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The unvaccinated out socialising.

356 replies

Whiskyinajar · 28/12/2021 14:09

I know it's unreasonable to expect everyone to stay at home but I'm about to test as a relatives husband has just tested positive. It's now come out that he is unvaccinated ....not sure why. He's told his wife that he doesn't want the vaccine 🙄Hmm

What is annoying me is that he has socialised all over Christmas with family and my parents, many who are elderly with underlying health problems and who can ill afford to get this virus.

Everyone now has to test .

Thankfully it seems everyone (apart from him) has had both vaccines and a booster. Risks of them catching it are low but not out of the realms of possibility .

Just feeling irritated that he's taken the risk of not being vaccinated and then mixed with everyone.

No point to this post apart from me letting off steam but grrrrr! So cross.

OP posts:
samyeagar · 28/12/2021 16:15

@Whiskyinajar

Blimey I touched some nerves here didn't I?

Time to get real folks..I have the right to an opinion same as you.

If you've refused vaccination you are beyond selfish

As long as elderly relatives don't get it from him and die as a result I am good.

I still think he is bloody selfish thought

Well aware that vaccinated people get it too...that's why I don't want unvaccinated idiots hanging round my vulnerable relatives.

You surely include unvaccinated children in this as well right?
flipflop76 · 28/12/2021 16:16

@Spotthedog91

I wish we lived in a society where we weren't judged my our vaccine status.

I am not anti vax. I have chose not to get the covid vaccine, but my children are vaccinated against MMR etc.

I have chosen not to get this vaccine. I fully respect other people's decision to get the vaccine. Please respect my choice as I do yours. We will be in a better place in society if we all did this.

Yes!!!

Waxonwaxoff0 · 28/12/2021 16:17

I will assume then that you don't have unvaccinated children visiting your vulnerable relatives.

Inthesameboatatmo · 28/12/2021 16:17

So being unvaccinated now equates to practically a lepar and social pariah!!!
The blaming of everyone vaccinated or not needs to stop it's ridiculous.

littlepeas · 28/12/2021 16:19

Most people will have made their choice to be vaccinated or not selfishly, it’s just much easier to argue that you care about the greater good if you are vaccinated…

People are vaccinated to protect themselves, and vulnerable loved ones if they have them.

Inthesameboatatmo · 28/12/2021 16:20

@whiskeyinajar.
People are not selfish for having bodily autonomy, it's you that needs to get a life and stop blaming others because they don't fit you're way of thinking.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 28/12/2021 16:27

@littlepeas

Most people will have made their choice to be vaccinated or not selfishly, it’s just much easier to argue that you care about the greater good if you are vaccinated…

People are vaccinated to protect themselves, and vulnerable loved ones if they have them.

I'm not. I'm vaccinated to protect wider society. I don't believe, as a healthy 31 year old, that I needed a vaccine to protect me personally. But I don't care who isn't vaccinated.
samyeagar · 28/12/2021 16:28

@Waxonwaxoff0

I will assume then that you don't have unvaccinated children visiting your vulnerable relatives.
That is the thing that just astounds me about those wo most loudly pontificate about the "selfish unvaccinated" If they truly were purely virtuous about public health and public safety, without any motivation to "other" people, then they would be just a loudly declaring that the people who allow their children in public, or around others, need to be stopped, and children must be kept away from the public...because they are the only group of people we all know for certain, without even having to ask, are unvaccinated.
BFPDec21 · 28/12/2021 16:43

I dropped presents to two households on one single day and I (being double vaccinated and boosted) still got covid as did a family member in the same position.

It will mean they can pass it on but they may get it worse being unvaccinated.

CoopsMalloops · 28/12/2021 16:46

Hi OP,

This week at a gathering, about 10 vaccinated people, a few who had just received their boosters, havw all tested positive and now my sister is + and possibly me too now.

I’m sorry to shock you, please, sit down, but I feel someone should break it to you that’s vaccinated people are still spreading covid.

I’m amazed at these moronic threads still being started. Really - get a clue.

Wellbythebloodyhell · 28/12/2021 16:51

Another day, another wind up thread Hmm
These are getting quite predictable and boring now, come on MN, be creative and spice them up a bit

Fairylights25 · 28/12/2021 16:59

The unvaccinated has horrible over tones of the great unwashed and other unpleasant connections. Please take care of the language you use.

Yes it is not ideal that he choose not to have the vaccines, but it is now his risk and concern not yours, the vaccines do not protect against spread only severe disease.

RobinPenguins · 28/12/2021 17:03

@TinyTroubleMaker

To be fair, contracting covid almost definitely gives you better immunity than any number of vaccines

The unvaccinated are testing positive for Omicron at considerable lower rates than the vaccinated - because they are much more likely to have had a previous infection which is more protective against omicron than the vaccine

^^ this and this

Not sure this is true tbh. Cases absolutely exploded in areas of South Africa which had high immunity from previous infection but low immunity from vaccination.
BFPDec21 · 28/12/2021 17:04

To add, I got it from someone vaccinated too.

savagebaggagemaster · 28/12/2021 17:06

@sirfredfredgeorge

The unvaccinated are testing positive for Omicron at considerable lower rates than the vaccinated - because they are much more likely to have had a previous infection which is more protective against omicron than the vaccine.

So statistically, you are much safer meeting an unvaccinated person than a vaccinated.

Where is your evidence for this?
Uniforn · 28/12/2021 17:07

@LaBellina

The unvaccinated sounds like a group of people from a zombie apocalypse movie
Probably the same number of brain cells!
anonanonanon123 · 28/12/2021 17:07

My double vaxxed DP is positive today. I'm unvaxxed and pregnant and negative. So him and his vaccine have been the ones to catch it and he'll probably give it to me as we're living under the same roof but he's the one that's picked it up and brought it home. Not unvaxxed me.

StillNo · 28/12/2021 17:08

This thread title is terrifying.

Can you believe we’ve come to this?

RobinPenguins · 28/12/2021 17:08

@anonanonanon123

My double vaxxed DP is positive today. I'm unvaxxed and pregnant and negative. So him and his vaccine have been the ones to catch it and he'll probably give it to me as we're living under the same roof but he's the one that's picked it up and brought it home. Not unvaxxed me.
I hope you remain negative, for your baby’s sake. He may be the one who has caught covid but you’re the one putting the baby at risk by not being vaccinated.
userxx · 28/12/2021 17:09

@Whiskyinajar

And yes I am pissed off as he mixed with the family, with a "bit of a cold" knowing he was unvaccinated. Forgive me for being annoyed about that.

And some of you need to learn to read before saying I am suggesting everyone should stay home. Do some reading about how viruses spread or have talk to some of the bereaved.

Sadly some of you won't get any understanding unless it affects you. ...and affects you badly.

I'd quite like to avoid that for my family thanks,

Out of this thread now and won't be responding anymore.

You started this nonsense in the first place. You clearly don't like being told you're wrong and to get a fucking grip.

BluebellsGreenbells · 28/12/2021 17:10

I really can’t get worked up about the unvaccinated, I’m triple jabbed and can still catch and spread it, if someone doesn’t get the jabs I think it’s only their own health they are putting at risk

Just to add, also their chance of serious illness and taking up hospital beds, which lead to restrictions for everybody!

So yes you should be bothered by those not willing to have a vaccine.

Charles11 · 28/12/2021 17:18

You do realise that there’s another booster soon because the vaccines wane very quickly and at quite a few points there’s probably not any difference between the vaccinated and not vaccinated for transmissibility.

sirfredfredgeorge · 28/12/2021 17:20

@savagebaggagemaster

ONS - www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/adhocs/14107coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyukcharacteristicsrelatedtohavinganomicroncompatibleresultinthosewhotestpositiveforcovid19

If you have omicron, you're over twice as likely to be vaccinated than unvaccinated.

PurpleDaisies · 28/12/2021 17:20

@Charles11

You do realise that there’s another booster soon because the vaccines wane very quickly and at quite a few points there’s probably not any difference between the vaccinated and not vaccinated for transmissibility.
That’s not confirmed and I doubt it will be for every adult in the way this one was.
ichundich · 28/12/2021 17:23

I'm not sure why people who haven't had 2 jabs and a booster out of choice are up in arms about being called 'the unvaccinated'? How else would you like people to refer to you?