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Why is it acceptable to be angry with people who don’t want the vaccine?

495 replies

Wuishj · 14/12/2021 13:38

I’ve had both. I didn’t want them initially but after looking into it more, I decided to have them and think it’s the right thing.

But I would never be angry, rude, dismissive of someone who didn’t want the vaccine. I’m finding these discussions very draining - they happen at work, among friends, on the news. Whatever happened to allowing people to decide for themselves as to whether they want to book an appointment and have a needle injected into them?

Honestly, I don’t think it’s the right thing not to have the vaccine but i am astonished at how narrow minded people are that they cannot respect the decision of other people. I think if everyone backed off from blaming other people then they might find that more people DID end up having the vaccine.

Rant over!

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lockdownhasbrokenme · 14/12/2021 20:59

XenoBitch
Current Covid Pass rules

Why is it acceptable to be angry with people who don’t want the vaccine?
Why is it acceptable to be angry with people who don’t want the vaccine?
Why is it acceptable to be angry with people who don’t want the vaccine?
XenoBitch · 14/12/2021 21:01

@lockdownhasbrokenme

XenoBitch Current Covid Pass rules
Negative LFT is on there, which is good. I would rather everyone attending an event had to prove a negative result, vaccinated included. I don't think it is right that you don't have to prove this if fully jabbed. Seems dangerous to me.
lockdownhasbrokenme · 14/12/2021 21:10

XenoBitch
Apart from the poor souls in the Isle of Man or if you want to travel abroad and of course dependent upon Boris's current Plan du jour. Personally I have no problem lft testing before events or casual meet ups.
Unfortunately there are the unscrupulous people who are faking covid passes for money.

MajorCarolDanvers · 14/12/2021 21:11

Because if the affect it has on the rest of the country.

It's totally antisocial

BringBackThinEyebrows · 14/12/2021 21:13

Same, I'd rather reliable testing was carried out for entry to venues etc. My covid pass on my NHS app expires in January (I wont be getting further jabs). I haven't used it and probably won't have the opportunity to.

PurpleDaisies · 14/12/2021 21:13

@BringBackThinEyebrows

Same, I'd rather reliable testing was carried out for entry to venues etc. My covid pass on my NHS app expires in January (I wont be getting further jabs). I haven't used it and probably won't have the opportunity to.
Unless they change the criteria to include a booster, you just log in and it generates a new one lasting a month.
hamstersarse · 14/12/2021 21:15

@MajorCarolDanvers

Because if the affect it has on the rest of the country.

It's totally antisocial

What impact does it actually have on you if someone is not vaccinated?

The only reason to be vaccinated, which is loud and clear now, is for your own health.

BringBackThinEyebrows · 14/12/2021 21:16

@PurpleDaisies ah thanks, I wasn't aware of that.

Refrosty · 14/12/2021 21:17

I don't get angry at unvaccinated people, but I do think there's an element of 'i want to have my cake and eat it'

We'd be absolutely foolish to disregard all the good that the vaccines have done for this pandemic. This week, somebody complained to me that they can't go on their holiday because they are unvaccinated... well, sorry I don't believe you've earned that right to travel, considering that if we all decided to remain unvaccinated travel would be unlikely for everybody, not to mention the hospital/death rates we'd still be observing.

I'd like to empathise with them, but why should I? Own your choices.

AlfonsoTheUnrepentant · 14/12/2021 21:19

@Refrosty

I don't get angry at unvaccinated people, but I do think there's an element of 'i want to have my cake and eat it'

We'd be absolutely foolish to disregard all the good that the vaccines have done for this pandemic. This week, somebody complained to me that they can't go on their holiday because they are unvaccinated... well, sorry I don't believe you've earned that right to travel, considering that if we all decided to remain unvaccinated travel would be unlikely for everybody, not to mention the hospital/death rates we'd still be observing.

I'd like to empathise with them, but why should I? Own your choices.

Agreed.
Angelton · 14/12/2021 21:19

It’s selfish imo. Same as people during the war who refused to go and fight. They’re not doing their bit.

lockdownhasbrokenme · 14/12/2021 21:23

@BringBackThinEyebrows

Same, I'd rather reliable testing was carried out for entry to venues etc. My covid pass on my NHS app expires in January (I wont be getting further jabs). I haven't used it and probably won't have the opportunity to.
Sadly here is where self testing falls down a negative lft is only as good as the honesty of the person entering it into the website. It only scans the test number not the whole test and you choose whether to say your test is negative or positive no checks are carried out.
XenoBitch · 14/12/2021 21:24

@Angelton

It’s selfish imo. Same as people during the war who refused to go and fight. They’re not doing their bit.
Big difference between having a medical procedure and being made to kill other people. So many apples and oranges on MN tonight.. I could start a market stall.
Postdatedpandemic · 14/12/2021 21:25

Vaccines in the UK are voluntary.
Measles is no longer an eradicated disease in the UK because of this freedom.

I'd like to persuade people to be vaxxed, but they don't care.
From an anthropological view this is Darwinism in action. The fittest will survive.

We were very luck to live in a first world country with vaccination and free at the point of use health care. It wasn't going to last for ever, some people would like it to finish sooner, if a position is ingrained - it won't be easily changed. We need to accept that health care in this country will change to fit what people want. A rather vocal lump of people want no vaccination, so that is what we will eventually get. Thank you

XenoBitch · 14/12/2021 21:26

Sadly here is where self testing falls down a negative lft is only as good as the honesty of the person entering it into the website. It only scans the test number not the whole test and you choose whether to say your test is negative or positive no checks are carried out

That is true, but you also have vaccinated people with Covid symptoms who are in denial they have Covid because they think it is impossible due to being vaccinated.

Angelton · 14/12/2021 21:27

Big difference between having a medical procedure and being made to kill other people
Yes, getting a jab is way easier. And people still won’t do it.

Ohnomoreno · 14/12/2021 21:29

OTOH, your body, your choice, and all these arguments about how you're protecting others don't make a great deal of sense given the facts. OTOH, hmm, well, I'm starting to think maybe mandatory vaccination would at least stop this ridiculous back and forth, we could all pretend the vaccines fixed it and ignore infections like we previously did for flu.
Don't know what sort of "vaxxer" that makes me.

XenoBitch · 14/12/2021 21:29

@Angelton

Big difference between having a medical procedure and being made to kill other people Yes, getting a jab is way easier. And people still won’t do it.
And as several posters have said, getting a jab is not easy at all.
AlfonsoTheUnrepentant · 14/12/2021 21:29

@Angelton

Big difference between having a medical procedure and being made to kill other people Yes, getting a jab is way easier. And people still won’t do it.
Or risk being killed or developing PTSD. And being away from home from months - if not years at a time. Seeing friends killed in front of you, not knowing if your home back in the UK had been blown up.

Really small potatoes compared to getting an injection.

drawhander · 14/12/2021 21:29

Im finding the opposite. Im fed up of people who don't want the vaccine going on about how everyone around is complicit in some kind of evil control

Scottishskifun · 14/12/2021 21:29

I don't care if people choose not to be vaccinated if it's a non medical reason but just don't moan about how everything is unfair or they can't go on their holiday they want!

I was very unwell with covid before vaccination (34 so not old) so to me it's a no brainer to not want to be that ill again. If people wish to play Russian roulette and not reduce risk of serious illness then so be it. Just don't complain about it when they had the opportunity to protect themselves.

AlfonsoTheUnrepentant · 14/12/2021 21:31

@drawhander

Im finding the opposite. Im fed up of people who don't want the vaccine going on about how everyone around is complicit in some kind of evil control
Oh, I don't know about that. Bill Gates has informed me through my newly-injected chip that there is no sort of control at all. Nope. None.
Postdatedpandemic · 14/12/2021 21:34

The un-vaxxed have volunteered to be the control group so we can see how effective the vaccine is.
Thank you, you have saved ethics committees at lot of work.

AlfonsoTheUnrepentant · 14/12/2021 21:35

@Postdatedpandemic

The un-vaxxed have volunteered to be the control group so we can see how effective the vaccine is. Thank you, you have saved ethics committees at lot of work.
While causing the NHS quite a bit of work. Not sure that it's a great trade-off.
lockdownhasbrokenme · 14/12/2021 21:37

@Postdatedpandemic

The un-vaxxed have volunteered to be the control group so we can see how effective the vaccine is. Thank you, you have saved ethics committees at lot of work.
Hardly fair to lump in those who genuinely can't have the vaccine with the conspiracy theory crowd.