22

For God sake, why do you all have to test? why should he not socialise? Get a grip

sosijrol · 28/12/2021 20:22

@Spotthedog91same here!! I know too many people who’ve become ill post vaccine (within 4 weeks) of their 2nd and booster jabs but of course it’s all “anectdotal”. Of course plenty of people are fine after the vaccines but given my personal circumstances it’s not worth the risk for me. I look after myself as best I can and I didn’t even go to the doctors surgery in 30 years til I got pregnant and that was just to see the midwife!

NeedAHoliday2021 · 28/12/2021 20:22

@User754390 my dm had shingles through first lockdown, caused by stress. Unlikely the vaccine caused that.

Spotthedog91 · 28/12/2021 20:24

@user754390 I bet you've been told it couldn't possibly be down to the vaccine lol

User754390 · 28/12/2021 20:26

Shingles can be a side effect of the vaccine. I doubt it was stress as I have nothing to be stressed about

Spotthedog91 · 28/12/2021 20:26

@sosijrol exactly. Of course people will say it couldn't possibly be linked (eye roll).

sosijrol · 28/12/2021 20:27

[quote NeedAHoliday2021]@User754390 my dm had shingles through first lockdown, caused by stress. Unlikely the vaccine caused that.[/quote]
Actually there’s been many self reports of shingles post vaccination.

User754390 · 28/12/2021 20:27

Well apart from the shouty unvaccinated children who cross my path

sosijrol · 28/12/2021 20:34

@User754390

Well apart from the shouty unvaccinated children who cross my path
🤣🤣
CouldThisReallyBe · 28/12/2021 20:35

As I understand it the unvaccinated are only a risk to themselves.

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