Why does it feel like Wuhan have got off lightly

thefourgp · 16/12/2021 21:22

They’ll never admit it. There’s no way it didn’t accidentally come out of the Wuhan lab who were conducting covid experiments. China would be massively financially impacted if they did. The whole world would sue them, put even stricter sanctions into place, cut aid etc.

UltraVividLament · 16/12/2021 21:24

Even if that were true, there is no way the Chinese govt would admit it or pay anyone anything.

Wuhan as a city isn't responsible for how other countries have handled covid. They had their share of deaths, hospitalisation and lockdowns. I wouldn't want to experience that under a controlling regime like the Chinese govt.

Darkpheonix · 16/12/2021 21:26

@Talsaml

No mention of how Covid started anymore. reckon it was made in a lab and the experiment went wrong. Why won’t they just admit it. Not that anyone can do anything now but so many people have died. All those lost love ones. Relatives, people that have had Covid and long Covid suffers should get compensation I say

Let's say this is correct and it was lab created and something went wrong.

You answered your own question in your op

'Why won't they just admit it?'

'They should need to compensate everyone'

Delatron · 16/12/2021 21:26

Yes noticed some reports hidden away on the news pages. Nowhere near the headlines. Not really been discussed. Very perplexing

SpiderinaWingMirror · 16/12/2021 21:33

How would that work?

SequinsandStiIettos · 16/12/2021 21:35

No mention of how Covid started anymore
It's literally just been in the news after Harvard scientist Dr Alina Chan's comments to the Science and Technology Select Committee. She basically said it was likely China genetically engineered it then covered it up.

Caramellatteplease · 16/12/2021 21:36

China has bigger guns, metaphorically and literally.

If they say they didnt do it, who realistically can do anything about it?

BHX3000 · 16/12/2021 21:39

@Talsaml

No mention of how Covid started anymore. reckon it was made in a lab and the experiment went wrong. Why won’t they just admit it. Not that anyone can do anything now but so many people have died. All those lost love ones. Relatives, people that have had Covid and long Covid suffers should get compensation I say

Compensation from who? What’s the criteria for this compensation to be awarded?

I haven’t had Covid, or a close relative die. But I had the worst ‘flare up’ of my chronic depression due to all the restrictions, couldn’t get out of bed for weeks. Do I get compensation as well? How do I prove all of this?

Tealightsandd · 16/12/2021 21:39

At the end of the day, whatever China did or didn't do wrt raising the alarm sooner, it was down to every other country to respond effectively to the novel airborne virus... Or not.

We didn't have to suffer as badly as we did. Still are suffering. We could have taken similar infection control measures as did Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and actually yes China too. Saving lives, health - and economy.

The whole world could and should have temporarily closed borders except to genuinely essential travel (with real quarantine where needed). Had that happened, there would never have been a pandemic.

We can't control what China did or didn't say. But we could choose how to respond once the threat was known. Temporary pandemic travel restrictions - with cases already here tracked and isolated, and Bob's your uncle. No pandemic.

All we can do is (hopefully) learn the lesson for the next would be pandemic (perhaps that one will be stopped in its tracks).

(Btw the Wuhan Institute of Virology bat coronavirus lab research was/is internationally funded).

Original poster

Talsaml · 16/12/2021 21:49

BHX3000- yeh of course. Why not. We’ve all been affected

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gofg · 16/12/2021 21:54

I agree with @Tealightsandd. Maybe look a bit closer to home when apportioning blame for all the deaths and illness.

St0rmTr00per · 16/12/2021 21:58

Grab your pitchforks and your passports ladies

Branleuse · 16/12/2021 22:00

Why would they keep talking about Wuhan now?

BHX3000 · 16/12/2021 22:01

@Talsaml

BHX3000- yeh of course. Why not. We’ve all been affected

So everybody gets compensation then? You didn’t answer my first question - who gives this compensation? ‘Wuhan’ isn’t someone so please be specific and explain how their resources would cover compensation for 7 billion+ people.

If ‘you say’ then you need to suggest some specifics.

Beachcomber · 16/12/2021 22:11

Of course we should care about this and demand an explanation. And it's not just Wuhan and China that are involved. Apparently the US are too which may go some way to explaining why the subject has been squashed.

It fucking matters how this thing started so that we can prevent it happening again.

I just posted this on another thread:

Meanwhile there are news reports coming out (again) in mainstream publications about how the origins of the covid19 pandemic are in all likelihood due to not only a lab leak and human error but also dangerous gain of function research.

I think we should be angry with the organisations and people that have allowed this to happen. The reason our hospitals are overwhelmed with covid is not because people decline a vaccine that they have every right to be nervous of but because covid19 happened in the first place.

I hope as this terrible story unfolds that citizens will come together and demand explanations and assurances that such a thing will never be allowed to happen again. Fighting each other is a distraction from the real fight.

Multiple mainstream press sources are talking about this.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/15/wuhan-lab-leak-now-likely-origin-covid-mps-told/

metro.co.uk/2021/12/15/covid-was-likely-to-have-been-leaked-from-wuhan-lab-say-researchers-15776062/

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/wuhan-lab-leak-more-likely-origin-of-covid-19-uk-parliament-panel-told/articleshow/88310093.cms

www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-leak-more-likely-origin-of-covid-19-says-researcher-2653379

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/covid-possibly-engineered-virus-probably-22472495

Whatisthisworld · 16/12/2021 22:23

Was it deliberate by China as people say?

RiverSkater · 16/12/2021 22:26

They are doing a roaring trade in the Tests, which is ironic.

Delatron · 16/12/2021 22:27

Good post @Beachcomber

Of course it matters how this started. Look at the deaths and carnage it has caused.

Tealightsandd · 16/12/2021 22:28

I wonder the same though OP. If it was (as is thought likely by many experts) an accidental lab leak, I don't know why they don't just admit it. Pride, I guess?

doublemonkey · 16/12/2021 22:28

The National Institute of Health (Dr Fauci) gave grant money to Peter Dazsek's Eco Health Alliance to conduct gain of function experiments on bat corona viri in the Wuhan Lab. This is all a matter of record and has been admitted to.

If the mainstream media had the balls to a- stop lying and b- just cover the story, we would get accountability.

covidhater · 16/12/2021 22:30

@Tealightsandd

At the end of the day, whatever China did or didn't do wrt raising the alarm sooner, it was down to every other country to respond effectively to the novel airborne virus... Or not.

We didn't have to suffer as badly as we did. Still are suffering. We could have taken similar infection control measures as did Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and actually yes China too. Saving lives, health - and economy.

The whole world could and should have temporarily closed borders except to genuinely essential travel (with real quarantine where needed). Had that happened, there would never have been a pandemic.

We can't control what China did or didn't say. But we could choose how to respond once the threat was known. Temporary pandemic travel restrictions - with cases already here tracked and isolated, and Bob's your uncle. No pandemic.

All we can do is (hopefully) learn the lesson for the next would be pandemic (perhaps that one will be stopped in its tracks).

(Btw the Wuhan Institute of Virology bat coronavirus lab research was/is internationally funded).

Complete crap We would not be in this state if they hadn't been messing about with virus !

Booklover3 · 16/12/2021 22:31

YANBU

Beachcomber · 16/12/2021 22:34

@doublemonkey

The National Institute of Health (Dr Fauci) gave grant money to Peter Dazsek's Eco Health Alliance to conduct gain of function experiments on bat corona viri in the Wuhan Lab. This is all a matter of record and has been admitted to.

If the mainstream media had the balls to a- stop lying and b- just cover the story, we would get accountability.

It would seem that some very high up people and powerful countries are in this up to their necks.

Meanwhile they are very happy that we are all distracted tearing strips off each other over mask wearing / lockdowns / vaccines.

Tealightsandd · 16/12/2021 22:38

assurances that such a thing will never be allowed to happen again.

The only way to do that - and I hope next time this happens - is swift proactive preventative action.

The next would-be pandemic might come from a lab, it could have a more natural origin. I say 'would-be' because we have the means and technology to never let another pandemic happen.

Every country in the world closes borders for a temporary period (with real quarantine where necessary for essential travel) plus isolates cases already out there - and then no pandemic happens.

It's rare and difficult to have worldwide cooperation on a policy, but it has happened. The war on drugs is truly global.

ginnig · 16/12/2021 22:39

I heard on the radio that it was looking more likely to be from a lab but then didn't see any headlines today so assumed I'd misheard.